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Post by lmgas on Aug 31, 2016 21:03:24 GMT
Academy / U23 teams, whatever you call them, signing players that would be playing in League 1. You may say it's been happening for years with Premier League and Championship squad sizes, but the reality is they can now offer these lads first team football - Everton are obviously taking it seriously: www.evertonfc.com/news/2016/08/31/everton-sign-calvert-lewinUnsworth has been getting very excited about the Checkatrade opportunity: "The boys are buzzing," he said. "More than they would have been after an Under-23 game. It was really important we entered this competition, come to places like this and experience a different kind of football." Wake up and smell the coffee!!! BOYCOTT CHECKATRADE AND CHECKATRADE TROPHY. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 31, 2016 21:20:32 GMT
Surely nothing new when we "lost" Santos to Derby a couple of years ago?
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Post by singupgas on Aug 31, 2016 21:21:14 GMT
This a joke, Evertons U23 shouldnt represent first team football, it is absolutely mocking lower league clubs.
Youll find teams like this do what Chelsea/Man city have been doing signing players to sit on their bench cos they cant score against you that way.
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Post by Quartermaster on Aug 31, 2016 21:54:10 GMT
I knew it wouldn't be, but still hoped this was going to be about UWE after reading the title!
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 1, 2016 8:35:48 GMT
With the introduction of EPPP it became relatively cheap for big clubs to buy promising youngsters off smaller clubs.
Since then clubs like man city and Chelsea have bought up as many as they can because even if one or two make it to the first team it pays for all the players they've brought in
I'm sure I saw a stat from last season that man city had around 20 youth players out on loan last season. I could be chatting rubbish there though.
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Post by oddsongas on Sept 1, 2016 8:59:14 GMT
With the introduction of EPPP it became relatively cheap for big clubs to buy promising youngsters off smaller clubs. Since then clubs like man city and Chelsea have bought up as many as they can because even if one or two make it to the first team it pays for all the players they've brought in I'm sure I saw a stat from last season that man city had around 20 youth players out on loan last season. I could be chatting rubbish there though. Chelsea have 38 players out on loan at this moment in time! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 9:10:15 GMT
It is nothing new. Arsenal and Wenger did the same in the League Cup for years playing youth/kids under the Arsenal first team banner.
If this is what the big boys want it will happen. Full stop. And people boycotting this Micky mouse cup which they more than likely wouldn't go to anyway but are making all the right loud noises,won't make one iota of a difference.
It's football experience against a competitive football side form the lower leagues these clubs want,not playing in front of 1,000 when usually 1,500 turn up.
It is 100% wrong in my book but it is the way football is going. The game we knew and loved died years ago. This is just another nail in the coffin for modern day football as we know it for the lower league teams.
It may also,by the way, be a saviour for the very small league teams which are surrounded by many big teams. Accrington, Bury etc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 9:47:28 GMT
It is nothing new. Arsenal and Wenger did the same in the League Cup for years playing youth/kids under the Arsenal first team banner. If this is what the big boys want it will happen. Full stop. And people boycotting this Micky mouse cup which they more than likely wouldn't go to anyway but are making all the right loud noises,won't make one iota of a difference. It's football experience against a competitive football side form the lower leagues these clubs want,not playing in front of 1,000 when usually 1,500 turn up. It is 100% wrong in my book but it is the way football is going. The game we knew and loved died years ago. This is just another nail in the coffin for modern day football as we know it for the lower league teams. It may also,by the way, be a saviour for the very small league teams which are surrounded by many big teams. Accrington, Bury etc. With all due respect, the introduction of U23 teams to competitive competition represent a fundamental change to football in this country. The obscene amount of money floating around the top level mean clubs can quite easily stockpile youngsters and form a second squad which would be highly competitive outside the Premier League. Whereas previously youngsters may have dropped down a level or two to kick start their career and play competitive football week in week out, the introduction of U23/B teams will hinder the chances of lower league clubs to provide that career platform, develop their talent and sell on for a profit. Roofe and Oxford spring to mind in that respect. I disagree with you that supporters can't make a difference. They ultimately hold the key. The Premier League product thrives largely down to the unique nature of supporters in this country and the atmosphere generated in sold out stadiums. This product would be highly damaged if supporters started to boycott and plenty of empty seats were shown on TV's around the world. If supporters refuse to accept U23/B teams entering competitive competitions and do not attend games, clubs would have little choice but to reject future trials or any permanent inclusion. It's a lie that supporters hold no power in this age. The problem being that as Tuesday demonstrated, there are many out there who will brainlessly accept anything which is put in front of them. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 1, 2016 9:53:31 GMT
It's a lie that supporters hold no power in this age. The problem being that as Tuesday demonstrated, there are many out there who will brainlessly accept anything which is put in front of them. Yeah, the supporters hold loads of power if they acted together. But, of course, collective action in this country recently has been largely sh**, and a lot (most?) so called football fans don't give a f**k about the game as a whole, if their club is doing well. |
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Post by inee on Sept 1, 2016 10:10:58 GMT
It's a lie that supporters hold no power in this age. The problem being that as Tuesday demonstrated, there are many out there who will brainlessly accept anything which is put in front of them. Yeah, the supporters hold loads of power if they acted together. But, of course, collective action in this country recently has been largely sh**, and a lot (most?) so called football fans don't give a f**k about the game as a whole, if their club is doing well. Thing is though it matters not a jot who protests, as the premiership club fans will support u23/b sides and as long as a premier league exists in this country then it will be accepted. Clubs who arn't in the premier league need to do what the premier league did at it's inception i.e break away form their own football league and go from there the efl only holds power as long as every club is a member, if all of a sudden it's only members were in the premier league then it would have to sit up and listen to the clubs it purports to support, instead of Dam them over for the sake of the one division that makes the most money. There is a simple way to stop this sh** and that is for clubs to get as many players sent of as they can in the first game against u23 sides(as apparently cards are only valid in that competition) , so only the u23 sides will progress ,if that doesnt send a message nothing will |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 12:07:13 GMT
It is nothing new. Arsenal and Wenger did the same in the League Cup for years playing youth/kids under the Arsenal first team banner. If this is what the big boys want it will happen. Full stop. And people boycotting this Micky mouse cup which they more than likely wouldn't go to anyway but are making all the right loud noises,won't make one iota of a difference. It's football experience against a competitive football side form the lower leagues these clubs want,not playing in front of 1,000 when usually 1,500 turn up. It is 100% wrong in my book but it is the way football is going. The game we knew and loved died years ago. This is just another nail in the coffin for modern day football as we know it for the lower league teams. It may also,by the way, be a saviour for the very small league teams which are surrounded by many big teams. Accrington, Bury etc. With all due respect, the introduction of U23 teams to competitive competition represent a fundamental change to football in this country. The obscene amount of money floating around the top level mean clubs can quite easily stockpile youngsters and form a second squad which would be highly competitive outside the Premier League. Whereas previously youngsters may have dropped down a level or two to kick start their career and play competitive football week in week out, the introduction of U23/B teams will hinder the chances of lower league clubs to provide that career platform, develop their talent and sell on for a profit. Roofe and Oxford spring to mind in that respect. I disagree with you that supporters can't make a difference. They ultimately hold the key. The Premier League product thrives largely down to the unique nature of supporters in this country and the atmosphere generated in sold out stadiums. This product would be highly damaged if supporters started to boycott and plenty of empty seats were shown on TV's around the world. If supporters refuse to accept U23/B teams entering competitive competitions and do not attend games, clubs would have little choice but to reject future trials or any permanent inclusion. It's a lie that supporters hold no power in this age. The problem being that as Tuesday demonstrated, there are many out there who will brainlessly accept anything which is put in front of them. The early rounds of this competition are meaningless to 99% of supporters. Get to the semi finals/finals or a local derby then people will turn up. And I am one of those. I think that is why this competition was chosen to gauge the reaction but loss of attendances was factored in Imo. Everything was and it would be Nieve of people to think otherwise. If the smaller clubs get compensated for lack of attendance then I would have thought many would gladly accept as attendances in the early rounds barely cover the cost of opening the stadium. Dont get me wrong, I am totally against this big club bulldozer but I saw this coming. It's a different world where they play their football as you well know. They have total contempt for their own supporters let alone the lower league menials. If this 'experiment' doesn't work it won't be down to people boycotting games. That is quite laughable. |
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