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Post by gasincider on Sept 3, 2016 19:21:53 GMT
Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but I've not seen it. In which case I am surprised why no one has mentioned it.
DC was being asked about our new signings, and He said he does not believe in bringing in people on loan unless we are in a position to buy them if they are successful.
His actual words were 'any loan player that comes into the club, people look on it as they are only loans, but if they do well we have the capability of getting these players if we purchase them'.
If this is the case, then perhaps this is the first inkling that there is in fact a great deal of funding potentially available should we wish to buy players.
Happy days indeed
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Post by xplosivgas on Sept 3, 2016 19:28:24 GMT
I think there's no chance of Rovers buying the Chelsea loanees no matter what they do performance-wise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 19:30:39 GMT
LOL so he's been here 6 months and "this is the first inkling that there is in fact a great deal of funding potentially available"
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Post by axegas on Sept 3, 2016 19:44:48 GMT
I think there's no chance of Rovers buying the Chelsea loanees no matter what they do performance-wise. I agree, I think he was mainly thinking about Roos, Roberts, James and perhaps Boateng when he said that. I do think money is there should darrel want it however. |
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Post by aghast on Sept 3, 2016 19:48:46 GMT
I get the impression, and I'm not sure how this works in the real world, that Wael is going to develop the club by responding to events rather than being proactive.
If we do badly, the investment in the squad will be limited until a winning combination is found. If we do not progress, any big signings and even perhaps the new stadium might not be top priority.
If we do well, and Championship football is on the cards, the cheque book will be opened to ensure we survive at a higher level and stadium plans will steam ahead.
When I say responding to events, I don't mean he does nothing. He's already made sure that DC and MT stay by making them very attractive offers. He's no doubt pulled a few strings at Chelsea to get the loanees. So if we're progressing nicely, he will give the players and management the tools they need to do what needs to be done next.
He won't buy them a fast track passport to success, which has been seen to fail so often in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 19:54:32 GMT
I think there's no chance of Rovers buying the Chelsea loanees no matter what they do performance-wise. I agree, I think he was mainly thinking about Roos, Roberts, James and perhaps Boateng when he said that. I do think money is there should darrel want it however. "I do think money is there should darrel want it however." What makes you think that? |
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Post by chippenhamgas on Sept 3, 2016 19:55:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 19:56:42 GMT
If they are successful here then that only decreases the small chance of Chelsea selling them to us.
Hiram Boateng, on the other hand, is a more realistic signing.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Sept 3, 2016 20:01:57 GMT
I don't think boatang is in palace's long term plans. We have the two chelsea youngsters for a year though, and could well keep them longer. Chelsea have just loaned someone out on a 3 year deal. They are very highly rated by them, could well have gone to championship clubs apparently.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 3, 2016 20:03:09 GMT
I agree, I think he was mainly thinking about Roos, Roberts, James and perhaps Boateng when he said that. I do think money is there should darrel want it however. "I do think money is there should darrel want it however." What makes you think that? I can't recall Wael spending anything on transfer fees too date? Given DC doesn't write the cheques he can't be certain 100% Wael will back him should he ever seek transfer funds but Roos, Roberts & James could all well be picked up on frees when their contracts run out, not sure what CP intend doing with Boateng. Although DC had McBurnie here last season and it seems there was never any chance of signing him. |
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Post by axegas on Sept 3, 2016 20:09:40 GMT
I agree, I think he was mainly thinking about Roos, Roberts, James and perhaps Boateng when he said that. I do think money is there should darrel want it however. "I do think money is there should darrel want it however." What makes you think that? The al qadi's aren't stupid, they will know that as Rovers progress, they will need to increase their investment in the playing budget to succeed further. Just because darrel did not spend money this transfer window it doesn't mean there isn't any at all I get the impression that darrel is looking to improve the squad with young hungry players and rightly so if you remember a couple years ago when rovers transfer policy was to buy older mercenary players looking for a good payday. Also you've got to remember that new contracts for MT and DC would have cost quite a bit, so what not to say if Darrel finds the right man in January that the owners won't spend a similar amount of money? People jump the gun far too often by demanding that we spend cash but darrel is right to bide his time, just because they haven't spent any money on players yet doesn't mean there is no money for it! |
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Post by chippenhamgas on Sept 3, 2016 20:18:45 GMT
I'm more concerned with developments off the field. For wael to spend any money the stadium needs to be a year away, otherwise it's effectively wasted. Championship football at the mem whilst not impossible is certainly not ideal. I get the feeling it's a holding operation at present.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 3, 2016 23:20:10 GMT
"I do think money is there should darrel want it however." What makes you think that? The al qadi's aren't stupid, they will know that as Rovers progress, they will need to increase their investment in the playing budget to succeed further. Just because darrel did not spend money this transfer window it doesn't mean there isn't any at all I get the impression that darrel is looking to improve the squad with young hungry players and rightly so if you remember a couple years ago when rovers transfer policy was to buy older mercenary players looking for a good payday. Also you've got to remember that new contracts for MT and DC would have cost quite a bit, so what not to say if Darrel finds the right man in January that the owners won't spend a similar amount of money? People jump the gun far too often by demanding that we spend cash but darrel is right to bide his time, just because they haven't spent any money on players yet doesn't mean there is no money for it! So are you suggesting that although Darrell's got loads of money to spend he's decided to leave it sat in the bank? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 23:41:42 GMT
Palace were actively looking to sell Boateng this summer, so maybe the fee was too high for a side at our level to take a risk on.
Probably about letting his contract run on a bit longer before they bring their price down.
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Post by Icegas on Sept 4, 2016 7:43:07 GMT
I'm more concerned with developments off the field. For wael to spend any money the stadium needs to be a year away, otherwise it's effectively wasted. Championship football at the mem whilst not impossible is certainly not ideal. I get the feeling it's a holding operation at present. I agree,I get the feeling that this season is in a way a bonus one for us,as we could push for the playoffs as we know that this team will get better as the season goes on - just like DC's sides have done over the past 2 seasons, but the main focus is to build for a real push over the next season. |
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Post by youmadethatup on Sept 4, 2016 8:11:00 GMT
I think this could be very true...including the chelsea boys. There can quite easily be a clause in the contract that allows chelsea either to always be offered the player first if other clubs come in or that they can buy the player back at a certain fee in future. It's not like chelsea have never sold a central defender to then buy him back again is it ?!
This is part of evolution...young players...BRFC obviously is not in a position to produce high enough quality youngsters at present so using those from other clubs is obviously the first step. Remember back in the day when the big boys suddenly became interested in getting young players...they didn't have their academies up and running properly so came stealing the best players from smaller clubs.That must be the stage BRFC are at currently.
These youngsters maybe the first crop .......
Let's face it if BRFC offered for example Swansea £200,000 for Roberts with them having a buy back option and sell on clause they would snap it up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 11:21:50 GMT
"I do think money is there should darrel want it however." What makes you think that? The al qadi's aren't stupid, they will know that as Rovers progress, they will need to increase their investment in the playing budget to succeed further. Just because darrel did not spend money this transfer window it doesn't mean there isn't any at all I get the impression that darrel is looking to improve the squad with young hungry players and rightly so if you remember a couple years ago when rovers transfer policy was to buy older mercenary players looking for a good payday. Also you've got to remember that new contracts for MT and DC would have cost quite a bit, so what not to say if Darrel finds the right man in January that the owners won't spend a similar amount of money? People jump the gun far too often by demanding that we spend cash but darrel is right to bide his time, just because they haven't spent any money on players yet doesn't mean there is no money for it! We must have the only manager in the entire football league who has money to spend, but doesn't want to spend a single penny... |
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Post by youmadethatup on Sept 4, 2016 11:25:42 GMT
The al qadi's aren't stupid, they will know that as Rovers progress, they will need to increase their investment in the playing budget to succeed further. Just because darrel did not spend money this transfer window it doesn't mean there isn't any at all I get the impression that darrel is looking to improve the squad with young hungry players and rightly so if you remember a couple years ago when rovers transfer policy was to buy older mercenary players looking for a good payday. Also you've got to remember that new contracts for MT and DC would have cost quite a bit, so what not to say if Darrel finds the right man in January that the owners won't spend a similar amount of money? People jump the gun far too often by demanding that we spend cash but darrel is right to bide his time, just because they haven't spent any money on players yet doesn't mean there is no money for it! We must have the only manager in the entire football league who has money to spend, but doesn't want to spend a single penny... Well he is spending money...but not on transfer fees. Players still have overheads...kit,transport,training equip,medical care etc etc. Better to have a free player and spend £200,000 on equipment and facilities.....than £200,000 on one player and have nothing else. |
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Post by lpgas on Sept 4, 2016 13:31:55 GMT
We must have the only manager in the entire football league who has money to spend, but doesn't want to spend a single penny... Well he is spending money...but not on transfer fees. Players still have overheads...kit,transport,training equip,medical care etc etc. Better to have a free player and spend £200,000 on equipment and facilities.....than £200,000 on one player and have nothing else. and somewhere to live when they first arrive |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 4, 2016 13:40:42 GMT
We must have the only manager in the entire football league who has money to spend, but doesn't want to spend a single penny... Well he is spending money...but not on transfer fees. Players still have overheads...kit,transport,training equip,medical care etc etc. Better to have a free player and spend £200,000 on equipment and facilities.....than £200,000 on one player and have nothing else. All those expenses looked fixed to me so doesn't matter if it's Gosling incurring them or Boateng, or even a player costing £200K. A bigger squad will cost more than a smaller one to run but the likes of Gosling aren't going to be on mega wages. |
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