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Post by gasheadbatesy on May 14, 2017 17:58:53 GMT
and will you care when there is no place in the league for 'our' team when the EFL comprises all Premier and Championship reserve and youth teams? 'Our team' is all i care about - why did you use inverted commas as if to quote me ? Ditto. I only care about my team. And how my teams future is looking increasingly un certain.
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Post by knowall on May 14, 2017 19:57:32 GMT
and will you care when there is no place in the league for 'our' team when the EFL comprises all Premier and Championship reserve and youth teams? 'Our team' is all i care about - why did you use inverted commas as if to quote me ? because it is 'our' 'my' team as well
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on May 14, 2017 20:14:34 GMT
'Our team' is all i care about - why did you use inverted commas as if to quote me ? Ditto. I only care about my team. And how my teams future is looking increasingly un certain. Future is blue and white
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on May 14, 2017 20:16:56 GMT
'Our team' is all i care about - why did you use inverted commas as if to quote me ? because it is 'our' 'my' team as well That clears it up
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Post by gasheadbatesy on May 14, 2017 20:25:15 GMT
The futures sh**e if you back this sh** comp.
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Post by philbemmygas on May 15, 2017 7:02:29 GMT
Oh how we love close season, very little of substance to talk about so we can rant about something.
Pretty certain the Club lost money in this competition last season, cheap ticket prices, vastly reduced attendances and a fine. They still had to open the stadium, turn on the floodlights and pay the staff, instead of getting on ones proverbial high horse about who chooses to attend or boycott just accept that people have their own minds.
Calling people sheep because they are free minded is not the way forwards, it could be turned the other way round.
When was the last time a strike actually achieved a satisfactory result in this country.
Scab/sheep or reactionary, the CHOICE is yours.
UTG
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Post by peterparker on May 15, 2017 7:10:00 GMT
Oh how we love close season, very little of substance to talk about so we can rant about something. Pretty certain the Club lost money in this competition last season, cheap ticket prices, vastly reduced attendances and a fine. They still had to open the stadium, turn on the floodlights and pay the staff, instead of getting on ones proverbial high horse about who chooses to attend or boycott just accept that people have their own minds. Calling people sheep because they are free minded is not the way forwards, it could be turned the other way round. When was the last time a strike actually achieved a satisfactory result in this country. Scab/sheep or reactionary, the CHOICE is yours. UTG I don't think it's anything new for clubs to lose money from the early rounds of the competition. One of the reasons the EFL looked to revamp it (Money)
Not a competition I want anything to do with in it's bastardised format.
As it is, a load of the real big teams don't want to put their 'u23s' out anyway.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 15, 2017 7:57:10 GMT
'Our team' is all i care about - why did you use inverted commas as if to quote me ? Ditto. I only care about my team. And how my teams future is looking increasingly un certain. If and that's a big if, your fears about the premier teams comes true, we will be one of the Premier teams you talk about....... When that happens i will defo be pushing the radioactive weeds up by then Happy Days
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Post by stevek192 on May 15, 2017 8:16:49 GMT
Had one of the "big teams" academies reached the final then it would have had FAR more effect as they would have seen that the attendance of the supporters of those clubs would have matched the likes of Accrington and Hartlepool. As it turned out two of the real football clubs Oxford and Coventry reached the final and showed why even a Mickey Mouse cup with the right teams makes it well worth while. If it was just about money then you would have the select of the EFL in it to ensure big final turnouts but for the lower teams in this competition it does mean something..a day out to remember. Long may two LEAGUE teams reach the final of it and that at the moment means to ensure that Academies get given the treatment they deserve and be stuffed out of sight.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 15, 2017 8:39:45 GMT
Had one of the "big teams" academies reached the final then it would have had FAR more effect as they would have seen that the attendance of the supporters of those clubs would have matched the likes of Accrington and Hartlepool. As it turned out two of the real football clubs Oxford and Coventry reached the final and showed why even a Mickey Mouse cup with the right teams makes it well worth while. If it was just about money then you would have the select of the EFL in it to ensure big final turnouts but for the lower teams in this competition it does mean something..a day out to remember. Long may two LEAGUE teams reach the final of it and that at the moment means to ensure that Academies get given the treatment they deserve and be stuffed out of sight. We could be one of the League teams to get to the final next season, wonder how many gasheads will boycott that game ? It has been reported that Oxford made over £500,000 this season.......
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 8:44:51 GMT
It's a tournement with a big prize that would be a welcome boost to our coffers - we just have to play and beat the team in front of us - that's all I care about Everything has a price eh? Amazing how some people can't see the bigger picture with this.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 8:47:09 GMT
and will you care when there is no place in the league for 'our' team when the EFL comprises all Premier and Championship reserve and youth teams? 'Our team' is all i care about - why did you use inverted commas as if to quote me ? So when 'our team' finished behind Bristol City B/U23 team in the league, you wouldn't have an issue with it?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 8:48:16 GMT
It's a tournement with a big prize that would be a welcome boost to our coffers - we just have to play and beat the team in front of us - that's all I care about Becoming a feeder club for West Brom would also boost our coffers. Maybe we should consider that?
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 15, 2017 8:51:31 GMT
It's a tournement with a big prize that would be a welcome boost to our coffers - we just have to play and beat the team in front of us - that's all I care about Everything has a price eh? Amazing how some people can't see the bigger picture with this. If as you say the leagues will be full of U23 teams , can you explain how these U23 teams are going to get their players from because as you say we will all be out of business and no feeder clubs would be in existence to provide them with Raw talent Or are they going to take over all the Sunday leagues as well ??
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Post by countygroundhotel on May 15, 2017 8:52:33 GMT
Had one of the "big teams" academies reached the final then it would have had FAR more effect as they would have seen that the attendance of the supporters of those clubs would have matched the likes of Accrington and Hartlepool. As it turned out two of the real football clubs Oxford and Coventry reached the final and showed why even a Mickey Mouse cup with the right teams makes it well worth while. If it was just about money then you would have the select of the EFL in it to ensure big final turnouts but for the lower teams in this competition it does mean something..a day out to remember. Long may two LEAGUE teams reach the final of it and that at the moment means to ensure that Academies get given the treatment they deserve and be stuffed out of sight. Before last season the academy / u21 / u23 teams had zero chance of making that final and robbing a FL club (not team) of a potential big pay day. Now the shirt sighted support giving them the chance to spoil that big day out. As a general point what is Shaun Harvey doing to support and develop u21s at Football League clubs. Can we expect a proposal for L1 / L2 clubs to enter an u 21 team in the FA Vase or FA trophy? I'm sure you'd be supporting that sort of idea Steve.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 15, 2017 8:54:09 GMT
Fair play to those who want to boycott the games, although I am not sure it will really make any difference. Attendances are figures at the end of the day so can and will be used to prove whatever agenda the user wants.
For me, the real villain in this is the power and the money of the Premier League. It has skewed football to such a degree that the top division cannot be compared to the old First Division with parachute payments which would build us the UWE, clear debt, build a training ground and fund a Championship squad, and players earning many times more per week than the average supporter watching them earns in a year.
Who has a Sky (and increasingly BT) subscription?
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Post by countygroundhotel on May 15, 2017 8:54:11 GMT
Everything has a price eh? Amazing how some people can't see the bigger picture with this. If as you say the leagues will be full of U23 teams , can you explain how these U23 teams are going to get their players from because as you say we will all be out of business and no feeder clubs would be in existence to provide them with Raw talent Or are they going to take over all the Sunday leagues as well ?? Have I missed something Henbury when did the Football League take over running all the Sunday leagues?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 8:59:21 GMT
Everything has a price eh? Amazing how some people can't see the bigger picture with this. If as you say the leagues will be full of U23 teams , can you explain how these U23 teams are going to get their players from because as you say we will all be out of business and no feeder clubs would be in existence to provide them with Raw talent Or are they going to take over all the Sunday leagues as well ?? We wouldn't be out of business, especially with the finance flowing from the PL. We would just be minnows playing submissive to Premier League clubs. They would continue to hover up any lower league talent and use their U23 teams as playgrounds to develop them. I genuinely wonder whether Stoke's inclusion in next year's competition may persuade them not to loan out Ryan Sweeney to us again. He could get experience playing alongside first team players and would no doubt be a big player for them if they wish to challenge for the trophy.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 15, 2017 9:03:34 GMT
If as you say the leagues will be full of U23 teams , can you explain how these U23 teams are going to get their players from because as you say we will all be out of business and no feeder clubs would be in existence to provide them with Raw talent Or are they going to take over all the Sunday leagues as well ?? We wouldn't be out of business, especially with the finance flowing from the PL. We would just be minnows playing submissive to Premier League clubs. They would continue to hover up any lower league talent and use their U23 teams as playgrounds to develop them. I genuinely wonder whether Stoke's inclusion in next year's competition may persuade them not to loan out Ryan Sweeney to us again. He could get experience playing alongside first team players and would no doubt be a big player for them if they wish to challenge for the trophy. Will be very surprised if Ryan is with us next season as Stoke want to get experience in the championship. Maybe that lot south of the River may get him as he like this area very much
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 9:09:29 GMT
We wouldn't be out of business, especially with the finance flowing from the PL. We would just be minnows playing submissive to Premier League clubs. They would continue to hover up any lower league talent and use their U23 teams as playgrounds to develop them. I genuinely wonder whether Stoke's inclusion in next year's competition may persuade them not to loan out Ryan Sweeney to us again. He could get experience playing alongside first team players and would no doubt be a big player for them if they wish to challenge for the trophy. Will be very surprised if Ryan is with us next season as Stoke want to get experience in the championship. Maybe that lot south of the River may get him as he like this area very much The point being is that clubs may favour retaining young talent to field in the EFL Trophy rather than loaning them out to L1/L2 etc. Don't see that being a good thing for lower league football, do you?
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