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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 10:46:52 GMT
i find it laughable that people say mildenhall should have saved the 3rd goal as he clearly had no chance at all of stopping it.
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Aug 8, 2016 12:05:10 GMT
Post by ismellgass on Aug 8, 2016 12:05:10 GMT
I think he could of done better on the 2nd and 3rd like most people think. I also remember a shot from distance early in the second half, that went wide, but had him beat all day long. His distribution was shocking. Lost count of the amount of times he put the ball out for a throw in....
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Aug 8, 2016 12:08:31 GMT
Post by Topper Gas on Aug 8, 2016 12:08:31 GMT
This thread is shocking. If the manager can find a better keeper then Mildenhall will have to fight for place just as he did before, until then get behind the guy who played a big part in us going up last year. Football is a team game, and all three goals yesterday were conceded by the team. Accept last season Mildy wasn't given a chance to fight for his place, Chapman was parachuted straight into the first team, then Nicholls was parachuted into the first team and then when Nicholls left an unfit Puddy was given the role, only after Puddy brokedown less than 47 minutes into his comeback was Mildy used. To his credit as an absolute pro he'd kept himself ready for that eventuality and didn't let anyone down for the rest of the season. Having said all that I believe we need another keeper in that can genuinely challenge for the first team spot. And challenge is the important word, any new keeper should be offered the chance to make the spot his own but not promised that spot. Pretty sure like this season he started off in goal but gave away some cheap goals so Chappers was brought in, fortunately for SM he got his place backed and then was able to prove he was still up to the task. Fair play to SM & also DC for being big enough to accept SM was still good enough. Until we've seen Puddy actually play a full game none of us really know if he's up to the task or not, I assume DC must think he is as he offered him a contract for this season, as I'm sure like Parkes & Fallon he could have moved him on if he had wanted to given how few games he played last season.
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Aug 8, 2016 12:36:37 GMT
Post by stuart1974 on Aug 8, 2016 12:36:37 GMT
Accept last season Mildy wasn't given a chance to fight for his place, Chapman was parachuted straight into the first team, then Nicholls was parachuted into the first team and then when Nicholls left an unfit Puddy was given the role, only after Puddy brokedown less than 47 minutes into his comeback was Mildy used. To his credit as an absolute pro he'd kept himself ready for that eventuality and didn't let anyone down for the rest of the season. Having said all that I believe we need another keeper in that can genuinely challenge for the first team spot. And challenge is the important word, any new keeper should be offered the chance to make the spot his own but not promised that spot. Pretty sure like this season he started off in goal but gave away some cheap goals so Chappers was brought in, fortunately for SM he got his place backed and then was able to prove he was still up to the task. Fair play to SM & also DC for being big enough to accept SM was still good enough. Until we've seen Puddy actually play a full game none of us really know if he's up to the task or not, I assume DC must think he is as he offered him a contract for this season, as I'm sure like Parkes & Fallon he could have moved him on if he had wanted to given how few games he played last season. A quick tally has Mildi playing two league and cup games shipping 3 goals at the start of 2015/16, then Chapman 4 games with 2 clean sheets and 2 goals, Nicholls 18 games with 5 clean sheets and 21 goals, Puddy half a game and no goals, finally Mildi again 24 and a half games with 8 clean sheets and 22 goals.
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Post by fanboy on Aug 8, 2016 13:50:44 GMT
i find it laughable that people say mildenhall should have saved the 3rd goal as he clearly had no chance at all of stopping it. I can't for the life of me see why. It was about 15 centimetres from him. He moved incredibly slowly to get down to it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 13:52:15 GMT
Why is Mildy getting the brunt of this when his defence woefully let him down for each of the 3 goals?
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Aug 8, 2016 15:47:53 GMT
Post by CrispPusher on Aug 8, 2016 15:47:53 GMT
I've no doubt Puddy would've been pilloried for conceding the last two goals, Mildenhall is tall and popular but for the second season running has returned from the close season looking slow and off the pace(having watched majority of pre-season). With our options in goal limited to a keeper who only managed 45 minutes over the entire previous season and a 38 year old, an additional goalkeeper should be a priority irrespective of your opinion on the current ability of Steve Mildenhall.
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Aug 8, 2016 16:53:00 GMT
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Post by youmadethatup on Aug 8, 2016 16:53:00 GMT
Why is Mildy getting the brunt of this when his defence woefully let him down for each of the 3 goals? A keeper is to blame......if..... he is in totally the wrong position ,fumbled needlessly,gave away possession through a poor kick or punch. If the keeper gets the right positioning ,does all the right things but is unable to react quite quick enough then he is not to blame for the goal but is open to criticism for his slow reaction. It's not an attack on the keeper being a good player just on reaction errors in one game. The trouble with threads like this is the more comments made the more it appears people are unhappy ,when I don't think any or many BRFC fans will be angry if Mildy is in goal for the next few games.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 8, 2016 17:18:15 GMT
i find it laughable that people say mildenhall should have saved the 3rd goal as he clearly had no chance at all of stopping it. I can't for the life of me see why. It was about 15 centimetres from him. He moved incredibly slowly to get down to it. Using your logic if a goalie chooses to go the right way for a penalty he should save it every time? Unless the TV highlights are reflecting something different than what happen at the game, you do have to wonder what planet some of our posters are living on. Mildenhall may go on to show he's past it this season but for the life me I can't see how you can judge him on the goals he conceded on Saturday.
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 8, 2016 18:47:35 GMT
Don't see the midfielders getting slated for not making a challenge, they were allowed too much room.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 8, 2016 19:42:47 GMT
It is very easy to sit and watch a replay of a goal and say he should have done this or that. Goalkeeping is not only dependent on the place the ball passes you but on the speed it was hit,whether the shot was taken early,the position your feet are in at the time and whether you are moving forward or sideways at the time to get the angle right. On both goals the player had far too long to make his mind up what he was going to do. All three goals were rank poor defending first and foremost and two of them due to a lack of midfielders and the way the defence is set up. Looks very much to me like Mildenhall is going to be the scapegoat this season. Saturday could just as easily be blamed on DC for wrong team selection, poor substitutions and failure to get quality players in for the first game or on the midfielders for being caught both in and out of possession or for defenders failing to mark.
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Aug 8, 2016 20:58:16 GMT
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Aug 8, 2016 20:58:16 GMT
As i said on another thread, in this league it's about strength, speed and no prisoners. That's how Scunny scored those three goals - all our players need to be able to do this..not just the keeper.
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Aug 8, 2016 22:08:54 GMT
Post by yategas78 on Aug 8, 2016 22:08:54 GMT
Yeah I reckon we ought to give it a few games let the guys settle in and get accustomed I'm sure we'll be okay!
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Aug 8, 2016 22:11:36 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 22:11:36 GMT
for me this thread has just been a witch hunt against mildenhall by some posters,totally unfair in my view as none of the goals were his fault.
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Aug 8, 2016 22:31:02 GMT
Post by stuart1974 on Aug 8, 2016 22:31:02 GMT
for me this thread has just been a witch hunt against mildenhall by some posters,totally unfair in my view as none of the goals were his fault. Certainly feels that way. For those saying we need to sign a better keeper, better in what way? More agile, younger, quicker, better distribution? The list of attributes necessary is quite lengthy and some can be mutually exclusive. The other thing about the goals on Saturday is that a different keeper would have made different decisions during the game, so whilst "he" may have saved one or two of those we conceded if in the same situation, who is to say those exact circumstances would have occurred.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 23:14:42 GMT
for me this thread has just been a witch hunt against mildenhall by some posters,totally unfair in my view as none of the goals were his fault. Certainly feels that way. For those saying we need to sign a better keeper, better in what way? More agile, younger, quicker, better distribution? The list of attributes necessary is quite lengthy and some can be mutually exclusive. The other thing about the goals on Saturday is that a different keeper would have made different decisions during the game, so whilst "he" may have saved one or two of those we conceded if in the same situation, who is to say those exact circumstances would have occurred.
i dont mind if the manager signs a new keeper,but i think mildenhall has been a fine keeper for us and some are following like sheep to round on him in any way possible which leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Aug 8, 2016 23:58:13 GMT
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Post by darkbluegas on Aug 8, 2016 23:58:13 GMT
I don't know how this has become so complicated. Mildy is a nice, professional, dedicated player. No one doubts he's done his best for us. But if we wish to improve as a club on the field we need a better goalkeeper. Likewise if this thread was about centre midfield it would be clear to see that to improve as a club we need better centre midfielders. The other lot are in the league above us because they have bought better players than we have.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2016 7:19:32 GMT
No, this theard isn't about improving one position, it's singling out one player for unnecessary criticisium when so far he's really done nothing wrong this season. Whilst we need to improve virtually every position, bar probably TL's & MT's, DC has to decide whether he replaces SM now and then have a very expensive reserve goalie sat on the bench all season, or spend that money elsewhere.
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Aug 9, 2016 7:37:09 GMT
Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Aug 9, 2016 7:37:09 GMT
Yeah I reckon we ought to give it a few games let the guys settle in and get accustomed I'm sure we'll be okay! Yes, that's OK. But we should remember that in this league teams can sense weakness in the opposition and they ruthlessly exploit that weakness. That's how we came down- the word got around and they all went for us, as they had in previous "close shave" seasons. Mildy may well come good this season, but we are going to need a Martin or Parkin for Championship ambitions.
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Aug 9, 2016 7:54:31 GMT
Post by stuart1974 on Aug 9, 2016 7:54:31 GMT
No, this theard isn't about improving one position, it's singling out one player for unnecessary criticisium when so far he's really done nothing wrong this season. Whilst we need to improve virtually every position, bar probably TL's & MT's, DC has to decide whether he replaces SM now and then have a very expensive reserve goalie sat on the bench all season, or spend that money elsewhere. If it was about bringing in players to improve the team then I have no problem and would agree, but it's not. Even the OP was referring to SM being too old using the weekend's goals as the reason and it received several likes. i think we have mixed two topics here, was SM at fault for some of the goals (not entirely in my opinion, the team needs to share responsibility) and can we improve the team including signing a new GK, (which I do agree with).
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