|
Post by pilninggas on Jan 10, 2017 22:29:15 GMT
So on a serious note, DCs talk about shifting players out a few weeks ago was nonsense. We don't seem to be making any notable signings and we are going with what we've got. The loans have returned, Macca and Manse are getting minutes and we have a smaller, weaker squad than a week ago. " DCs talk about shifting players out a few weeks ago was nonsense." Then...... "The loans have returned"....... Makes sense. Clearly he has evaluated the squad and loans have either been told they won't really feature or that conversation happened with coaches at their parent club and quite properly the loan has been ended early. We've got to trust DC. He must have looked at central midfield, for example, and decide that OliC and Lines are closest to first choice with Colkett and Boateng below them in pecking order. Chelsea and Palace rightly then recalled them. It says quite a bit about players already at the club have kept promising premier league youngsters out of the team. #utg
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 22:31:01 GMT
So on a serious note, DCs talk about shifting players out a few weeks ago was nonsense. We don't seem to be making any notable signings and we are going with what we've got. The loans have returned, Macca and Manse are getting minutes and we have a smaller, weaker squad than a week ago. " DCs talk about shifting players out a few weeks ago was nonsense." Then...... "The loans have returned"....... Too quick to try and prove yourself. How many loans? How many replacements thus far? Since the interview we have been linked with who??
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Jan 10, 2017 22:42:04 GMT
" DCs talk about shifting players out a few weeks ago was nonsense." Then...... "The loans have returned"....... Makes sense. Clearly he has evaluated the squad and loans have either been told they won't really feature or that conversation happened with coaches at their parent club and quite properly the loan has been ended early. We've got to trust DC. He must have looked at central midfield, for example, and decide that OliC and Lines are closest to first choice with Colkett and Boateng below them in pecking order. Chelsea and Palace rightly then recalled them. I t says quite a bit about players already at the club have kept promising premier league youngsters out of the team. #utg It's clearly easier to send loan players back than move on the likes of Gosling, Lawrence & Mansel??
|
|
|
Post by warehamgas on Jan 10, 2017 23:13:15 GMT
I don't really mind if it's last season's team or this season's team so long as it's the best team we have. And at the moment players who've played for us for two and a half seasons are our best team. UTG!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 23:18:41 GMT
I don't really mind if it's last season's team or this season's team so long as it's the best team we have. And at the moment players who've played for us for two and a half seasons are our best team. UTG! Surely Colkett is a better squad member than Lawrence considering our squad depth? We have done remarkably well but if we are to look upwards, there is a need for some players of an improved calibre. It would be nice to see us flex our financial muscles in the market. As it stands we are as active as we were 10 years ago.
|
|
|
Post by warehamgas on Jan 10, 2017 23:35:12 GMT
Yes. Don't disagree that Colkett would be better than Lawrence but if Chelsea have called him back then we have no say in it and one things for sure they wouldn't put up with their player sitting on the bench as much as Lawrence. And I'm not sure he would have got back into the team at the moment. But again there's no denying that you couldn't fault the midfield in our last 4 home games. And you say about flexing our muscles in the transfer market, I hope we only do that if it improves our team and not just to show we can flex our muscles in the transfer market. And I'm not sure January is the best time to do that. I guess we will know in about 3 weeks time! UTG!
|
|
|
Post by Wembley_Gas on Jan 11, 2017 3:28:22 GMT
I don't really mind if it's last season's team or this season's team so long as it's the best team we have. And at the moment players who've played for us for two and a half seasons are our best team. UTG! Surely Colkett is a better squad member than Lawrence considering our squad depth? We have done remarkably well but if we are to look upwards, there is a need for some players of an improved calibre. It would be nice to see us flex our financial muscles in the market. As it stands we are as active as we were 10 years ago. Totally disagree with this. If neither are going to start, then the squad player who is experienced is the better man to adapt to the match situation off the bench and also to impart wisdom and technique to the other members of the squad away from the game itself. A lot of players have said they learnt more off the senior pros at the clubs they were with than from the managers and coaches. I'd rather they learned positional sense and how to strike a decent dead ball, how to keep yourself fit to play into your mid thirties, how to handle big match pressures etc from Lawrence than what beats to listen to, what haircut or tat to get etc from young Colkett. Don't get me wrong, I think you can learn something off of anyone young or old, but the quality and provenance of the senior pro stuff will make our first XI and the up and comers better footballers. Lets take Saturdays game for example, put yourselves in Northampton's shoes. Defender goes down with a match ending injury. You look at your bench. There are no defenders on it but you have Lawrence and Colkett on it...which of them is going to have the experience and has shown the capability to be a makeshift defender?
|
|
|
Post by Wembley_Gas on Jan 11, 2017 3:37:27 GMT
Spot on sir! I'm not sure people are following the same club that I've followed for 40 years!!!? Repeat after me: "Evolution, not Revolution"!!! 😀 There's hardly a lot of evolution going on on the playing front if 8 of the 11 players on Saturday we're with us in the Conference, more like standing stillution, whilst it's brilliant what they've achieved it's obvious from our away performances that we need some more quality in the squad. It'll be interesting to see what happens over the next 3 weeks. Standing stillution would be to continue to play like a conference side and lose the game heavily. Evolution is for those players to have adapted to be able to put together a quality L1 performance and to outperform a side that was conquering all comers at the standard we found ourselves last season. In fact Northampton are much more of an example of standing stillation than we are.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 5:25:29 GMT
Hahaha. Not sure why that made me laugh as much as it did. Ahhh, the days when childrens TV was good. Bring back swap shop She gave me my degree. Shook her hand and she told me to change the world. and now you struggle to change your underpants......where did it all go wrong?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 7:04:25 GMT
Surely Colkett is a better squad member than Lawrence considering our squad depth? We have done remarkably well but if we are to look upwards, there is a need for some players of an improved calibre. It would be nice to see us flex our financial muscles in the market. As it stands we are as active as we were 10 years ago. Totally disagree with this. If neither are going to start, then the squad player who is experienced is the better man to adapt to the match situation off the bench and also to impart wisdom and technique to the other members of the squad away from the game itself. A lot of players have said they learnt more off the senior pros at the clubs they were with than from the managers and coaches. I'd rather they learned positional sense and how to strike a decent dead ball, how to keep yourself fit to play into your mid thirties, how to handle big match pressures etc from Lawrence than what beats to listen to, what haircut or tat to get etc from young Colkett. Don't get me wrong, I think you can learn something off of anyone young or old, but the quality and provenance of the senior pro stuff will make our first XI and the up and comers better footballers. Lets take Saturdays game for example, put yourselves in Northampton's shoes. Defender goes down with a match ending injury. You look at your bench. There are no defenders on it but you have Lawrence and Colkett on it...which of them is going to have the experience and has shown the capability to be a makeshift defender? Fair points. That's a bit of an isolated example though. I would swap Lawrence for Colkett every time given our squad depth. CC has probably played more for us than LL aswell? The fact that CC is a Chelsea scholar means that he probably has some snippets of information here and there for DC and other players aswell. I can't see what LL does to enhance the bench at all? Your example is hardly ever going to happen and he isn't an impact sub or "fresh" legs is he? We have plenty of experience in the camp with Lines, Stewie, Yates, Manse, etc.
|
|
|
Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 11, 2017 7:16:45 GMT
She gave me my degree. Shook her hand and she told me to change the world. and now you struggle to change your underpants......where did it all go wrong? How do you know that?!?
|
|
|
Post by rovers5charlton5 on Jan 11, 2017 7:44:54 GMT
There's hardly a lot of evolution going on on the playing front if 8 of the 11 players on Saturday we're with us in the Conference, more like standing stillution, whilst it's brilliant what they've achieved it's obvious from our away performances that we need some more quality in the squad. It'll be interesting to see what happens over the next 3 weeks. Â Â Standing stillution would be to continue to play like a conference side and lose the game heavily. Evolution is for those players to have adapted to be able to put together a quality L1 performance and to outperform a side that was conquering all comers at the standard we found ourselves last season. In fact Northampton are much more of an example of standing stillation than we are. Don't forget evolution can take millions of years!
|
|
|
Post by slam on Jan 11, 2017 7:52:33 GMT
Standing stillution would be to continue to play like a conference side and lose the game heavily. Evolution is for those players to have adapted to be able to put together a quality L1 performance and to outperform a side that was conquering all comers at the standard we found ourselves last season. In fact Northampton are much more of an example of standing stillation than we are. Don't forget evolution can take millions of years! Just heard that Wael is lining up Charles Darwin as a natural replacement for DC
|
|
|
Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 11, 2017 8:23:17 GMT
Don't forget evolution can take millions of years! Just heard that Wael is lining up Charles Darwin as a natural replacement for DC That's a natural selection.
|
|
|
Post by rovers5charlton5 on Jan 11, 2017 8:31:27 GMT
Don't forget evolution can take millions of years! Just heard that Wael is lining up Charles Darwin as a natural replacement for DC Nah, we don't need competition for the Beard
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Jan 11, 2017 8:35:06 GMT
There's hardly a lot of evolution going on on the playing front if 8 of the 11 players on Saturday we're with us in the Conference, more like standing stillution, whilst it's brilliant what they've achieved it's obvious from our away performances that we need some more quality in the squad. It'll be interesting to see what happens over the next 3 weeks. Standing stillution would be to continue to play like a conference side and lose the game heavily. Evolution is for those players to have adapted to be able to put together a quality L1 performance and to outperform a side that was conquering all comers at the standard we found ourselves last season. In fact Northampton are much more of an example of standing stillation than we are. Those players would have progressed anyway under DC's leadership, there's no evolution taking place with the new players joining the club and that's what this thread is all about. The big issue is what happens if Locks or Lines now pick up an injury, as we have no real back up for them.
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 11, 2017 8:35:41 GMT
Hot on Cardiff website.....
Lambert px + £1m for Ellis Harrison
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 8:43:34 GMT
I don't think DC got any contacts for players other than the 4/5 divisions so he must wait for the left overs. Not too say he hasn't done a great job mine you so far.
|
|
|
Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 11, 2017 9:04:03 GMT
Just heard that Wael is lining up Charles Darwin as a natural replacement for DC Nah, we don't need competition for the Beard [ We would need someone with the right DNA.
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Jan 11, 2017 10:47:41 GMT
I don't think DC got any contacts for players other than the 4/5 divisions so he must wait for the left overs. Not too say he hasn't done a great job mine you so far. Does a manager need contacts though in the modern game which is apparently dominated by agents?
|
|