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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 17:48:58 GMT
No we weren't.couple of things I have noticed recently is Hartley seems to lose concentration at key moments.meaning Lockyer is exposed.keeper has lost confidence and we have no midfield general.mansell for Sinclair and boating for Clarke.the side are playing like complete strangers and seem confused as to what system they are meant to be playing
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Post by garystash on Nov 26, 2016 17:49:36 GMT
That is a poor result!! So have the recent home games been too. A few weeks ago we would have just been brushing aside teams like these especially bottom of the table.We need to sort it quickly The only team we've "brushed aside" all season has been Oldham. I may be wrong but I think every other win - aside from Oxford - we've had to come from behind to get. Also, we haven't won by more than one goal except in that Oldham game.
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Post by dragonfly on Nov 26, 2016 17:50:09 GMT
The problem is clearly at the back. Even if we had managed to score another one or two, that would just paper the cracks. You can't ship as many goals as we have recently and be successful. It's clearly just too easy for teams to score against us. Agree with this and would add that DC shows a strong bias towards attacking play which may be a reason for our defensive weakness. There has to be a better balance in strength throughout the team which should be addressed in January. Attack being the best form of defence is not working for us right now. The commentators claimed that for all of our dominance we did not really test their GK which is a further worry, but it sounded as if we gave it a good go.
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Post by justin blue on Nov 26, 2016 17:50:46 GMT
We're we ever brushing teams aside? We had to come from behind so many times to get our points. We're still conceding first but now we aren't coming back like we were. We've got to stop conceding the first goal. We did score first today. And we scored last. It's the bit in the middle that messed it up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 17:53:17 GMT
We did score first today. And we scored last. It's the bit in the middle that messed it up. It seems so simplistic when you put it like that!!
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Post by socrates on Nov 26, 2016 17:59:29 GMT
The diamond formation is sh**e. We need to play 4-4-2 give bodin and monty a run as wingers. We didn't need to change the formation at half time on Tuesday it f**ked us up, ok we were 2-0 down but Bodin for Moore would have done. Wasn't there today but it sounded much better once bodin came on, he's class he needs a run in the side. We can still win promotion and we can still be relegated there's a long way to go yet but we need to bring in an experienced keeper drop Roos to bench keep Lockyer in the side but not as captain and we desperately more than anything need to replace Mansell, the back four have got no cover.
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 26, 2016 18:07:55 GMT
The diamond formation is sh**e. We need to play 4-4-2 give bodin and monty a run as wingers. We didn't need to change the formation at half time on Tuesday it f**ked us up, ok we were 2-0 down but Bodin for Moore would have done. Wasn't there today but it sounded much better once bodin came on, he's class he needs a run in the side. We can still win promotion and we can still be relegated there's a long way to go yet but we need to bring in an experienced keeper drop Roos to bench keep Lockyer in the side but not as captain and we desperately more than anything need to replace Mansell, the back four have got no cover. Must admit, the return off Bodin feels like todays biggest positive. I'd love that to continue, he looked like such a great prospect at end of last season and really adds to our side. Goals and general game. Look forward to hearing more about how he did
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Post by justin blue on Nov 26, 2016 18:10:08 GMT
And we scored last. It's the bit in the middle that messed it up. It seems so simplistic when you put it like that!! Seriously though I thought at a few games. when we've been goal up if we could have got another we would get a hatful. We just seem to struggle to find that killer punch.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Nov 26, 2016 18:11:27 GMT
Well, in the pub a mile from the ground and will need a few to lift the depression.
We utterly dominated that game for the first 20 mins and could have been out of sight yet as seems to always happen at the moment the first meaningful attack the opposition have and its in our net! In the end we probably had 3 times as many attempts on goal as they did yet we somehow lose, and lose to a pretty poor team at that.
Defence and keeper are our problems. Both need to be addressed in Jan or it will be a battle to just stay up. Our team has done fantastically well to get us to this level but league 1 is a step too far for some of them and now the momentum of promotion has died down its obvious to see.
Over to the Board now. Honeymoon period over. What are you going to do about investment in the team? What are you going to do about our ramshackle ground? Next two months will tell us what they are all about.
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Post by justin blue on Nov 26, 2016 18:20:09 GMT
That is a poor result!! So have the recent home games been too. A few weeks ago we would have just been brushing aside teams like these especially bottom of the table.We need to sort it quickly The only team we've "brushed aside" all season has been Oldham. I may be wrong but I think every other win - aside from Oxford - we've had to come from behind to get. Also, we haven't won by more than one goal except in that Oldham game. To be fair we didn't exactly brush Oldham asside there was a tricky period in the second half when we were on the ropes. If they had scored then it could have gone either way. Fortunately the second goal demoralized them.
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Post by rambo on Nov 26, 2016 18:24:21 GMT
The diamond formation is sh**e. We need to play 4-4-2 give bodin and monty a run as wingers. We didn't need to change the formation at half time on Tuesday it f**ked us up, ok we were 2-0 down but Bodin for Moore would have done. Wasn't there today but it sounded much better once bodin came on, he's class he needs a run in the side. We can still win promotion and we can still be relegated there's a long way to go yet but we need to bring in an experienced keeper drop Roos to bench keep Lockyer in the side but not as captain and we desperately more than anything need to replace Mansell, the back four have got no cover. How can you claim the diamond is sh**e if you weren't there today? Fact is a lot of success has come from starting with that formation.
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Post by justin blue on Nov 26, 2016 18:32:28 GMT
Well, in the pub a mile from the ground and will need a few to lift the depression. We utterly dominated that game for the first 20 mins and could have been out of sight yet as seems to always happen at the moment the first meaningful attack the opposition have and its in our net! In the end we probably had 3 times as many attempts on goal as they did yet we somehow lose, and lose to a pretty poor team at that. Defence and keeper are our problems. Both need to be addressed in Jan or it will be a battle to just stay up. Our team has done fantastically well to get us to this level but league 1 is a step too far for some of them and now the momentum of promotion has died down its obvious to see. Over to the Board now. Honeymoon period over. What are you going to do about investment in the team? What are you going to do about our ramshackle ground? Next two months will tell us what they are all about. I suppose we are the new boys in this league up against seasoned old campaigners. The momentum and enthusiasm from last season has swept us along this far, but I think this is where it gets real.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 26, 2016 18:34:35 GMT
Well, in the pub a mile from the ground and will need a few to lift the depression. We utterly dominated that game for the first 20 mins and could have been out of sight yet as seems to always happen at the moment the first meaningful attack the opposition have and its in our net! In the end we probably had 3 times as many attempts on goal as they did yet we somehow lose, and lose to a pretty poor team at that. Defence and keeper are our problems. Both need to be addressed in Jan or it will be a battle to just stay up. Our team has done fantastically well to get us to this level but league 1 is a step too far for some of them and now the momentum of promotion has died down its obvious to see. Over to the Board now. Honeymoon period over. What are you going to do about investment in the team? What are you going to do about our ramshackle ground? Next two months will tell us what they are all about. DC probably already has big squad by Div 1 standards, since promotion he's brought in Roos, Roberts, Hartley, Boateng, Moore, Colkett, Clark-Salter, none of those are really an improvement on last season's players just giving him an open cheque book might not be the answer to our defensive problems.
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Post by rambo on Nov 26, 2016 18:45:28 GMT
Well, in the pub a mile from the ground and will need a few to lift the depression. We utterly dominated that game for the first 20 mins and could have been out of sight yet as seems to always happen at the moment the first meaningful attack the opposition have and its in our net! In the end we probably had 3 times as many attempts on goal as they did yet we somehow lose, and lose to a pretty poor team at that. Defence and keeper are our problems. Both need to be addressed in Jan or it will be a battle to just stay up. Our team has done fantastically well to get us to this level but league 1 is a step too far for some of them and now the momentum of promotion has died down its obvious to see. Over to the Board now. Honeymoon period over. What are you going to do about investment in the team? What are you going to do about our ramshackle ground? Next two months will tell us what they are all about. DC probably already has big squad by Div 1 standards, since promotion he's brought in Roos, Roberts, Hartley, Boateng, Moore, Colkett, Clark-Salter, none of those are really an improvement on last season's players just giving him an open cheque book might not be the answer to our defensive problems. Writing a load of those players off a bit early? Colkett is definitely an improvement on last season, Hartley and JCS are better than parkes and Roberts, Moore and Boateng haven't had enough game time yet to judge.
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Post by socrates on Nov 26, 2016 18:59:33 GMT
The diamond formation is sh**e. We need to play 4-4-2 give bodin and monty a run as wingers. We didn't need to change the formation at half time on Tuesday it f**ked us up, ok we were 2-0 down but Bodin for Moore would have done. Wasn't there today but it sounded much better once bodin came on, he's class he needs a run in the side. We can still win promotion and we can still be relegated there's a long way to go yet but we need to bring in an experienced keeper drop Roos to bench keep Lockyer in the side but not as captain and we desperately more than anything need to replace Mansell, the back four have got no cover. How can you claim the diamond is sh**e if you weren't there today? Fact is a lot of success has come from starting with that formation. I've seen The majority of our performances this season and Oldham aside I can't remember us picking any points playing that way apart from when we've changed it when it hasn't been working. In my opinion it's a formation that doesn't suit us and if we stick with it all season we'll end up in a relegation battle unless we make major changes in the window.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 19:16:33 GMT
Glad I am on holiday next week in the peak district hate to have wasted money coming all this way to watch that performance.seems to be a regular thing in the last few games.1 point from last 4 games is worrying now we will see how good a manager Clarke is
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 26, 2016 19:35:51 GMT
DC probably already has big squad by Div 1 standards, since promotion he's brought in Roos, Roberts, Hartley, Boateng, Moore, Colkett, Clark-Salter, none of those are really an improvement on last season's players just giving him an open cheque book might not be the answer to our defensive problems. Writing a load of those players off a bit early? Colkett is definitely an improvement on last season, Hartley and JCS are better than parkes and Roberts, Moore and Boateng haven't had enough game time yet to judge. I think DC's written most of them off or surely they'd be playing in a team which is shipping goals for fun? Looks like I forgot James as well, as far as Hartley being better than Parkes as a defender I think that one open to debate!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 19:39:03 GMT
Glad I am on holiday next week in the peak district hate to have wasted money coming all this way to watch that performance.seems to be a regular thing in the last few games.1 point from last 4 games is worrying now we will see how good a manager Clarke is and if he steadies the ship and we finish half way im sure you will be the 1st to congratulate him? you wont of course you will say nothing
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Post by socrates on Nov 26, 2016 19:57:13 GMT
Glad I am on holiday next week in the peak district hate to have wasted money coming all this way to watch that performance.seems to be a regular thing in the last few games.1 point from last 4 games is worrying now we will see how good a manager Clarke is That last sentence is a joke right ?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Nov 26, 2016 20:02:07 GMT
Glad I am on holiday next week in the peak district hate to have wasted money coming all this way to watch that performance.seems to be a regular thing in the last few games.1 point from last 4 games is worrying now we will see how good a manager Clarke is That last sentence is a joke right ? Either that or the poster is. What do you reckon?
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