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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 13:43:08 GMT
I do hope the club is exploring availability of other possible sites but finding a 40 acre plus site will not be easy. I think it's also worth exploring what can be done at the mem. and if as you say that mean a 16/17k capacity then that would support Championship football and Bournemouth are surviving in the premiership in a smaller ground. There seems a bl00dy great big one bangin the middle of Filton!!! If not Emerson's Green as plenty of "green" sites. I guess fears of a chemical leak will still stop Avonmouth being considered Changed times at Avonmouth now, the chemical plants now virtually decimated.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 2, 2017 14:40:51 GMT
There seems a bl00dy great big one bangin the middle of Filton!!! If not Emerson's Green as plenty of "green" sites. I guess fears of a chemical leak will still stop Avonmouth being considered Changed times at Avonmouth now, the chemical plants now virtually decimated. Went down the old road to seven beach the other day and not a chemical works in site ! Lots of new warehouses and empty space ! Even the old rail line has been updated with nice new ballast and track
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 2, 2017 15:04:20 GMT
No landing lights, we are totally in the dark!! The least positive he has ever sounded about uwe. I get the feeling a mem redevelopment is coming. Did you notice his distinct change in confidence of manner of talking, from confident to stammering and more. I've been positive up until this but now I can't help but wonder that the craic is.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 2, 2017 15:27:05 GMT
I think our need is greater than theirs unfortunately. Yeah, there's houses going up all round that area. The very worst they can do is sell it for housing and make a shedload of cash. Given UWE is in the shadow on Bristol university, I don't think housing will be their priority. They have been trying for a good while to get equal billing and to have a stadium on campus would be a big deal as I see it. It's a bizarre situation for sure
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 2, 2017 15:29:15 GMT
I guess if talks are still ongoing a deal is still possible. 5 hours earlier...Sounds to me the UWE talks are going nowhere Can't tell if you're a WUM or simply post so much that you forget what you write. Or suffer from Bipolar disorder
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jun 2, 2017 15:40:25 GMT
No landing lights, we are totally in the dark!! The least positive he has ever sounded about uwe. I get the feeling a mem redevelopment is coming. Did you notice his distinct change in confidence of manner of talking, from confident to stammering and more. I've been positive up until this but now I can't help but wonder that the craic is. He was clearly very uncomfortable being asked about it which is probably why it was the last question asked, he probably stipulated he'd only discuss it for 45 seconds at the end! Pretty obvious it's dead in the water.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 2, 2017 15:52:20 GMT
Did you notice his distinct change in confidence of manner of talking, from confident to stammering and more. I've been positive up until this but now I can't help but wonder that the craic is. He was clearly very uncomfortable being asked about it which is probably why it was the last question asked, he probably stipulated he'd only discuss it for 45 seconds at the end! Pretty obvious it's dead in the water. FFS. It's not pretty obvious at all! It's pretty obvious he doesn't want to discuss it though but all of the other positive stuff going on suggests that UWE is probably not a problem more likely it's with the legals to do their stuff and an announcement will be made only when the deal is legally binding. So, for the fuckteenth time; TALK IS CHEAP ( Higgs, Landing Lights etc) ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS (Exciting New Signings, Training Ground Development. Top 6 Budget, DC happy).
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Post by enjoythesilence on Jun 2, 2017 15:56:13 GMT
FFS. It's not pretty obvious at all! It's pretty obvious he doesn't want to discuss it though but all of the other positive stuff going on suggests that UWE is probably not a problem more likely it's with the legals to do their stuff and an announcement will be made only when the deal is legally binding.
So, for the fuckteenth time; TALK IS CHEAP ( Higgs, Landing Lights etc) ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS (Exciting New Signings, Training Ground Development. Top 6 Budget, DC happy).
Love it...Best post so far!! (Fuckteenth) :-)
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 2, 2017 15:58:58 GMT
He was clearly very uncomfortable being asked about it which is probably why it was the last question asked, he probably stipulated he'd only discuss it for 45 seconds at the end! Pretty obvious it's dead in the water. FFS. It's not pretty obvious at all! It's pretty obvious he doesn't want to discuss it though but all of the other positive stuff going on suggests that UWE is probably not a problem more likely it's with the legals to do their stuff and an announcement will be made only when the deal is legally binding. So, for the fuckteenth time; TALK IS CHEAP ( Higgs, Landing Lights etc) ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS (Exciting New Signings, Training Ground Development. Top 6 Budget, DC happy). The truth is we probably won't even know if it's done or not in August. The pp runs out in Jan 2018. I'm not a fan of the place personally but understand the reasons we apparently need it. The only people that know fact are those involbed in meetings. Those who are so say ITK cou,d be getting a version from the people they talk to that is very different to what has gone on in the meetings. Us Robers fans should be used to this really as it's not like it's the first time eh.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 2, 2017 16:17:55 GMT
5 hours earlier...Can't tell if you're a WUM or simply post so much that you forget what you write. Or suffer from Bipolar disorder I didn't realise this was the Sky Fake News channel, if you're that interested in quoting my posts at least do the decent thing and quote my full post, as this is what I actually posted on reflection of the interview: "Not sure if SH is simply playing the long game with the UWE, as why apparently give DC a top 6 budget and be about to submit big plans for the training ground if we're still stuck at the Mem for years. I guess if talks are still ongoing a deal is still possible." KP surprised at you of all posters accusing a fellow Gashead of having a disability.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 16:23:02 GMT
The thing is UWE will know that BRFC will need a new stadium if they are to compete in the championship when they get there. So they know the clock is ticking and that come August Rovers will have to abandon the plan and look elsewhere to fit into a three year plan of getting to the championship. So the UWE have about two months max then they will have no stadium on their site. They will then need to come up with something else to use as a selling point to get overseas students especially interested in the them
I really don't think a football stadium on the campus is a particularly strong selling point to most students. Very few if any Universities have this facility and some work closely with the local professional clubs to satisfy their Sporting Degree requirements. This is a relatively cheap model without huge infrastructure costs. UWE have adopted that model and are satisfying their Sports Degree students with their long term partnership arrangement with the 'Sh!te', which was signed in March this year. The demand for University places is far outstripping supply - 'selling' this land to BRFC in any form may well curtail their capacity for their longer term expansion plans in other areas of education. If as some posters have suggested on here that there is not much in this financially for UWE, I'm struggling to see what the attraction is to them any more - it sounds to me that club are still just trying to convince them to 'sell' or whatever, but are not in a particularly strong position to do so without providing UWE with a perpetual revenue stream (car parking revenue et al), which was as I understand the unsustainable NH model. Again only my views and nothing to substantiate what I'm thinking. The flip side is we still have a financially unsustainable medium/long term plan if we remain at the Mem. Looks to me as though we could be starting all over again - and that begs another question!!! Yes these days its about "what" students they get and how that can raise the uni's profile and bank balance. From a governmental point of view overseas students are the A listers as they bring money into the country. For arguments sake if BRFC made it to the prem then if students at uwe have reduced entry and some priority on games then some overseas students will be attracted to being able to watch Man Utd,Arsenal etc on their doorstep. As far as I know the UWE are not selling the land it is being leased to BRFC. This does mean in the future the land can be used for another purpose.
The bottom line is ,there is/was a reason why UWE want a stadium on their land . Else the talks would have been over a long long time ago
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 2, 2017 16:37:18 GMT
"This does mean in the future the land can be used for another purpose"
I doubt the present Governors are too worried about what will happen to the land in 100+ years, which is the usual length of a leasehold agreement?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 16:40:14 GMT
Or suffer from Bipolar disorder I didn't realise this was the Sky Fake News channel, if you're that interested in quoting my posts at least do the decent thing and quote my full post, as this is what I actually posted on reflection of the interview: "Not sure if SH is simply playing the long game with the UWE, as why apparently give DC a top 6 budget and be about to submit big plans for the training ground if we're still stuck at the Mem for years. I guess if talks are still ongoing a deal is still possible." KP surprised at you of all posters accusing a fellow Gashead of having a disability. Both your contradictory quotes were posted on reflection of the same interview, no? So whats your view?.. 1. The UWE talks are going nowhere. 2. If talks are still ongoing, a deal is still possible. Just trying to keep up with people's thoughts, which is difficult when you change your mind every two minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 16:42:21 GMT
Did you notice his distinct change in confidence of manner of talking, from confident to stammering and more. I've been positive up until this but now I can't help but wonder that the craic is. He was clearly very uncomfortable being asked about it which is probably why it was the last question asked, he probably stipulated he'd only discuss it for 45 seconds at the end! Pretty obvious it's dead in the water. Going back to the Wembley guy and his advice to keep in the planning stage as long as possible. Maybe they are following this advice ?
As for the SH seating comment its most likely that when casting an eye around the ground there are seats in lots of locations and so without probing into facts and figures one might assume the actual number of seats was higher. Or ,that he was unaware as to how few seats there are at the mem compared to other stadia in this division.
It left me thinking that there may be some more seating arriving at the Mem over the next year or so.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 16:44:37 GMT
Yes I seen him in the range at Stoke Gifford ordering some patio chairs
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 2, 2017 17:24:04 GMT
He was clearly very uncomfortable being asked about it which is probably why it was the last question asked, he probably stipulated he'd only discuss it for 45 seconds at the end! Pretty obvious it's dead in the water. Going back to the Wembley guy and his advice to keep in the planning stage as long as possible. Maybe they are following this advice ?
As for the SH seating comment its most likely that when casting an eye around the ground there are seats in lots of locations and so without probing into facts and figures one might assume the actual number of seats was higher. Or ,that he was unaware as to how few seats there are at the mem compared to other stadia in this division.
It left me thinking that there may be some more seating arriving at the Mem over the next year or so.
You'd think the Chairman would know, given he attends every home game and I assume has some input on setting the ticket/season ticket prices plus agreeing we needed the SW stand built last summer. Somebody on the OTIB was suggesting we're getting more seating, not sure if that's more BS or we're trying to squeeze more seating in somewhere, the SE corner??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 17:33:56 GMT
Yes I seen him in the range at Stoke Gifford ordering some patio chairs I'm taking my own - a brand new non slip Pogo Stick
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 2, 2017 17:35:11 GMT
I didn't realise this was the Sky Fake News channel, if you're that interested in quoting my posts at least do the decent thing and quote my full post, as this is what I actually posted on reflection of the interview: "Not sure if SH is simply playing the long game with the UWE, as why apparently give DC a top 6 budget and be about to submit big plans for the training ground if we're still stuck at the Mem for years. I guess if talks are still ongoing a deal is still possible." KP surprised at you of all posters accusing a fellow Gashead of having a disability. Both your contradictory quotes were posted on reflection of the same interview, no? So whats your view?.. 1. The UWE talks are going nowhere. 2. If talks are still ongoing, a deal is still possible. Just trying to keep up with people's thoughts, which is difficult when you change your mind every two minutes. I think the change was 2+ hours later, as thinking about it logically I can't see why we'd spend millions on a training ground etc whilst we're stuck at the Mem for years, when the only way the club can really progress is with a 15K+ stadium.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 17:39:17 GMT
Both your contradictory quotes were posted on reflection of the same interview, no? So whats your view?.. 1. The UWE talks are going nowhere. 2. If talks are still ongoing, a deal is still possible. Just trying to keep up with people's thoughts, which is difficult when you change your mind every two minutes. I think the change was 2+ hours later, as thinking about it logically I can't see why we'd spend millions on a training ground etc whilst we're stuck at the Mem for years, when the only way the club can really progress is with a 15K+ stadium. nah was 5 hours but fair enough, I am inclined to agree.
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Post by garystash on Jun 2, 2017 20:18:27 GMT
I'm starting to think something is not right.
With the recent rumour about the AQ's looking for a buyer, and Wael's rather cryptic response on twitter - I reckon there could be some truth in there.
Perhaps the truth is that we're looking for someone to put some money in and are struggling to find a willing investor.
The AQ's don't have or don't want to use their own money, but the potential returns are too poor for anyone else to want a piece of the UWE stadium.
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