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Post by clearblue on Nov 23, 2016 22:19:52 GMT
Zzzzzzzzz
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Post by aghast on Nov 23, 2016 22:25:35 GMT
Taylor is nowhere near as good as any of the strikers we've ever received decent money for. I would be biting off the hand of any club offering 1m. £1m is pocket money to Championship clubs. Perhaps best you don't lead the negotiations.
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Post by paulpirate on Nov 23, 2016 22:30:16 GMT
Taylor is nowhere near as good as any of the strikers we've ever received decent money for. I would be biting off the hand of any club offering 1m. £1m is pocket money to Championship clubs. Perhaps best you don't lead the negotiations. yeah but this is rovers we always sell our best players at Asda
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Post by paulpirate on Nov 23, 2016 22:30:41 GMT
Prices
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Post by nailseamark on Nov 23, 2016 22:34:28 GMT
You lot are all completely insane, just because we have had a couple of bad results you are all soured on Matty Taylor. Idiots, can you not remember what this man has done for us, if it wasn't for him we would still be in league 2 watching the ball in the air for 90 minutes with Harrold bouncing around....Or even worse in the conference watching Craig Stanley score a fat trick against us!
Complete idiots, Taylor is a legend and has more goals for us than Stewart anyway. For the prices players are going for at the moment , 1million would be a complete joke and would kill any chance of us reaching the Championship this season!
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 23, 2016 22:41:12 GMT
Taylor is nowhere near as good as any of the strikers we've ever received decent money for. I would be biting off the hand of any club offering 1m. How do you work that view out? The likes of Stewart and Hayles were sold when we were a Div 1 side from memory so how do you know MT can't score in the Championship? MT could score 20 goals before the end of the year, how many Rovers players have done that in the last couple of decades?
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Post by wiaww on Nov 23, 2016 22:45:00 GMT
Taylor is nowhere near as good as any of the strikers we've ever received decent money for. I would be biting off the hand of any club offering 1m. How do you work that view out? The likes of Stewart and Hayles were sold when we were a Div 1 side from memory so how do you know MT can't score in the Championship? MT could score 20 goals before the end of the year, how many Rovers players have done that in the last couple of decades? It's utterly bizarre. All Taylor has done is score goals and still some on here are desperate for him to fail. Pathetic really.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 24, 2016 0:08:19 GMT
Hard to compare, different leagues, different times. I think Stewart and Bazza were better and they proved their values in the Premier League. But if Stewart and Bazza failed to score as many as they did we'd have struggled in mid table or lower mid table in League 1. If MT hadn't scored the goals he did we would be looking at oblivion and possibly Conference South if we even existed! That tells me that overall MTs goals have been far, far more important for Rovers than the others. 2 seasons, 2 promotions what is there not to like or celebrate or say thank you for? UTG!
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 24, 2016 6:47:18 GMT
Best of luck to Matt, he did not have to stay in the summer, he did, and nobody can blame him for moving on during the January window; I have been told the get out clause maybe as low as £300k, although I guess there will be a price war with so many clubs being interested.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Nov 24, 2016 6:57:58 GMT
At best he's a poor man's cureton, or as someone else said a hoskins. Not in the same league as Penrice, Stewart, Hayles, Roberts or lambert.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 24, 2016 8:24:50 GMT
Is it so hard to compare? Stewart's first season with us was in the second tier, where he only scored a small amount of goals. Certainly single figures though I'm not sure if exact amount - Devon White is listed on wiki as our top scorer that year with 10. The entire rest of his career for us was in the same league we're in now, where Matty has banged in 15 by the end of November. I'm certain that Stewy was never that prolific for us, whilst being a very consistent scorer. He was brilliant and I wouldn't say Matty is a better player either. His sample size is obviously smaller than Stewy's, but is it really so impossible to compare as the most valid stats for both strikers playing for us are in the third tier.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 24, 2016 8:40:40 GMT
With regard to a get out clause, we've never set a figure for selling as far as I recall. What we do do, is put in a clause that says if any championship or above club comes in for a player, we will advise the player accordingly. These days, this is almost needless As clubs tap up the players agents anyway, but don't believe half the bullsh*t you hear about release fees.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Nov 24, 2016 8:45:31 GMT
With regard to a get out clause, we've never set a figure for selling as far as I recall. What we do do, is put in a clause that says if any championship or above club comes in for a player, we will advise the player accordingly. These days, this is almost needless As clubs tap up the players agents anyway, but don't believe half the bullsh*t you hear about release fees. Would depend on the wording whether we have to inform the player if a bid or accept a bid above £x. Academic really as once we inform a player of a bid his agent will know what the other club are offering so either the player goes or you are left with an unhappy player. I am presuming there that the financial package offered is significantly greater than we are currently paying
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Post by gasincider on Nov 24, 2016 8:47:18 GMT
If you think Lines can't hack it, then id love to know what you think of Mansell, Lawrence, Sinclair. Lines has been driving force in midfield this season. Colckett is not our player and likely be at a championship club next season. Boateng is being wasted, superb each game but seems out of favour. Bodin has gone missing his season and Montano and Moore play so rarely they can't find any form. Currently our strongest midfield would be lines, colckett and Boateng in my opinion Mansell- ideal player if younger and fitter Lawrence - god knows why we signed him Sinclair - worth his place every week.
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Post by northsidegas on Nov 24, 2016 9:20:31 GMT
Lines? You jest sir. He can't hack it at our current level. Taylor? That is a dilemma that championship clubs have to gamble on if they want him. Lockyer? He's struggling at League 1 level, so what justifies your optimism? It might help by taking the captaincy off him. Your final sentence however I wholeheartedly agree with, with regard to transfers etc. My biggest worry is that with the ridiculous constant changes, we can't know, any more than DC can, just who is up to the job at League 1 level. After two years together, DC still doesn't know his best team. My other major worry is that next season we won't have most if not all the current loan players, and we should be looking for our own players to replace them. I hope our new set up is already looking to do so. If you think Lines can't hack it, then id love to know what you think of Mansell, Lawrence, Sinclair. Lines has been driving force in midfield this season. Colckett is not our player and likely be at a championship club next season. Boateng is being wasted, superb each game but seems out of favour. Bodin has gone missing his season and Montano and Moore play so rarely they can't find any form. Currently our strongest midfield would be lines, colckett and Boateng in my opinion. All the others mentioned struggling to prove worth. Sinclair lovin I don't get involved in. Nice guy, great beard, works hard on the pitch, starting 11 league 1 footballer - probably not. Same with Ollie Clarke tries hard and make a good squad player. lines would be such a better player if he made more direct runs with the ball twice I can recall him doing it this season one where he scored and once Tuesday night where he won a free kick otherwise he was in on goal, he should do this alot more often instead of trying the sideways Beckham passes
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 24, 2016 9:27:12 GMT
Is it so hard to compare? Stewart's first season with us was in the second tier, where he only scored a small amount of goals. Certainly single figures though I'm not sure if exact amount - Devon White is listed on wiki as our top scorer that year with 10. The entire rest of his career for us was in the same league we're in now, where Matty has banged in 15 by the end of November. I'm certain that Stewy was never that prolific for us, whilst being a very consistent scorer. He was brilliant and I wouldn't say Matty is a better player either. His sample size is obviously smaller than Stewy's, but is it really so impossible to compare as the most valid stats for both strikers playing for us are in the third tier. Fair point but most of MTs time and goals have been below League 1 though he has done brilliantly this season and on his time since August he's done as well as the others. My point was more that Marcus and Bazza scored in the PL and did it over a period of time and MT hasn't done that yet. He might do so but my gut feeling is that the others were just better than him. Most stats for MT are below League 1. Whatever, I'm mighty glad we've had and have MT because his value to us has been greater than that of Marcus and most others because I hate to think where we'd be now without MT goals. UTG!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 24, 2016 11:19:00 GMT
Is it so hard to compare? Stewart's first season with us was in the second tier, where he only scored a small amount of goals. Certainly single figures though I'm not sure if exact amount - Devon White is listed on wiki as our top scorer that year with 10. The entire rest of his career for us was in the same league we're in now, where Matty has banged in 15 by the end of November. I'm certain that Stewy was never that prolific for us, whilst being a very consistent scorer. He was brilliant and I wouldn't say Matty is a better player either. His sample size is obviously smaller than Stewy's, but is it really so impossible to compare as the most valid stats for both strikers playing for us are in the third tier. Fair point but most of MTs time and goals have been below League 1 though he has done brilliantly this season and on his time since August he's done as well as the others. My point was more that Marcus and Bazza scored in the PL and did it over a period of time and MT hasn't done that yet. He might do so but my gut feeling is that the others were just better than him. Most stats for MT are below League 1. Whatever, I'm mighty glad we've had and have MT because his value to us has been greater than that of Marcus and most others because I hate to think where we'd be now without MT goals. UTG! I agree - that's why I refer to small sample size in division 1, but one thing Taylor has done is adapt and improve year on year in a higher league so I certainly wouldn't rule out further progress.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2016 11:25:47 GMT
Best of luck to Matt, he did not have to stay in the summer, he did, and nobody can blame him for moving on during the January window; I have been told the get out clause maybe as low as £300k, although I guess there will be a price war with so many clubs being interested. If there was a get out clause of 300k there would be no bidding war every club would stump up 300k which is all they need to bid to talk to him.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 24, 2016 14:31:43 GMT
If you think Lines can't hack it, then id love to know what you think of Mansell, Lawrence, Sinclair. Lines has been driving force in midfield this season. Colckett is not our player and likely be at a championship club next season. Boateng is being wasted, superb each game but seems out of favour. Bodin has gone missing his season and Montano and Moore play so rarely they can't find any form. Currently our strongest midfield would be lines, colckett and Boateng in my opinion Mansell- ideal player if younger and fitter Lawrence - god knows why we signed him Sinclair - worth his place every week. Mansell and Lawrence are probably both competing thier coaching badges now. If your basing it on effort then yes Sinclair would be worth starting 11 place. Footballing wise, is he a player that can carry club further forward, I am not convinced. Reached his level now.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 24, 2016 15:36:03 GMT
At best he's a poor man's cureton, or as someone else said a hoskins. Not in the same league as Penrice, Stewart, Hayles, Roberts or lambert. I kind of disagree, strongly. As a footballer you may be right and I think Bazza and Marcus are probably better footballers and have done it at higher levels but as human beings and team players think you are way out. To say he is "a poor man's Cureton" is hugely disrespectful IMO. Cureton and Roberts in season 99/00 put their own individual careers above BRFC and destroyed our promotion hopes, very good footballers but players for whom the club meant absolutely nothing when push came to shove, something MT has never done and again IMO, would never do. The fall out in the 2000 close season of that failure completely b******* us for that season leading to relegation. Quite the reverse, he has stayed although when he goes it will be with the thanks of most gasheads I would imagine. He might not be in the "same league" as some of those but his goals will have been far more valuable than theirs. Without Cureton and Roberts goals we missed promotion, without Marcus' goals we would have been mid table. Without the goals of MT we would still be in Conference, or even Conference South or we might not even exist. Either way his goals have meant on Saturday we are going to Chesterfield instead of Weston Super Mare or somewhere like that. UTG!
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