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Post by baggins on Feb 10, 2017 12:59:23 GMT
It's probably down the back of the sofa.
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Post by peterparker on Feb 10, 2017 13:01:24 GMT
Countersignaturies? In the notice for the AGM details are given of meetings held (7) during the year and of attendance. Surely the Treasurer presents a report at each meeting? Minutes, I hope, are kept giving details of what is agreed and voted through. Unless there is a simple explanation for this scenario it is a serious situation. It's the fans' money we're talking about! you would like to think/hope it is as simple as they gave it to the football club and simply forgot, but that's just wishful thinking
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Post by Marshy on Feb 10, 2017 13:16:57 GMT
It's probably down the back of the sofa. Could be? I think someone's bet 150k on Red and Black came up! What silly fycker would bet Red? Wait a minute it was Judas!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 13:31:29 GMT
When a club is owned by multimillionaires what is the logic in a volunteer setup handing money over to the club ? If the monies handed over represent the SC's 8% worth of annual investment to match those of the other 92% then fair enough. So long as the equivalent amount of asset value is assigned to the SC should a sale go through. Obviously the money handed over is supplemented by the free labour given. As to the missing money...lets hope the culprit are held accountable and also other people at the sc look at their own positions and see how that can change to ensure better transparency and safety.
The SC is a great organisation ,is the thought we still need to keep in our minds when looking into the whole thing.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 10, 2017 14:26:06 GMT
When a club is owned by multimillionaires what is the logic in a volunteer setup handing money over to the club ? I guess that's what someone else thought, too.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 10, 2017 14:32:11 GMT
When a club is owned by multimillionaires what is the logic in a volunteer setup handing money over to the club ?If the monies handed over represent the SC's 8% worth of annual investment to match those of the other 92% then fair enough. So long as the equivalent amount of asset value is assigned to the SC should a sale go through. Obviously the money handed over is supplemented by the free labour given. As to the missing money...lets hope the culprit are held accountable and also other people at the sc look at their own positions and see how that can change to ensure better transparency and safety.
The SC is a great organisation ,is the thought we still need to keep in our minds when looking into the whole thing. Did that money ever get there ?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 10, 2017 15:56:05 GMT
Countersignaturies? In the notice for the AGM details are given of meetings held (7) during the year and of attendance. Surely the Treasurer presents a report at each meeting? Minutes, I hope, are kept giving details of what is agreed and voted through. Unless there is a simple explanation for this scenario it is a serious situation. It's the fans' money we're talking about! you would like to think/hope it is as simple as they gave it to the football club and simply forgot, but that's just wishful thinking Do the police normally investigate things people forget?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 10, 2017 16:06:42 GMT
you would like to think/hope it is as simple as they gave it to the football club and simply forgot, but that's just wishful thinking Do the police normally investigate things people forget? Tammy forgot he was a knob who couldn't drive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 16:08:06 GMT
you would like to think/hope it is as simple as they gave it to the football club and simply forgot, but that's just wishful thinking Do the police normally investigate things people forget? They investigated when I forgot to stop my car when my mother in law crossed the road.
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Post by gasincider on Feb 10, 2017 16:17:55 GMT
These figures as Severncider said are up to June last year. It is quite obvious that this has been known about at least since November as that is when the AGM should have taken place. So for all we know the money, or at least some part of it has been recouped.
By the way, for those on here who demand an explanation over and above certain limits, either go to the AGM or stay quiet. If the police tell you to say nothing, you say nothing. My bet is that most of the moaners on here probably are not members. If you were I guess you would be a little more respectful.
It is obvious that we will have the right to ask what safeguards were or were not in place with regard to the operation of the various accounts, and this will come out in due course.
We all know that some on here are better at running the supporters club. So here is your chance. ANY VOLUNTEERS?
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Post by aghast on Feb 10, 2017 16:21:27 GMT
www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/club-statement-bristol-rovers-supporters-club-3568048.aspxClub Statement: Officials of Bristol Rovers Football Club were shocked to learn of the news’ posted on the Bristol Rovers Supporters Club website this morning, which stated that there is an ongoing police investigation into the misappropriation of that organisation's funds. Whilst the Board of Directors of the Football Club has every sympathy with the Supporters Club Committee, we feel it necessary to state that the two organisations are independent bodies. Bristol Rovers Supporters Club does sell tickets and leisurewear on behalf of the Football Club and raises funds, via matchday 50/50 ticket sales, for the Bristol Rovers Academy. All references to the misappropriation of funds contained in this morning's statement relate only to Bristol Rovers Supporters Club and not Bristol Rovers Football Club.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 10, 2017 16:34:30 GMT
Officials of Bristol Rovers Football Club were shocked to learn of the news’ posted on the Bristol Rovers Supporters Club website this morning, ... Is it just me who would have expected a slightly closer working relationship than this?
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Post by countygroundhotel on Feb 10, 2017 16:35:44 GMT
Surely the missing money is just the deposit Jim had to put down for the open top bus ......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 16:37:26 GMT
Officials of Bristol Rovers Football Club were shocked to learn of the news’ posted on the Bristol Rovers Supporters Club website this morning, ... Is it just me who would have expected a slightly closer working relationship than this? I was hoping that they were shocked of the news when they were told about it and that news has now been posted on the SC website.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 16:39:57 GMT
Officials of Bristol Rovers Football Club were shocked to learn of the news’ posted on the Bristol Rovers Supporters Club website this morning, ... Is it just me who would have expected a slightly closer working relationship than this? Possibly, but things like the SC statement in the summer after promotion means I'm not surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 16:43:43 GMT
Is that the 152k debtors figure? Seems a massive amount for a supporters club with annual turnover of 150k That's the figure which jumps off the page. It was cash in the bank last year and now it is owed to the supporters club. I wonder who has borrowed it? edit: I assume those funds were the proceeds from the sale of the Kingswood shop which they leased back? The cash held at bank has gone down from £152K to £4k and for some reason the club is owed (debtor) £152K. This seems very odd unless the amount owed is wholly or in part the money gone missing, if that's the case then it would suggest the supporters club think it can be recovered otherwise the amount should be written-off as a loss. If they can't recover the £152K owed then there are real problems so I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by peterparker on Feb 10, 2017 16:52:55 GMT
These figures as Severncider said are up to June last year. It is quite obvious that this has been known about at least since November as that is when the AGM should have taken place. So for all we know the money, or at least some part of it has been recouped. By the way, for those on here who demand an explanation over and above certain limits, either go to the AGM or stay quiet. If the police tell you to say nothing, you say nothing. My bet is that most of the moaners on here probably are not members. If you were I guess you would be a little more respectful. It is obvious that we will have the right to ask what safeguards were or were not in place with regard to the operation of the various accounts, and this will come out in due course. We all know that some on here are better at running the supporters club. So here is your chance. ANY VOLUNTEERS? If some or all of it had been recouped, I would have thought that would have been mentioned in the statement
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 16:53:47 GMT
That's the figure which jumps off the page. It was cash in the bank last year and now it is owed to the supporters club. I wonder who has borrowed it? edit: I assume those funds were the proceeds from the sale of the Kingswood shop which they leased back? The cash held at bank has gone down from £152K to £4k and for some reason the club is owed (debtor) £152K. This seems very odd unless the amount owed is wholly or in part the money gone missing, if that's the case then it would suggest the supporters club think it can be recovered otherwise the amount should be written-off as a loss. If they can't recover the £152K owed then there are real problems so I hope I'm wrong. I wouldn't have thought they could write it off until the legal enquiry ends or it goes to court where a proceeds of crime order could be made and assets seized from the person responsible. As somebody else said earlier, the accounts are up until the middle of last year so things could have changed and we await an update at the AGM and yes I am a member of the SC.
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Post by peterparker on Feb 10, 2017 16:55:38 GMT
you would like to think/hope it is as simple as they gave it to the football club and simply forgot, but that's just wishful thinking Do the police normally investigate things people forget? To be fair BRSCs statement says a "probable misappropriation of funds" so i guess a slim chance it has simply been 'misplaced'
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Post by pirate49 on Feb 10, 2017 17:09:55 GMT
'Probable' rather than 'possible'!
I don't get this 'If you're not prepared to volunteer and do the job yourself then pipe down' attitude.
You don't just elect people then sit back without scrutiny of what they are doing.
We're talking £150,000 and police involvement.
I don't see how the accounts can possibly be approved whilst this dark cloud hovers above them.
There would be a case for a vote of 'No Confidence' if the systems of accountability have not been in place.
And I am a member of the SC, and have been for many years.
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