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Post by socrates on Jan 5, 2017 19:33:56 GMT
i think its partly about getting players off the wage bill to make way for signings. the 6 loan players idea has been a disaster as none of them have been able to establish a place in the team and i reckon if he could he would ship roos and james out as well. i see no reason why clubs wouldnt loan us players again,they all got some league 1 experience though i find it funny when people on here get all worried about upsetting the likes of chelsea and swansea etc,they werent good enough so the manager didnt pick them often,good for him. "i think its partly about getting players off the wage bill to make way for signings." Thought we were squillionaires..? Ever heard of the financial fair play rule ?
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Post by paulpirate on Jan 5, 2017 19:36:57 GMT
"i think its partly about getting players off the wage bill to make way for signings." Thought we were squillionaires..? Ever heard of the financial fair play rule ? dont think we're in any danger of breaking that rule unless we sign Ronaldo
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 5, 2017 19:57:45 GMT
Really? "the 6 loan players idea has been a disaster as none of them have been able to establish a place in the team". Ever considered the possibility they were only brought in to push his existing squad to their limits? i think roos and boateng were signed with a view to being 1st choice but have been unable to make an impact and i think dc expected much more from colkett and james but they have been poor although colkett is very young of course. do you think the 8 signings we made this season have done well? So DC wasn't undermined by Wael then if he he expected the loaned players to become first team players??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 20:02:35 GMT
"i think its partly about getting players off the wage bill to make way for signings." Thought we were squillionaires..? Ever heard of the financial fair play rule ? That's the point. It still doesn't affect us till the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 20:37:50 GMT
i think roos and boateng were signed with a view to being 1st choice but have been unable to make an impact and i think dc expected much more from colkett and james but they have been poor although colkett is very young of course. do you think the 8 signings we made this season have done well? So DC wasn't undermined by Wael then if he he expected the loaned players to become first team players?? maybe the players we need or needed are just much too expensive and with wael financing other projects the experienced players we require are out of the owners reach. nothing wael has done with regards to the team,ie recruitment is any different from the what would have happened under higgs unless of course we were facing going into administration. peterbro,gillingham,sheff utd,mk dons,bolton and bradford seem to have much more spending power than us so i assume dc has to try and do a rochdale and build a strong team with limited funds. so if thats the case then "undermining" was the wrong word,maybe i was expecting a "steve lansdown" which is not realistic.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 5, 2017 21:07:23 GMT
I think we all wanted Rovers to live within their means, NH budgeting for 9,000 fans whilst only getting 6,500 though the gates was madness, so matching those teams playing budgets was never going to be achievable whilst we stuck at the Mem. It also doesn't seem DC's style to pay big salaries, as you sense he's trying to build his reputation on being successful whilst working with a limited budget. Perhaps sense the media got carried away with Wael's alleged wealth when in reality there's no signs he is doing a "Lansdown" which doesn't suit Rovers style anyway.
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Post by STRONG,SECURE, STABLE on Jan 6, 2017 0:07:36 GMT
I think the thing people forget is that the difference between now and the NH days is that we now have an actual group of staff, particularly the data, performance and video analysts that will improve our recruitment, if we do sign 4 or 5 and let half a dozen go there will be proof of the thought process behind each in and out. This will make our transfer success so much higher than before and over time it will show on the pitch
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 0:21:31 GMT
I think the thing people forget is that the difference between now and the NH days is that we now have an actual group of staff, particularly the data, performance and video analysts that will improve our recruitment, if we do sign 4 or 5 and let half a dozen go there will be proof of the thought process behind each in and out. This will make our transfer success so much higher than before and over time it will show on the pitch but our recruitment has got worse and city have all that stuff and theres is even worse than ours??
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 6, 2017 0:32:38 GMT
Surely they were brought in due to the lack of recruitment in the Summer I for one can see no other reason why. double promotions test even the best clubs / squads and 32 games before New year. there's 2 reasons, and it took me 4 seconds to think of them
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 6, 2017 0:36:44 GMT
DC now has to earn his money, the squad is getting thinner for various reasons. Maybe our 'poor' form has been because of players being unhappy and have decided to return to there parent clubs so they can go somewhere they can play. Which team in their right mind would loan us players in the future knowing how DC rotates his squad. We now have to sit back and watch Darrell do the business, I for one am confident he can. He indicated in his interview after Charlton that he did not really want to get loans in and would prefer permanent signings. We are always better as a club with our backs against the wall, so hopefully we can replicate this on Saturday. UTG and keep the faith!! yes, poor form oh, isn't that some kind of best home form in the PL & FL in 2016 award over there on the mantelpiece?
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Post by smudge1 on Jan 6, 2017 18:56:52 GMT
DC now has to earn his money, the squad is getting thinner for various reasons. Maybe our 'poor' form has been because of players being unhappy and have decided to return to there parent clubs so they can go somewhere they can play. Which team in their right mind would loan us players in the future knowing how DC rotates his squad. We now have to sit back and watch Darrell do the business, I for one am confident he can. He indicated in his interview after Charlton that he did not really want to get loans in and would prefer permanent signings. We are always better as a club with our backs against the wall, so hopefully we can replicate this on Saturday. UTG and keep the faith!! yes, poor form oh, isn't that some kind of best home form in the PL & FL in 2016 award over there on the mantelpiece? I accept that of course but we play home and away and our form has dropped, that's a fact. However, I trust DC, as he has performed miracles so far. It would not surprise me if we keep a clean sheet tomorrow and McChrystal is MoM. UTG
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Post by STRONG,SECURE, STABLE on Jan 11, 2017 13:35:34 GMT
I think the thing people forget is that the difference between now and the NH days is that we now have an actual group of staff, particularly the data, performance and video analysts that will improve our recruitment, if we do sign 4 or 5 and let half a dozen go there will be proof of the thought process behind each in and out. This will make our transfer success so much higher than before and over time it will show on the pitch but our recruitment has got worse and city have all that stuff and theres is even worse than ours?? To be clear, these people were not employed til late summer, it wasnt active until it was too late for august, but its ready for January so we will see
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 13:51:51 GMT
I think the thing people forget is that the difference between now and the NH days is that we now have an actual group of staff, particularly the data, performance and video analysts that will improve our recruitment, if we do sign 4 or 5 and let half a dozen go there will be proof of the thought process behind each in and out. This will make our transfer success so much higher than before and over time it will show on the pitch I agree Ryan.. I agree.
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Post by baggins on Jan 11, 2017 13:57:05 GMT
I think the thing people forget is that the difference between now and the NH days is that we now have an actual group of staff, particularly the data, performance and video analysts that will improve our recruitment, if we do sign 4 or 5 and let half a dozen go there will be proof of the thought process behind each in and out. This will make our transfer success so much higher than before and over time it will show on the pitch I agree Ryan.. I agree. No you don't. You don't even know what time of day it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 14:00:17 GMT
No you don't. You don't even know what time of day it is. Don't get bitter cause you can't have me baggy. It's not my fault your "worn" x
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Post by Icegas on Jan 11, 2017 15:47:10 GMT
I think the thing people forget is that the difference between now and the NH days is that we now have an actual group of staff, particularly the data, performance and video analysts that will improve our recruitment, if we do sign 4 or 5 and let half a dozen go there will be proof of the thought process behind each in and out. This will make our transfer success so much higher than before and over time it will show on the pitch but our recruitment has got worse and city have all that stuff and theres is even worse than ours?? How can you say our recruitment has got worse when 75% of our current squad that DC brought to the club '2 and half years ago' have won two promotions in a row, and sit 1 point outside the playoffs in league one with 20 odd games to go.. It's clear that DC brought in the loans as he had promised to our double promotion squad a chance at this level and he needed to cover the bases for this first half of the season.While none of those loans proved there real worth,we are still in with a cracking place to push for the playoffs in the coming months. Fergie never got it right with every signing.For every Ronaldo, cantona - there was a Veron or Taibi.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 11, 2017 16:13:53 GMT
but our recruitment has got worse and city have all that stuff and theres is even worse than ours?? How can you say our recruitment has got worse when 75% of our current squad that DC brought to the club '2 and half years ago' have won two promotions in a row, and sit 1 point outside the playoffs in league one with 20 odd games to go.. It's clear that DC brought in the loans as he had promised to our double promotion squad a chance at this level and he needed to cover the bases for this first half of the season.While none of those loans proved there real worth,we are still in with a cracking place to push for the playoffs in the coming months. Fergie never got it right with every signing.For every Ronaldo, cantona - there was a Veron or Taibi. I think that's the point. We managed to recruit League 1 players when we were in the conference, why can't we recruit Prem players now we're in League 1. And the answer is of course, we're a League 1 sized club.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 11, 2017 18:03:57 GMT
but our recruitment has got worse and city have all that stuff and theres is even worse than ours?? How can you say our recruitment has got worse when 75% of our current squad that DC brought to the club '2 and half years ago' have won two promotions in a row, and sit 1 point outside the playoffs in league one with 20 odd games to go.. It's clear that DC brought in the loans as he had promised to our double promotion squad a chance at this level and he needed to cover the bases for this first half of the season.While none of those loans proved there real worth,we are still in with a cracking place to push for the playoffs in the coming months. Fergie never got it right with every signing.For every Ronaldo, cantona - there was a Veron or Taibi. Isn't that the point most players were signed over 2 years ago, this summer's signings were Hartley (not sure he's a better defender than McM? ) Moore (I'd take Monty over him) and James (no comment!) plus all the loan signings who are clearly not considered good enough. I guess the question is, has DC been found out, signings wise, or is he not getting the right backing to bring in better quality players.
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