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Post by lulworthgas on Jan 31, 2017 17:43:58 GMT
To all those who think it's right we should just be happy with settling into life in league one and not worrying about making a challenge now for the championship. For weeks I've kept saying you can't pick and choose when you get promotion. When it's possible you have to go for it with everything you have. The sh** got Taylor because they are in the championship and therefore can pay him more. If we are ever going to be in a position to keep our best players then we have to get there as well. Not in two years or five years or any particular number of years. We f.ckingwell have to get there asap. Never mind consolidation, we have been shafted by them because they knew they could, and we say we're happy to doss around where we are. Well not me. If it's there we have to go for it, and even though it's now much harder, we have to replace him and still go for it. I will never settle for being second best to those bast.rds. Yeah, all you who are happy after 2 promotions, and being 8th in league 1. SHAME ON YOU! Problem is, all our relegations from this division has started with the sale of our leading scorer! We will be ok this season and should stick with what we have. Give Ellis a fair crack at it. Regardless, we will need a new striker in the summer, just not a panic buy which anything today will be.
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Post by long john silver on Jan 31, 2017 18:10:25 GMT
To all those who think it's right we should just be happy with settling into life in league one and not worrying about making a challenge now for the championship. For weeks I've kept saying you can't pick and choose when you get promotion. When it's possible you have to go for it with everything you have. The sh** got Taylor because they are in the championship and therefore can pay him more. If we are ever going to be in a position to keep our best players then we have to get there as well. Not in two years or five years or any particular number of years. We f.ckingwell have to get there asap. Never mind consolidation, we have been shafted by them because they knew they could, and we say we're happy to doss around where we are. Well not me. If it's there we have to go for it, and even though it's now much harder, we have to replace him and still go for it. I will never settle for being second best to those bast.rds. Our infrastructure is the worst in the league by a long way, most league 2 teams boast better facilities than us. I don't think you can blame the owners for prioritising this area over expensive big money signings.
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 31, 2017 18:19:24 GMT
It does make you wonder. Didn't they just sign a Bosnian striker for a couple of million, so why do they need Taylor? Is it just a business move by Landsdown to take the best striker away from your closet business rivals? Exactly that. They don't want or need Matty Taylor. It's just that Ego maniac c*nt Lansdowns attempt at one upmanship. He loves to wave his Willy around shouting "Look at me". Whether it's "Nobody will talk about Rovers anymore", sticking City billboards up in Horfield, Eastville, Filton etc, or the cringeworthy Welcome to Bristol hash tags all over social media. The blokes a bigger c*nt than Matty Taylor, he could see we're catching up and is running scared. Scumbag of a man.
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Post by nailseamark on Jan 31, 2017 18:21:00 GMT
I think we have braught this on ourselves with the lack of ambition showed. Crappy young loans and no investment in the team. If we had been in the playoffs and kept adding to the squad Taylor would probably have stayed seeing our ambition . Still f**k him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 18:25:28 GMT
I think we have braught this on ourselves with the lack of ambition showed. Crappy young loans and no investment in the team. If we had been in the playoffs and kept adding to the squad Taylor would probably have stayed seeing our ambition . Still f**k him. No he wouldn't have.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2017 18:37:28 GMT
To all those who think it's right we should just be happy with settling into life in league one and not worrying about making a challenge now for the championship. For weeks I've kept saying you can't pick and choose when you get promotion. When it's possible you have to go for it with everything you have. The sh** got Taylor because they are in the championship and therefore can pay him more. If we are ever going to be in a position to keep our best players then we have to get there as well. Not in two years or five years or any particular number of years. We f.ckingwell have to get there asap. Never mind consolidation, we have been shafted by them because they knew they could, and we say we're happy to doss around where we are. Well not me. If it's there we have to go for it, and even though it's now much harder, we have to replace him and still go for it. I will never settle for being second best to those bast.rds. Our infrastructure is the worst in the league by a long way, most league 2 teams boast better facilities than us. I don't think you can blame the owners for prioritising this area over expensive big money signings. How much would a replacement like Miller have cost, £250K transfer fee and most likely lower wages than MT was on, given we need to spend about £3m+ on a training ground and £40m/50m at the UWE is that really going to break the bank? We lost Alan Gow and finished up in the Conference losing MT could have a similar effect if we don't get somebody in tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 18:43:08 GMT
It does make you wonder. Didn't they just sign a Bosnian striker for a couple of million, so why do they need Taylor? Is it just a business move by Landsdown to take the best striker away from your closet business rivals? Absolutely right imo.Wouldnt it be great though if we used that money and it helped us mould a squad that was promoted in the next couple of years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 18:48:38 GMT
Our infrastructure is the worst in the league by a long way, most league 2 teams boast better facilities than us. I don't think you can blame the owners for prioritising this area over expensive big money signings. How much would a replacement like Miller have cost, £250K transfer fee and most likely lower wages than MT was on, given we need to spend about £3m+ on a training ground and £40m/50m at the UWE is that really going to break the bank? We lost Alan Gow and finished up in the Conference losing MT could have a similar effect if we don't get somebody in tonight. LMFAO! Yeah losing Gow was the reason we got relegated to the conference!!
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Post by long john silver on Jan 31, 2017 18:53:21 GMT
Our infrastructure is the worst in the league by a long way, most league 2 teams boast better facilities than us. I don't think you can blame the owners for prioritising this area over expensive big money signings. How much would a replacement like Miller have cost, £250K transfer fee and most likely lower wages than MT was on, given we need to spend about £3m+ on a training ground and £40m/50m at the UWE is that really going to break the bank? We lost Alan Gow and finished up in the Conference losing MT could have a similar effect if we don't get somebody in tonight. Alan Dam gow !!!!! Hahahaha and yes 250k will break the bank if you haven't got it.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 31, 2017 18:56:23 GMT
It does make you wonder. Didn't they just sign a Bosnian striker for a couple of million, so why do they need Taylor? Is it just a business move by Landsdown to take the best striker away from your closet business rivals? That's exactly what it is. This has Lansdown written all over it the rosy cheeked big nosed lady garden.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 31, 2017 18:57:57 GMT
Our infrastructure is the worst in the league by a long way, most league 2 teams boast better facilities than us. I don't think you can blame the owners for prioritising this area over expensive big money signings. How much would a replacement like Miller have cost, £250K transfer fee and most likely lower wages than MT was on, given we need to spend about £3m+ on a training ground and £40m/50m at the UWE is that really going to break the bank? We lost Alan Gow and finished up in the Conference losing MT could have a similar effect if we don't get somebody in tonight. If you think Gow would have kept us up them I'm genuinely flabbergasted.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 18:59:21 GMT
How much would a replacement like Miller have cost, £250K transfer fee and most likely lower wages than MT was on, given we need to spend about £3m+ on a training ground and £40m/50m at the UWE is that really going to break the bank? We lost Alan Gow and finished up in the Conference losing MT could have a similar effect if we don't get somebody in tonight. LMFAO! Yeah losing Gow was the reason we got relegated to the conference!! it was the reason wasn't it? At least that's what I kept telling myself during those dark days lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 19:00:14 GMT
Another classic Topper, keep rolling em out me old fruit
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Post by justin blue on Jan 31, 2017 19:18:03 GMT
To all those who think it's right we should just be happy with settling into life in league one and not worrying about making a challenge now for the championship. For weeks I've kept saying you can't pick and choose when you get promotion. When it's possible you have to go for it with everything you have. The sh** got Taylor because they are in the championship and therefore can pay him more. If we are ever going to be in a position to keep our best players then we have to get there as well. Not in two years or five years or any particular number of years. We f.ckingwell have to get there asap. Never mind consolidation, we have been shafted by them because they knew they could, and we say we're happy to doss around where we are. Well not me. If it's there we have to go for it, and even though it's now much harder, we have to replace him and still go for it. I will never settle for being second best to those bast.rds. Can't dissagree that we should show ambition and go all out to get promoted, but it is not the reason Taylor is joining the S**t. He probably joined them because they are in a higher league now and sadly there is nothing we can do about that at this time.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2017 19:22:54 GMT
How much would a replacement like Miller have cost, £250K transfer fee and most likely lower wages than MT was on, given we need to spend about £3m+ on a training ground and £40m/50m at the UWE is that really going to break the bank? We lost Alan Gow and finished up in the Conference losing MT could have a similar effect if we don't get somebody in tonight. Alan f**king gow !!!!! Hahahaha and yes 250k will break the bank if you haven't got it. How can we have no money when we're planning to hand over millions to the UWE and for the Almondsbury land? I never said Gow would have kept us up but losing him meant we lost somebody who could create goals, having also lost Richards. If Ellis goes back into his shell we've only got BB who knows how to score.
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Post by gasincider on Jan 31, 2017 20:10:02 GMT
Shame on all settlers out there. Happy after two promotions etc..... Part of a great recent history. Counts for nowt into the future. If it did perhaps MT would still be here.Any decent players joining us will want to know what ambition we have, not replay past glories. They got him because of Lansdowns money......... Even Burton could pay him a lot more than us. Why? Because they get £6m per year tv money. Chuck money at it? Not said by me, I'm talking about people on here settling for what we have. If our owners gave the same level of commitment then DC will be the next one to leave. So go for it. If we make it I presume some on here won't bother going because we will only come straight back down. Will we? We don't have the infrastructure......... Nor do Burton, Rotherham, AFC Bournemouth. But they didn't wait around till they got it. Even Rotherham can only get 12000 in. Meanwhile they have benefitted from a far higher turnover than us. If we don't get UWE, will you settle for our present level hereonin? Think about it. One of the major moans by fans at our level is that teams further up the food chain can steal players from teams like us. So my query is, if we are going to remain at our current level, why develop a training ground? You can train in an empty field for far less cost. Infrastructure is an evolving issue, but is greatly enhanced by additional tv revenues. The only way to stop a lot of this poaching of better players is to maintain your ambition and go for it. I just can't believe anyone can possibly believe that we can get promoted too soon. And please stop basking in the glory of recent success. It was all fantastic, but as it says on the tin, it's in the past. Even I play the videos back and love them. But they have no bearing on the future unless we keep the ambition burning. If championship football is such a cash cow, then why are all the clubs in debt? That's easy. Not all of them are in debt.
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Post by lulworthgas on Jan 31, 2017 20:28:02 GMT
I think we have braught this on ourselves with the lack of ambition showed. Crappy young loans and no investment in the team. If we had been in the playoffs and kept adding to the squad Taylor would probably have stayed seeing our ambition . Still f**k him. No he wouldn't have. Thinking about it, the reason he went back on his handshake with oxford was down to either a release clause with too big a figure, or no release clause at all. His signing on fee at the sh** has probably ensured that he won't have to work after his football career. Especially with his agent getting Cardiff sniffing around too.
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Post by faggotygas on Jan 31, 2017 20:59:47 GMT
If championship football is such a cash cow, then why are all the clubs in debt? That's easy. Not all of them are in debt. OK, almost all, with a total debt of around a billion pounds as I understand it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 21:34:09 GMT
You've been waiting for some bad news to spring up and shout "I told you so".
I am not going to let one player wanting to leave for more money anything other than an unpreventable occurance.
I get the feeling we were told at very short notice and I wasn't too dissatisfied with some young additions. All have looked better than what we had and not a journeyman in sight.
It's tempting to point fingers and blame but we are having to operate differently to before. Remember we were broke? We couldn't even afford the no hopers that got us relagated twice. We could go and sign big money players like we signed Regan, Wright and blizzard? Or Matt Gill, Gary Kenneth, JJ o toole, JK4? or players like Hughes who if I remember correctly said he came here because the money was good?
You build hollow clubs with panic big money players. What's more is we need to pay an even bigger premium as we play in a dump. Did you not long for the days of raising players like Barry Hayles or David Pritchard from non league when we had to endure Adam "million pound transfer in 1983" Virgo up front?
The list of brilliant "nobodies" is endless: virtually the entire 89/90 promotion squad and the current squad minus that judas piece of sh** who is forever etched from our memory.
What DC is bringing in is decent young players who want to play. We will get the experience at the end of the year.
If you subtract the weasel leaving, I was almost happy with the signings. Sweeney looks great and the keeper looks pretty good too. Let's not judge on names and wages. Let DC do his thing. Overall, for gods sake don't turn in on manager and owner for this. This was sprung by him on deadline day. Working on the assumption we had him on the wage bill, it would have been dumb to buy another striker on 3k a week. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and I say stick together.
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