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Nov 3, 2016 10:40:35 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 10:40:35 GMT
We've done ok since Grimsby at Wembley though for the howlers and managerial farce wrt goalkeepers right? Those things considered, how much better off would we be exactly? Roos made a mistake, we lost, we had 28 shots but it's the GKs fault we lost?! All players make mistakes every game yet there is an example made of certain players whilst others escape criticism.. The Boro keeper gets praise but that's a snapshot from 1 game. I'm not entirely sure on the point tbh "everything a LG1 keeper should be" what? Just because his team won? Otherwise that statement would not have been written. Top 10 after consecutive promotions, more than holding our own. I'm all for constructive criticism but half of the criticism on here is more akin to playground mob bullying. I presume the bullying bit isn't aimed at me? I think Roos is ok but that's all. OK. We should aspire to better than that. Don't treat me like a reactionary idiot. I would 100% have written that the posh goalie was what was needed if we had won or drawn. He did EVERYTHING necessary of him as a goalie. Roos didn't. Simple. Are you honestly suggesting a goalie couldn't be on a losing side and stil be a brilliant goalie. Did you ever see Fraser Forster for us? Or Norwich? Or Joe hart at Shrewsbury? Bentley at Southend? Butland on his loan spells? Btw - not comparing posh goalie to them on 1 game... The point really is that for 18 months we've not had a goalie of our own who is definitely for for purpose for the lge we have been in. I liked Puddy in the conf. Was fine for that lge. Never got to prove himself in lge 2 but was unlikely to be anything more than average. Mildly is ok, just, at lge 2 level. Great shot stopper but that's all. We need a permanent goalie who is above average in lge 1. Not a lot to ask really? As much as I love DCs idea of giving every promotion winning player a contract at the higher level it has caused an almighty reliance on loan keepers and kept 2 average / injury prone keepers on our wage bill. I couldn't agree more with your last. However the rest is matter of opinion and no I'm not calling anybody a bully! Another who was fantastic but in a poor side was Etheridge.
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Post by Squiffy on Nov 3, 2016 11:06:56 GMT
It didn't sound very noisy or committed or passionate on the radio until we scored. Early goal quietend the crowd. Different songs being started at the same time doesn't help either. I'm not sure many people know the words to songs anymore except Goodnight Irene and that's sung too fast. I did see WHU fans were handing out sheets of paper prior to their game against Chelsea with lyrics on, although they weren't very favourable towards John Terry! Could be an idea for us or someone could post them on here. Still don't know why some still sing anti IRA songs with reference to the Pope songs don't get it. Without getting in to political debates, the world has and is still trying to move on. I still think we're one of the most vocal teams on the terraces hearing most teams fans this season.UTG I think DC needs to get the 12th man in for some extra singing practice as he's clearly not improved since the conference season and is not meeting the high standards now expected under the new regime.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 3, 2016 11:32:46 GMT
A few people were criticizing him for the goal we conceded early in the first half in the South Stand. Blimey, having seen it several times don't think any goalkeeper would have saved that. Went in the one place he had no chance. Very harsh to blame him.
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Nov 3, 2016 12:27:35 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 12:27:35 GMT
There is no denying Roos has made some great saves and had good performances, but the fact he made 2 absolute schoolboy errors in a short amount of time has got many worried about his consistency or lack of it.
I think it must be a lot more pressurised here than at AFC Wimbledon, there could be a great keeper in there he just has to come through it and cut out the mistakes that should really be bread and butter to a keeper.
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Post by lympstonegas on Nov 3, 2016 12:47:54 GMT
Alll about opinions of course but I really think he has the makings of a very good keeper and believe DC will keep him if we get the option from Derby and Roos wants to stay
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Post by grayraydon on Nov 3, 2016 13:14:38 GMT
Alll about opinions of course but I really think he has the makings of a very good keeper and believe DC will keep him if we get the option from Derby and Roos wants to stay Totally agree with this, if it's true that his contract is up in the summer then it wouldn't surprise me if that was one of the factors in DC bringing him in on loan for the season with a view to signing him and going on his recent comments I think we will definitely sign him if he's available, unless he has an absolute stinker for the rest of the season, which I don't think he will personally as I think he's got what it takes and is young enough to improve quite a lot still.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 3, 2016 14:37:08 GMT
Nicholls came to us last year with as good a record as you will get having played on loan with Northampton for a whole season when they got to the play-offs. It just didn't work out for him for whatever reason. He was in the team during October, November and early December when we were not at our best. Poor bloke was in front of a back four against Newport who were awful and during that time Parkes was an accudent waiting to happen. Most of Nicholls mistakes were at the Mem, in other words in front of the home fans. He became a bit of a scapegoat and it never worked out. Yet he nearly saved us against Chesham with the pen save before a long shot that he should have saved. I just feel that he was a good keeper but the luck went against him and immediately Milds came back in we started playing well. The keeper is always only part of the defence and Roos is the same but I felt last year Nicholls got more blame than others. I like Roos, he will get better and we need to stick with him esp now Milds is out for a long time. Like LMW said it's probably more pressured here than at AFCW and he will get stick from some of our lot whatever. The problem he has to overcome is that whatever the goal we concede is like some will say he should have saved it e.g. Tuesday night. He had no chance but some from South Stand think he should. If he was good enough to save that he would be in Derby first team and not on loan in League 1! He had no chance. UTG!
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 3, 2016 19:52:30 GMT
Mehewmagic, I am not sure on your interpretation of a good goalkeeper being the Posh keeper who had very little to do having seen him in other games and highlights where he has been anything but a good keeper and looking at the Goals each week on 5 I would say that Roos is over all the games I have seen him play (all of them) up with the top ones in this division. He has made two bad errors but those apart has looked a generally assured keeper,good with the ball at his feet and willing to come for a large majority of crosses and whereas with Mildy in goal I was always worried if our opponents had either a corner or a direct free kick on the edge of the box. I now have no worries for either of these and would have no qualms whatsoever in playing in the Championship with Roos in goal.
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