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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 18:45:54 GMT
Well, I just broke a promise never to go on their site but the venom towards not only squeaky but also SL is incredible. I do understand the anger at managers as they are the sharp end of the stick but to be so vile to a bloke that has bankrolled ( autocorrect wanted bankrupt lol) them and got them a new stadium is out of order as I see it but this is the 82. I was genuinely shocked at the rage at the owner. Wehad stuff with Higgs but we had many back him still whereas they don't. They want him gone too ffs. Just when you think you have seen them at their worst I wasn't that vitriolic about Higgs but those of us who did had very solid reasoning to question him. We underachieved over a long period of time. City, putting their unrealistic self view aside, are a L1/champ side, with more L1 than champ historically. The issue is they think they are so much more, so even a billionaire who lavishes them with riches is still rejected, like a spoilt kid who wanted 21 gears on his bike, not 18. We're just happy our BMX hasn't been nicked.
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Post by Okebournegas on Feb 24, 2017 19:39:32 GMT
Pep has to be one of the most overated managers of all time along with mourhino I disagree about Mourhino. He's won leagues at different clubs, in different countries. He's also had success at a relatively small club. Pep I agree, is over-rated though. Granted mourinho has won leagues in different countries but the teams he has managed have always either had millions at their disposal or an established team competing for titles , I have always been of the opinion that if mourhino went to someone like an Everton , Tottenham , or even Liverpool he would struggle as they are a bit more frugal with their spending ( well not Everton so much these days ). Don't get me wrong he's a good manager and i think he will probably win the league with Utd next year , but yet again he would of spent millions to achieve it .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 20:55:02 GMT
If you lose lots of games you get the sack nowadays anywhere except possibly bristol city. if we finish 9th and next season lose 8 of our opening 12 games dc will get the sack,simple,thats how it is right or wrong.
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Post by aghast on Feb 24, 2017 20:59:54 GMT
If you lose lots of games you get the sack nowadays anywhere except possibly bristol city. if we finish 9th and next season lose 8 of our opening 12 games dc will get the sack,simple,thats how it is right or wrong. So if we have 12 points from 12 games Wael will sack DC? He is one bad muthachuffka then.
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Post by miamigas on Feb 24, 2017 21:08:23 GMT
If you lose lots of games you get the sack nowadays anywhere except possibly bristol city. if we finish 9th and next season lose 8 of our opening 12 games dc will get the sack,simple,thats how it is right or wrong. Yeah but there's a possibility that next season we could be in the Championship and the shiite could be in the division below us. Highly improbable I know but you'd love that wouldn't you? Can I have a simple "Yes" or "No"? Yes or No? UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 22:01:01 GMT
If you lose lots of games you get the sack nowadays anywhere except possibly bristol city. if we finish 9th and next season lose 8 of our opening 12 games dc will get the sack,simple,thats how it is right or wrong. Yeah but there's a possibility that next season we could be in the Championship and the shiite could be in the division below us. Highly improbable I know but you'd love that wouldn't you? Can I have a simple "Yes" or "No"? Yes or No? UTG! yes,thats why i keep banging on about us not replacing taylor!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 22:03:48 GMT
If you lose lots of games you get the sack nowadays anywhere except possibly bristol city. if we finish 9th and next season lose 8 of our opening 12 games dc will get the sack,simple,thats how it is right or wrong. So if we have 12 points from 12 games Wael will sack DC? He is one bad muthachuffka then. If we win 2 draw 2 and lose 8 he will get the sack just like everywhere else,thats how it works or havnt you noticed? Thats why unless dc gets a good budget he will look to move on and up
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 24, 2017 22:54:59 GMT
I disagree about Mourhino. He's won leagues at different clubs, in different countries. He's also had success at a relatively small club. Pep I agree, is over-rated though. Granted mourinho has won leagues in different countries but the teams he has managed have always either had millions at their disposal or an established team competing for titles , I have always been of the opinion that if mourhino went to someone like an Everton , Tottenham , or even Liverpool he would struggle as they are a bit more frugal with their spending ( well not Everton so much these days ). Don't get me wrong he's a good manager and i think he will probably win the league with Utd next year , but yet again he would of spent millions to achieve it . Mourinho won The Champions League with Porto. They didn't have endless funds, certainly nowhere near the funds the likes of Barca, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Chelsea and Manchester United(Who Porto knocked out in the last 16) had at their disposal. Likewise Inter didn't have the same funds as the other major clubs in Europe had, but Mourinho also won the Champions League there too. All the top managers are at clubs with huge resources or competing for titles whether it be Mourinho, Ancelotti, Allegri, Guardiola or Conte, because they've done the hard graft and that's who the bigger/richer clubs want as their managers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 23:01:12 GMT
Also Mourinho took a club with low resources in Portugal to their highest ever league finish in the top flight before he was poached by Porto, they're now in the third tier.
Think he could deal with the less glamorous side of football for sure.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Feb 24, 2017 23:24:56 GMT
To say that Ranieri didn't achieve anything in his managerial career is to be disingenuous, mischievous or ignorant. Fans of Cagliari, Leicester, Monaco and even Chelsea saw their clubs make giant strides under him. The tag of nearly man was a cruel and unjust one for him, which he must have thought he had shrugged off with last season's miracle. Feel very sad for him, especially when his team are still in with a fighting chance of making the Champions league quarter finals.
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Post by Okebournegas on Feb 25, 2017 0:20:25 GMT
Granted mourinho has won leagues in different countries but the teams he has managed have always either had millions at their disposal or an established team competing for titles , I have always been of the opinion that if mourhino went to someone like an Everton , Tottenham , or even Liverpool he would struggle as they are a bit more frugal with their spending ( well not Everton so much these days ). Don't get me wrong he's a good manager and i think he will probably win the league with Utd next year , but yet again he would of spent millions to achieve it . Mourinho won The Champions League with Porto. They didn't have endless funds, certainly nowhere near the funds the likes of Barca, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Chelsea and Manchester United(Who Porto knocked out in the last 16) had at their disposal. Likewise Inter didn't have the same funds as the other major clubs in Europe had, but Mourinho also won the Champions League there too. All the top managers are at clubs with huge resources or competing for titles whether it be Mourinho, Ancelotti, Allegri, Guardiola or Conte, because they've done the hard graft and that's who the bigger/richer clubs want as their managers. You raise some good points but I still stand by my opinion and we will have to agree to disagree. Guardiola or mourinho wouldn't cut the mustard at Lower to mid table prem teams as they spend money like its going out of fashion.
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Post by Okebournegas on Feb 25, 2017 0:21:40 GMT
Also Mourinho took a club with low resources in Portugal to their highest ever league finish in the top flight before he was poached by Porto, they're now in the third tier. Think he could deal with the less glamorous side of football for sure. So you think mourinho could've won the league with Leicester? I honestly don't think so .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 11:26:32 GMT
Also Mourinho took a club with low resources in Portugal to their highest ever league finish in the top flight before he was poached by Porto, they're now in the third tier. Think he could deal with the less glamorous side of football for sure. So you think mourinho could've won the league with Leicester? I honestly don't think so . Haha possibly not, how many could? By that I mean I'm sure Mourinho could go to a smaller club and do okay, he's shown he can do it with (mainly with) or without the budgets. To think otherwise ignores the early part of his career, he didn't just become a manager of a top club in Europe.
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Post by Okebournegas on Feb 25, 2017 11:45:43 GMT
So you think mourinho could've won the league with Leicester? I honestly don't think so . Haha possibly not, how many could? By that I mean I'm sure Mourinho could go to a smaller club and do okay, he's shown he can do it with (mainly with) or without the budgets. To think otherwise ignores the early part of his career, he didn't just become a manager of a top club in Europe. Good points made , UTG !!!!
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