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Mildi
Aug 9, 2016 8:24:20 GMT
Post by stuart1974 on Aug 9, 2016 8:24:20 GMT
Yeah I reckon we ought to give it a few games let the guys settle in and get accustomed I'm sure we'll be okay! Yes, that's OK. But we should remember that in this league teams can sense weakness in the opposition and they ruthlessly exploit that weakness. That's how we came down- the word got around and they all went for us, as they had in previous "close shave" seasons. Mildy may well come good this season, but we are going to need a Martin or Parkin for Championship ambitions. Exploiting weaknesses isn't exclusive to L1 and every player has a weakness to some degree, they wouldn't be human otherwise. Martyn and Parkin were great keepers but neither were known at the time of signing. One from a part time team in Cornwall who dislodged an excellent established keeper and the other 3 choice at Palace in a team leaking goals like a sieve. I thought Parkin was really good, but don't forget his confidence went south when the backpass rule was introduced and Joner couldn't do his trademark time-wasting routine.
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Mildi
Aug 9, 2016 8:51:57 GMT
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Post by countygroundhotel on Aug 9, 2016 8:51:57 GMT
Yeah I reckon we ought to give it a few games let the guys settle in and get accustomed I'm sure we'll be okay! There is a different factor in play this year though in that you can only make a loan signing before the end of August, so the period you have to make that decision is greatly reduced on previous seasons. One outcome of that though maybe that you see less managerial sackings in early September with no chance of player changes until January. I think another outcome will be that half decent unattached players on the 1St September may see their value rise. Though I'm presuming that you can still sign unattached players outside the transfer windows. And yes I do realise you can still make an emergency goalkeeper loan.
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Mildi
Aug 9, 2016 9:16:56 GMT
Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2016 9:16:56 GMT
Yeah I reckon we ought to give it a few games let the guys settle in and get accustomed I'm sure we'll be okay! There is a different factor in play this year though in that you can only make a loan signing before the end of August, so the period you have to make that decision is greatly reduced on previous seasons. One outcome of that though maybe that you see less managerial sackings in early September with no chance of player changes until January. I think another outcome will be that half decent unattached players on the 1St September may see their value rise. Though I'm presuming that you can still sign unattached players outside the transfer windows. And yes I do realise you can still make an emergency goalkeeper loan. The other factor is if DC signs another Nicholls type goalie now we're stuck with him until at least January, perhaps that's why DC is waiting to see if Mildenhall can hack it at Div 1 level before signing another goalie? Not sure what will happen on 1 Sept as it could be players, & their agents, will get desperate if they want a move/1st team football and prices could drop rather than rise.
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Mildi
Aug 9, 2016 10:22:27 GMT
Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Aug 9, 2016 10:22:27 GMT
Yes, that's OK. But we should remember that in this league teams can sense weakness in the opposition and they ruthlessly exploit that weakness. That's how we came down- the word got around and they all went for us, as they had in previous "close shave" seasons. Mildy may well come good this season, but we are going to need a Martin or Parkin for Championship ambitions. Exploiting weaknesses isn't exclusive to L1 and every player has a weakness to some degree, they wouldn't be human otherwise. Martyn and Parkin were great keepers but neither were known at the time of signing. One from a part time team in Cornwall who dislodged an excellent established keeper and the other 3 choice at Palace in a team leaking goals like a sieve. I thought Parkin was really good, but don't forget his confidence went south when the backpass rule was introduced and Joner couldn't do his trademark time-wasting routine. The point about Martyn & Parkin was that they were good & reliable. That gave confidence. There must be 2016 versions out there somewhere.....
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Post by amgas on Aug 9, 2016 10:37:11 GMT
Nigel Martyn - Great Keeper - to get as good today I guess we need to sign Joe Hart :-)
Parkin - Decent replacement for next to nothing when Martyn was sold for a fortune. Then they brought in the back pass rule and he was finished ......
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Mildi
Aug 9, 2016 11:00:31 GMT
Post by stuart1974 on Aug 9, 2016 11:00:31 GMT
The point about Martyn & Parkin was that they were good & reliable. That gave confidence. There must be 2016 versions out there somewhere..... Very true, my point was that neither arrived with that reputation, they had to earn it first and any new keeper would also have to as well (both fans and teammates). They also played behind a very solid defence that included central midfield and Devon White coming back for set pieces. Parkin's distribution was better than Martyn's when he first arrived, but quickly 'learnt' to stop throwing the ball to players and punt it forward instead.
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Mildi
Aug 9, 2016 11:58:20 GMT
Post by jaunkerr on Aug 9, 2016 11:58:20 GMT
The point about Martyn & Parkin was that they were good & reliable. That gave confidence. There must be 2016 versions out there somewhere..... Very true, my point was that neither arrived with that reputation, they had to earn it first and any new keeper would also have to as well (both fans and teammates). They also played behind a very solid defence that included central midfield and Devon White coming back for set pieces. Parkin's distribution was better than Martyn's when he first arrived, but quickly 'learnt' to stop throwing the ball to players and punt it forward instead. We called him Brian "the Lion". He was a great keeper and we did very well in the deal with Nigel Martyn. He had big boots to follow in and made it his own. The back pass comment is nonsense IMO
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Mildi
Aug 9, 2016 15:06:42 GMT
Post by stuart1974 on Aug 9, 2016 15:06:42 GMT
Very true, my point was that neither arrived with that reputation, they had to earn it first and any new keeper would also have to as well (both fans and teammates). They also played behind a very solid defence that included central midfield and Devon White coming back for set pieces. Parkin's distribution was better than Martyn's when he first arrived, but quickly 'learnt' to stop throwing the ball to players and punt it forward instead. We called him Brian "the Lion". He was a great keeper and we did very well in the deal with Nigel Martyn. He had big boots to follow in and made it his own. The back pass comment is nonsense IMO That's fair enough, it was over 20 years ago (where did that go?!?). On a different note, a friend at the time was such an admirer of his that he changed his name by deed poll to incorporate "Parkin" into it. Haven't seen him for some time so if you are reading this, "hi, how are you?"
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Mildi
Aug 9, 2016 16:27:27 GMT
Post by stevek192 on Aug 9, 2016 16:27:27 GMT
The point is that there were a lot of goals scoas first choice red on Saturday similar to the two that people are blaming Mildenhall for so if every team follow the same as our supporters then there is no chance of getting a decent keeper as half the teams don't have one based on Saturday and for every gem remember there is a Nicholls or even a Daniels!! If I hadn't seen the second goal again I would have said Mildenhall had a good game and wasn't at fault as from our end all three goals looked unstoppable.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2016 17:20:15 GMT
Exploiting weaknesses isn't exclusive to L1 and every player has a weakness to some degree, they wouldn't be human otherwise. Martyn and Parkin were great keepers but neither were known at the time of signing. One from a part time team in Cornwall who dislodged an excellent established keeper and the other 3 choice at Palace in a team leaking goals like a sieve. I thought Parkin was really good, but don't forget his confidence went south when the backpass rule was introduced and Joner couldn't do his trademark time-wasting routine. The point about Martyn & Parkin was that they were good & reliable. That gave confidence. There must be 2016 versions out there somewhere..... Mildenhall let in less than a goal a game last season, I'd call that fairly reliable? So surely we need to let him play in a few games this season before writing him off purely based on his age?
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