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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 11:53:27 GMT
We didn't have any success this season ( playoffs/promotion) so you have your answer. 10th in league 1 for bristol rovers after our recent history is a massive success,also it was about match 43 out of 46 when it became likely we wouldnt reach the play-offs so a 3rd promotion was possible until then. 10th in league one is Rovers natural position through the years. So 10th this season isn't success its, our natural position
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Post by baggins on May 2, 2017 12:00:01 GMT
10th in league 1 for bristol rovers after our recent history is a massive success,also it was about match 43 out of 46 when it became likely we wouldnt reach the play-offs so a 3rd promotion was possible until then. 10th in league one is Rovers natural position through the years. So 10th this season isn't success its, our natural position Not quite sure if I should be happy or upset at that one.
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Post by Marshy on May 2, 2017 12:16:24 GMT
10th in league one is Rovers natural position through the years. So 10th this season isn't success its, our natural position Not quite sure if I should be happy or upset at that one. Its a success in my eyes when you consider who we were playing a couple of years ago? It still gives me the shits now just thinking about it!
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Post by baggins on May 2, 2017 12:26:05 GMT
Not quite sure if I should be happy or upset at that one. Its a success in my eyes when you consider who we were playing a couple of years ago? It still gives me the shits now just thinking about it! That season in the Conference is enough to bring on nightmares. The grounds, the pitches, the referees and linesmen, and then to go up and do it all again and unbelievably do it! Wow. Anyone upset at finishing this season in 10th, well, you need help.
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Post by seanclevedongas on May 2, 2017 12:40:59 GMT
Its a success in my eyes when you consider who we were playing a couple of years ago? It still gives me the shits now just thinking about it! That season in the Conference is enough to bring on nightmares. The grounds, the pitches, the referees and linesmen, and then to go up and do it all again and unbelievably do it! Wow. Anyone upset at finishing this season in 10th, well, you need help. That season was great fun, the grounds the people the accessibility of the squad - don't want to do it again mind but defo fun while we were there.
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Post by baggins on May 2, 2017 12:54:02 GMT
That season in the Conference is enough to bring on nightmares. The grounds, the pitches, the referees and linesmen, and then to go up and do it all again and unbelievably do it! Wow. Anyone upset at finishing this season in 10th, well, you need help. That season was great fun, the grounds the people the accessibility of the squad - don't want to do it again mind but defo fun while we were there. Agreed. But thank God we're not there anymore.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 2, 2017 12:54:32 GMT
10th in league one is Rovers natural position through the years. So 10th this season isn't success its, our natural position Not quite sure if I should be happy or upset at that one. SO would you say our natural position is always below the sh** ?
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Post by baggins on May 2, 2017 12:55:22 GMT
Not quite sure if I should be happy or upset at that one. SO would you say our natural position is always below the sh** ? Who?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 16:02:18 GMT
10th in league 1 for bristol rovers after our recent history is a massive success,also it was about match 43 out of 46 when it became likely we wouldnt reach the play-offs so a 3rd promotion was possible until then. 10th in league one is Rovers natural position through the years. So 10th this season isn't success its, our natural position In the 1970"s and 80"s maybe but this is our highest position for about 16 years. But if you think its not a success thats fine.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 17:10:37 GMT
Anybody know the average away crowd at the Mem this season ? Season ticket sales will determine whether this seasons home average is beat next season...obvious but true. I make it an average of 584 away fans per lge game (13,426 fans overall), but that's just me trying to keep a tally via match reports, then using a pen & calulator. Only Oxford & Millwall sold out their allocation I believe.
So is there a case for trying to increase the numbers of away fans at games ? or is this not something beneficial to the club ? Can ticket prices be adjusted for mileage ? Can Rovers market the game in other regions ?
Good away followings always make for better atmospheres at a ground
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 18:36:21 GMT
I make it an average of 584 away fans per lge game (13,426 fans overall), but that's just me trying to keep a tally via match reports, then using a pen & calulator. Only Oxford & Millwall sold out their allocation I believe.
So is there a case for trying to increase the numbers of away fans at games ? or is this not something beneficial to the club ? Can ticket prices be adjusted for mileage ? Can Rovers market the game in other regions ?
Good away followings always make for better atmospheres at a ground
The only way to increase the away attendance would be to give them the whole South stand, considering only 3? teams sold out this season, it would be financial suicide to do so.
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Post by Jon the Stripe on May 2, 2017 18:42:16 GMT
Not quite sure if I should be happy or upset at that one. SO would you say our natural position is always below the sh** ? I tried working this out a few years back and if i remember rightly we averaged 51st place, City 35th throughout our history Henbury
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Post by Topper Gas on May 2, 2017 18:57:36 GMT
So is there a case for trying to increase the numbers of away fans at games ? or is this not something beneficial to the club ? Can ticket prices be adjusted for mileage ? Can Rovers market the game in other regions ?
Good away followings always make for better atmospheres at a ground
The only way to increase the away attendance would be to give them the whole South stand, considering only 3? teams sold out this season, it would be financial suicide to do so. I assume MMM means try and increase attendances for the lower supported clubs not for the likes of Millwall etc, it's an interesting point as I was surprised how few fans Walsall brought as an example, could we have attracted more of them with an offer of some kind i.e. reduced prices, a free pasty/pie or similar, or would we still get the same turn out of away fans and so lose money? As far as "tourist fans" I suggest somebody tells Wael to scrap the UWE stadium as we don't want an extra 5,000/10,000 tourists spoiling it, let's just stay a middle table Div 1 team for the "genuine" fans in order to keep BB happy!!
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 19:12:44 GMT
The only way to increase the away attendance would be to give them the whole South stand, considering only 3? teams sold out this season, it would be financial suicide to do so. I assume MMM means try and increase attendances for the lower supported clubs not for the likes of Millwall etc, it's an interesting point as I was surprised how few fans Walsall brought as an example, could we have attracted more of them with an offer of some kind i.e. reduced prices, a free pasty/pie or similar, or would we still get the same turn out of away fans and so lose money? As far as "tourist fans" I suggest somebody tells Wael to scrap the UWE stadium as we don't want an extra 5,000/10,000 tourists spoiling it, let's just stay a middle table Div 1 team for the "genuine" fans in order to keep BB happy!! Ah, I misread him. I thought he wanted to see the away numbers increased like for Sheff Utd. But reading your post it sounds correct.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 2, 2017 19:25:13 GMT
I cant believe I'm having to agree with and defend Bluebutterfly!!
He is spot on, it's been a whole generation if not longer since we played and held our own comfortably in this division.
We have also had 3 years of almost unequalled home form.
That sort of thing has a massive impact on attendance and season ticket sales.
Very few people are failing to renew season tickets again this year because they fully expect to enjoy watching Rovers now.
If poor home form becomes the norm again you can expect a drop in sales.
I think it's harsh to call them success tourists, but I have to be honest, my money is too scarce and my time too precious that I'd have to say I'm one of them.
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Post by lmgas on May 2, 2017 19:52:12 GMT
Agree, when time and money are at a premium then you can only go to so many games, if Rovers are doing well then I'll put myself out and make the sacrifice - rearrange work, "negotiate" family commitments. Call me a glory hunter if you like but I've been following rovers nearly thirty years and am always tuned in if I can't be there - and I can tell you there's been more pain than glory in that time!
You can't be a Rovers fans and be a glory hunter, that is, unless you also "support" one of those premier league businesses.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 23:00:53 GMT
So is there a case for trying to increase the numbers of away fans at games ? or is this not something beneficial to the club ? Can ticket prices be adjusted for mileage ? Can Rovers market the game in other regions ?
Good away followings always make for better atmospheres at a ground
The only way to increase the away attendance would be to give them the whole South stand, considering only 3? teams sold out this season, it would be financial suicide to do so. No that would be to increase the amount of tickets available .I am asking is there a way of getting more people to come to the mem from away teams across the season not just letting certain games boost the average.
Maybe the question is better asked in a different way..... Rovers fans who travel to away games {not those who travel to all games} what are the things that persuade you to go to certain matches ?
distance ? quality of stadium? top table clubs ? traditional bigger clubs ? wanting to see a town/city you visit ? attraction of seeing certain players in oppositions team ?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 23:36:04 GMT
I cant believe I'm having to agree with and defend Bluebutterfly!! He is spot on, it's been a whole generation if not longer since we played and held our own comfortably in this division. We have also had 3 years of almost unequalled home form. That sort of thing has a massive impact on attendance and season ticket sales. Very few people are failing to renew season tickets again this year because they fully expect to enjoy watching Rovers now. If poor home form becomes the norm again you can expect a drop in sales. I think it's harsh to call them success tourists, but I have to be honest, my money is too scarce and my time too precious that I'd have to say I'm one of them. Thanks mate
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Post by markczgas on May 4, 2017 19:31:44 GMT
9,300 average home attendance is very very good, we were probably only in a playoff position for 6 weeks too ?? I also thought attendances held up well even after some poor away results.
The football we played this season was very good to watch - well done DC. I'm relieved that DC stuck with 2 up top for all the games ( I think) this season. I think Gasheads appreciate this after the horror-formations Ward inflicted on the team. I felt down when Taylor left but I was surprised how we still took the game to teams at home - in fact we started to net lots of early goals after he left with some excellent open attacking play from the first whistle. Looking forward to next season.
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Post by oldgas on May 10, 2017 6:54:13 GMT
Sorry to bring this topic back, but I couldn't find the thread on the budget and didn't want to start another budget thread.
I was reading Teletext last evening and there was an item about Oxford. Their chairman was quoted as saying they had a top 12 budget last season. And were going for a top 6 for next.
This surprised me for a number of reasons. I'm pretty sure their average attendance was below ours last season. It can't be any cheaper to live in the Thames Valley area than Bristol, in fact I'm pretty sure it's more expensive as a result of being commuter belt land for London. Therefore they would have to pay more per player than us. Finally, I don't believe Oxford own the Kassam stadium, so aren't able to benefit from non-match day income, etc etc.
Taking all of the above into account, how could Oxford manage a higher budget, and even consider an even higher one for next season without going massively into debt?
Seems unsustainable to me.
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