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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 30, 2016 18:13:47 GMT
Bottom line is this
Their goalie saved everything & looked like a Lge 1 goalie.
our goalie cost us a point or 3.
This is Lge 1, not the Conference.
Is easy to pussy foot around the issue but it's been a problem since Philips was deemed not good enough by the dream team of Trolls & LL.
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Post by Okebournegas on Oct 30, 2016 18:49:33 GMT
Neal Ardley at Wimbledon wanted Roos back but said that we have more money, from that comment it seems to me that we have already agreed a price, he is a good keeper and the best loan apart from Etheridge who I thought was excellent. Roos is better than Sam walker, Luke Nicholls, chapman, Logan and the other two loanees we had. all keepers make mistakes, let s see how he plays Tuesday. cant remember chapman doing anything wrong Very true I thought he was ok too
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Post by bluegas on Oct 30, 2016 19:03:50 GMT
Why do fans have to forget Mildenhall when the club is paying his wages for the entire season, particularly when there's no guarantee Roos will be here after January let alone the summer? I just can't understand DC's obsession with signing inexperienced goalies when it seem the one position experience really counts why couldn't he just sign an Etheridge type goalie to win us points, not cost us them. I wonder if it has ever occurred to you that no other keepers were available, wanted to come here or allowed to by their club? Just a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 19:27:54 GMT
good report although i thought the manager got the selection right as we should have comfortably won the game. ref "where was leadbitter" with there winner,well football is a fluid game and when players are out of position others provide cover and chris lines[shoot me if im wrong] was covering for danny in the left back position but got caught flat footed by there winger which led to the goal. also in typical dc fashion we were taking risks to try and win the game at the end so were short of numbers when they broke. i looked again at the highlights and the winner simply came from us having too many players forward and tom lockyer having to make a desperate dash to try and cover the gap in the right back position and then getting done by there left winger.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 19:37:33 GMT
Gotta say I thought our man of the match was Gaffney who was superb throughout dragging Posh all over the place. Thought Leadbitter ,apart from getting the penalty , was awful. I can only remember him taking on the fullback twice all game. ive watched montano leadbitter brown and moore and none of them are really keen to take on the full back,bodin does with neat step overs usually cutting inside,kyle walker and danny rose at spurs seldom take on defenders so its not everything and danny got into good crossing positions many times and delivered a fair few tidy crosses imo although its been a weak area for him at times.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 30, 2016 19:40:06 GMT
1873 you are right but this is why I keep on that we need a proper Captain because although we had men forward we also had more than enough players back to deal with the problem - a Captain would ensure that the rest moved forward but my main point was that it is ok Leads going forward at that stage if he was a wingback but as a fullback his priority is to get the defensive side right.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 19:54:31 GMT
1873 you are right but this is why I keep on that we need a proper Captain because although we had men forward we also had more than enough players back to deal with the problem - a Captain would ensure that the rest moved forward but my main point was that it is ok Leads going forward at that stage if he was a wingback but as a fullback his priority is to get the defensive side right. i take your point but i think it mostly comes from the manager who tends to go for broke if we are level late in games. were playing a little bit like spurs do when we have a narrow midfield with the full backs at times playing as virtual wingers,when danny was out of position somebody should have looked out for him but it didnt happen on saturday.
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Post by paulpirate on Oct 30, 2016 20:39:41 GMT
Roos has cost us now more points than he has saved. Unless some real solidity is shown we must buy an experienced keeper. I just don't trust either mildy, Puddy or Roos. I have seen on the whole, better keepers than ours with opponents this season. How he gets the same score as Easter...my analysis would be a 3 out of 10, given 5 is halfway. Other than the pen, didn't see that much from Dan. Gaffney was my MOM, nobody looked as up for it as him. Although I hate to say it, Tom was at fault for that last goal. He was skinned over 5 yards. He needs a rest. New keeper and anther CB (if we aren't playing MMC?) Nothing wrong with the performance but individual errors in key positions cost us and we just cannot do that if we want to play in the championship one day. The counter to this is let the players learn at this level. Perhaps Lockyers and Roos mistakes are setting them up for more success. Who knows? All that can be said is we are not, in my opinion, going to dominate this league if we make mistakes like these. who said anything about dominating? Survival was ok wasn't it,need more than two players to dominate
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Post by paulpirate on Oct 30, 2016 20:43:17 GMT
1873 you are right but this is why I keep on that we need a proper Captain because although we had men forward we also had more than enough players back to deal with the problem - a Captain would ensure that the rest moved forward but my main point was that it is ok Leads going forward at that stage if he was a wingback but as a fullback his priority is to get the defensive side right. i take your point but i think it mostly comes from the manager who tends to go for broke if we are level late in games. were playing a little bit like spurs do when we have a narrow midfield with the full backs at times playing as virtual wingers,when danny was out of position somebody should have looked out for him but it didnt happen on saturday.
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Post by paulpirate on Oct 30, 2016 20:44:01 GMT
1873 you are right but this is why I keep on that we need a proper Captain because although we had men forward we also had more than enough players back to deal with the problem - a Captain would ensure that the rest moved forward but my main point was that it is ok Leads going forward at that stage if he was a wingback but as a fullback his priority is to get the defensive side right. i take your point but i think it mostly comes from the manager who tends to go for broke if we are level late in games. were playing a little bit like spurs do when we have a narrow midfield with the full backs at times playing as virtual wingers,when danny was out of position somebody should have looked out for him but it didnt happen on saturday. are you a Spurs fan by any chance ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 20:51:26 GMT
i take your point but i think it mostly comes from the manager who tends to go for broke if we are level late in games. were playing a little bit like spurs do when we have a narrow midfield with the full backs at times playing as virtual wingers,when danny was out of position somebody should have looked out for him but it didnt happen on saturday. are you a Spurs fan by any chance ? no im a rovers fan,,i just thought the narrow midfield and overlapping full backs is how we are playing when we have the ball. ps.spurs press all over the pitch but we dont so were not the same when our opponents have the ball. i know i mentioned the spurs full backs in another post so i could be a closet spurs fan.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Oct 30, 2016 20:54:34 GMT
We played better yesterday than against Gillingham, just the way it goes sometimes. Some real plusses in gaffney and ollie clarke. The real test will be in whether we bounce back tues.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 30, 2016 21:57:38 GMT
good report although i thought the manager got the selection right as we should have comfortably won the game. ref "where was leadbitter" with there winner,well football is a fluid game and when players are out of position others provide cover and chris lines[shoot me if im wrong] was covering for danny in the left back position but got caught flat footed by there winger which led to the goal. also in typical dc fashion we were taking risks to try and win the game at the end so were short of numbers when they broke. i looked again at the highlights and the winner simply came from us having too many players forward and tom lockyer having to make a desperate dash to try and cover the gap in the right back position and then getting done by there left winger. It all started with Lines trying a silly cross field pass, he did a few odd things yesterday including blasting a ball at the back of the Posh player when the ref wasn't even looking, then the chubby no 4 did an lunge so stopping Sincs winning the tackle.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 30, 2016 22:05:18 GMT
Why do fans have to forget Mildenhall when the club is paying his wages for the entire season, particularly when there's no guarantee Roos will be here after January let alone the summer? I just can't understand DC's obsession with signing inexperienced goalies when it seem the one position experience really counts why couldn't he just sign an Etheridge type goalie to win us points, not cost us them. I wonder if it has ever occurred to you that no other keepers were available, wanted to come here or allowed to by their club? Just a thought. But that was down to poor planning in the summer for the second consecutive season, as I can't imagine back then the only goalie interested in joining us was a Championship No 3/4/5(?) choice goalie. It was fairly obvious Puddy was never going to be up to Championship football, if DC thinks he is then surely he'll start on Tuesday? Although I never understood why DC made a big issue out of Mildenhall's ability, he may not now be the best but he's been fairly reliable and fans weren't calling for him to be replaced.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 22:17:24 GMT
DL first half was OK but 2nd half he found his confidence again and ran at players DC has to encourage Danny to run with ball with his pace he causes opposition defence big problems.
For Peterbrough no.4 Michael bostwick quality CDM was charging everything down breaking up our play was a beast of a bloke looked like a rugby player Wouldn't mind him playing in our midfield.
Overall lockyer had a very good game until the final few minutes deserves more credit for his performance.
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Post by Okebournegas on Oct 30, 2016 22:56:28 GMT
I wonder if it has ever occurred to you that no other keepers were available, wanted to come here or allowed to by their club? Just a thought. But that was down to poor planning in the summer for the second consecutive season, as I can't imagine back then the only goalie interested in joining us was a Championship No 3/4/5(?) choice goalie. It was fairly obvious Puddy was never going to be up to Championship football, if DC thinks he is then surely he'll start on Tuesday? Although I never understood why DC made a big issue out of Mildenhall's ability, he may not now be the best but he's been fairly reliable and fans weren't calling for him to be replaced. Think you are being way too harsh on Roos , he has made a few errors granted but you're making out he's terrible, like I've said the bloke won promotion with Wimbledon so he can't be that bad and you don't turn bad overnight. you are right about fans not calling for mildenhall to be replaced because for reasons unbeknown to me he seems to be blameless for anything he does. Mildenhall has made mistakes that has cost us points but it only seems to be an issue when any other keeper costs us.
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Post by bluegas on Oct 30, 2016 23:14:44 GMT
And I believe I heard DC say Mildy is injured & having it looked. Doesn't seem much choice over who's in goal Tuesday.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 23:37:04 GMT
i looked again at the highlights and the winner simply came from us having too many players forward and tom lockyer having to make a desperate dash to try and cover the gap in the right back position and then getting done by there left winger. It all started with Lines trying a silly cross field pass, he did a few odd things yesterday including blasting a ball at the back of the Posh player when the ref wasn't even looking, then the chubby no 4 did an lunge so stopping Sincs winning the tackle. i think if the ref was looking there man would have got a yellow for not retreating 10 yards but as you said he wasnt looking so it was daft. lines did have a strange game i agree,playing some weird passes,some good runs,pulling out of tackles etc,i do believe hes a very good footballer though at the end of the day.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 31, 2016 6:55:43 GMT
Roo's is by far the best "loan" keeper we have had recently. He will be here next season
Think that was Tom L worst game of the season, well covered by our Chelski lad
Taylor was just awful
Harrison should never play for the club again. Watched him warming up pre match and half time and his body language said it all... showed no interest at all
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 31, 2016 7:21:08 GMT
Roo's is by far the best "loan" keeper we have had recently. He will be here next season Think that was Tom L worst game of the season, well covered by our Chelski lad Taylor was just awful Harrison should never play for the club again. Watched him warming up pre match and half time and his body language said it all... showed no interest at all I guess that means DC will start Harrison on Tuesday night! He sadly seems to be losing his way again but you have to wonder if Gaffney will ever find the net again, despite his efforts. Taylor's an odd one as he seems to put little effort in but always scores, the opposite of Gaffers.
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