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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 11, 2024 17:23:29 GMT
Everything’s going to be “ a little bit more settled next season” says MT. So that’s alright then, no matter what happens in the next four games! I think you raised a really good point. He need a target . Is it 3 from 12 or 6 from 12?. This could shift opinion either way. If he's determined and goes on a good run the opinions could swing to 50-50% potentially. If he shows a ' medittarian ' way of thinking fans might not like it. His polling could be below 10%. Everyone should be taking the next 4 games seriously. This is MT test now!.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 11, 2024 17:12:40 GMT
GASGOV. Poll..
Based on 200 votes .
30% in favour of keeping him. 60% think he should go 10% undecided.
Currently 30% of Gashead think he should stay. The Poll could change in the last 4 games and will be updated on % format after 300 votes. Margin of error 3-5%.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 11, 2024 16:11:23 GMT
Haven't seen that on his Twitter, I guess my algorithms don't show me his stuff! Was it a very recent post? Apparently he’s managed to convince the players to down tools. Our terrible form, terrible performances and record breaking goal drought has nothing to do with MT’s tactics and man management skills 🤣 Hate to say it but City appointed there manager same time . They are 2nd in current form we are 23rd in current form ( 6 ). It's just desperation Eric and they know it !. .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 11, 2024 10:16:11 GMT
Especially as away support is limited to 1300 and STs are now on sale in the south stand . Unless the club undertakes major works by sectioning off gates 2 and 3 which seems not to be a priority. Also it must of cost the club a few million on the south stand project from start to finish which could of gone into the planning budget. Currently the capacity is around 12000 meaning we got to sell 10000 home tickets every game to justify the current capacity. We haven't averaged 11000 plus for over 40 years. At present I can't see any justification to be involved in large scale projects until we sort out the playing side of things !. I thought that they took out a loan, specifically for building the South Stand? Either way the club have averaged 12000 once since the 1960s and certainly not since the mid 70s. Also if we miraculously got promoted the club could put temporary seating in an area of say 500 - 1000 and increase capacity to 13000 limiting away support to 1300. We need a good playing budget!.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 11, 2024 9:56:54 GMT
No goals in 7 games, nothing much to cheer for more than 5 weeks. Now would be a good time to show us the proposed designs for the new East Stand. Something other than poor results to talk about ... If we carry on performing like we are under MT and attendances continue to fall will they even want to go ahead with stadium development? Especially as away support is limited to 1300 and STs are now on sale in the south stand . Unless the club undertakes major works by sectioning off gates 2 and 3 which seems not to be a priority. Also it must of cost the club a few million on the south stand project from start to finish which could of gone into the planning budget. Currently the capacity is around 12000 meaning we got to sell 10000 home tickets every game to justify the current capacity. We haven't averaged 11000 plus for over 40 years. At present I can't see any justification to be involved in large scale projects until we sort out the playing side of things !. Our average gate is 8200 which us 4000 short of capacity .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 10, 2024 11:23:59 GMT
So the snapshot poll shows only 20% back him in the first 100 opinions. I wonder how many of the 20% would back him if we fail to win any of our last 4 ?. Maybe 10-15 % ,?.
That don't bode well for recruiting players or selling STs . The next 4 games will be interesting.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 10, 2024 10:22:55 GMT
Sack but I don't think the board have given him enough support. Something didn't feel right early on, it was as if the goalposts had been moved slightly to what MT expected when entering the building. We've gone from one extreme to the other with JB and MT. Frustrating thing is seeing Nathan Jones doing so well at Charlton, a bloke I would have loved here. Probably not competing with the likes of Charlton though in terms of £££. I think we need to separate the two expectations . I agree the board haven't backed him with a top 6-8 budget . I have questioned even if our budget is in the top 6-8 many times on this forum. However : the board have given manager(s) a good reasonable budget. Taylor was given a very very good budget in the January window. The fact is based on 10 match current form we are now in the relegation zone . If this was repeated we could be fighting relegation. This is unacceptable based on the squad budget and the additional given by the board in January. No one us saying ' we should be top 10'. The problem we have is anyone can now beat us. Fans in the south stand we're signing self defeating songs last night to cheer up the gloom.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 10, 2024 9:27:35 GMT
He's had a window. Based off of his results and more importantly tactics so far, how can anyone be confident in allowing Taylor to completely rebuild our squad? We will become a very direct/long-ball side that's scrapping around the bottom of the table. Attendances will drop further, lower player budget, relegation looms... It's lunacy to let this happen. Exactly he was given a top 8 budget in the January window . He signed 4 players . Any club in this leauge could beat us comfortably. That is unacceptable .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 10, 2024 9:23:57 GMT
I’d give him a ‘window’. Clearly this bunch of under performers don’t want him as their boss but thankfully many will be gone in just a few games - so imo give him a chance. If this had been the situation after 10 games with his team at the start of the season, I’d be thinking differently. He’s been given ‘the tail of a tigers’ to hold and he’s been let down badly imo. In January the board gave him 500k cash and a big budget to get in 3 players. The Forest lad was in a premiership squad a few weeks before. Vaughan played a reasonable ammount of championship football. Clubs in division one would love a January budget of 500k cash and 3 higher leauge players. And quest what ?. He over looked a striker and opted for a cramped midfield. It's not as if he was given free transfers and national leauge players.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 10, 2024 9:07:48 GMT
The board backed him with the club record signing. And a player from the premiership and two from the championship.
He's had 4 players with a massive budget in the window in comparison to other division one clubs and decided NOT to sign a striker. Its not as if it was all frees from lower divisions.
It's simply not true he hasn't been backed by the board !. Yes there is BIG questions about the vision of the board I agree. However on this one point he did get good backing in January window.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 10, 2024 8:59:05 GMT
Ridiculous to sack a manager after such a short time . There's nothing to suggest giving him a summer rebuild will change anything. The tactics are woeful, football is dire and all he does is blame the players for his own shortcomings. The players appear to have downed tools and even the fans can't be bothered anymore. It's only going one way atm. Let's not forget the board gave him £500k in the January window . He failed to sign a striker with the cash and most of the players he signed as been dropped. People forget that the bottom 10 clubs would dream of having this sort of money and resources to sign 3 4 5 players in a window. What would cheltenham do with up to £500k in a window ?.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 10, 2024 8:50:50 GMT
As I said a month ago " even if we don't win one game in the last 10 he still stays ". Our home record is a shocking 7 points from a possible 33 .
It appears there is no targets. No measurement . No direction. As I also said " even if he stays :how confident is the board in giving him a reasonable budget ?.
Luckily 51 points should keep us up. It's only complacency and comfortability he stays. If this was one month earlier we be all ####### ourselves!.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 8, 2024 13:19:07 GMT
Topper, that’s rubbish. We beat Morecambe in his first match, last weekend on March I think. We’d been poor all season following a familiar ‘let’s recruit but stop at recruiting any good strikers’ transfer policy. The two full backs getting injured and a combination of other crap things meant we went down. DC took his share of the blame and started to do something about it. But, we were never ‘virtually relegated…’ That’s possibly re-writing history as supergas said or just rubbish. JB didn’t have a good squad perhaps but it was unforgivable the way he gave up, stood with his arms crossed and blamed the players. MT fortunately hasn’t given up, though some of the players may have. Has to be given time to recruit and get the team playing his way. Of course it may not work out, there are never any guarantees in football but we’ve got to stop thinking the answer to everything is ‘sacking the manager’. Not only is it financial stupidity it really will make us even more unpopular than we’ve been since appointing JB, no other serious manager would even consider us. UTG! Why do we have to stop thinking that sacking the manager is the answer when most other league clubs don't seem to worry? What's the better option, dismiss MT now and pay him a year's salary, £150K(?), or hand him thr entire wage budget of £5m(?) and just hope he gets it's right? I'd say the latter is financial stupidity! I doubt any out of work manager would worry too much about how our last manager departed if we offered them a decent contract. He definitely needs a target by the board. Everyone in any job needs targets whether your new or experienced otherwise on what basis can you measure progress ?. The board are in a truly awkward situation . They know his record is worst than the previous manager . They know attendances are dropping. They know ST sales are probably down in comparison to the previous manager. Even if they keep him subconsciously they aren't going to give him a big budget based on his results. Sacking him will show a major flaw in the decision making from top to bottom. I suppose they wish the season would end now. The compromise would be to give him a small budget with promises of increases in January if targets are meet. I mean would anyone give him a 4-5 mil budget with a home record of 2 1 7 ? .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 6, 2024 19:54:38 GMT
If you are on the Thatchers, I'll prove to you I went. The scoreboard was moved from Southeast to Southwest. We created chances, didn't score goals. We had 53% posession 13 shots, 6 on target. This isn't a manager issue, this is a player issue. The tactics created the chances, the players weren't clinical enough to put those chances away. First couple of minutes of 2nd half and their keeper makes a worldy of a save. It shows that, at times, stats mean nothing. Outplayed totally. This is a manager issue as a good manager would get a performance out of this squad. I accept he’s going to be given a transfer window. I hope he uses it well. The big question is how big of a budget will he get ?.I mean he's failed the first objective which is to improve on the previous manager . Players performances have gone back. Team selection is all over the place and crowds are dropping. Let's say we only get 3-4 points from a possible 15 align that to our current form. What size budget is a big question .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 6, 2024 18:53:52 GMT
Yes, was stood on the Thatchers singing the team on. I don’t think you went to the game. If you did, you didn’t watch the same game I did. We were outplayed totally. We’ve not scored a goal since 2nd Match and are in free fall. I’ve been to the last 6 games and it’s been a really tough watch. Either way we gained 6 points out of a possible 27 points at home in 2024 which says everything. If that's progress then Julian Alsop was a superstar !.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 6, 2024 18:44:37 GMT
Bolton aren't great away from home and they didn't get out of first gear today. The performance was the same as the long line of dross performances since Taylor took over, and yes I did watch today for my sins. We are nowhere near league 1 standard. The next 3 games will show where we are as they are all against bottom 8 sides, even if we lose all those and fail to score they'll still be posters saying MT needs a transfer window before he's judged! Correct!. I said a month ago he could fail to win in his last 10 games and still get to the summer. What is clear is the board have changed there objective / target. The previous manager was sacked for not being in the top 8. Taylor have done far worst and casually rides along to British summertime. Crowds are going down and the atmosphere today was flat . Isn't it 2 0 7 in 2024 at home ?.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 6, 2024 12:06:11 GMT
Over 1,500tickets still available all around the ground. However a lot of supporters still purchasing as I type this. During the match the wind speed will be highest at 16.00pm at 21 mph with gusts to 36 mph. Not as bad here and risk of rain has subsided. If that's the case we sold over 10000 tickets and challenges my theory of allowing more away fans to generate much needed cash. It be interesting to hear the final attendance then .
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 5, 2024 19:43:23 GMT
Especially as we have 4 games in 14 days . The ticket sales look poor and maybe fans are taking advantage of the £15 bargin tickets v reading & Cambridge for a seat in South stand. Surely they can give Reading more tickets . The ground looks half empty on the ticketing website and fans aren't buying. It's simple! You ain’t letting it go are you😜 policing costs, surrounding pubs taken over by away fans, bigger potential for disorder, which we certainly don’t need as we are in the process of extending capacity with bigger and better facilities. Keep your powder dry until further improvements are finished and then maybe the south stand could be handed over. I remember 1985 when I think it could be argued that city had half the attendance in a 12,000 crowd. Enjoyed the result that day but not that many city fans in our ground. Let’s hope we can silence all 1300 Bolton fans tomorrow 👍 What a city the size of Bristol struggle with 1300 or more but Cheltenham can cope with nearly 1600 and tiny Nailsworth the same away number . Come on please ..
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 5, 2024 18:36:07 GMT
Plenty of tickets left in the ground . Even the south stand is only half full . Time to have a rethink about away allocation if we can't top 9000 v Bolton. Due to the train strikes tomorrow, quite a few BWFC fans have returned their tickets, still I expect the away end will be close to a sell out. With the club, allegedly in full money saving mode, you would think they would allow more away fans to increase gate revenue. Due to EFL rules, the club can't offer unsold tickets at reduced prices (Exeter City comes to mind) to encourage attendance as would happen at the theatre, concerts etc. Then again, that would probably be counter productive as fans would then wait till the last minute in the hope of getting in on the cheap. Especially as we have 4 games in 14 days . The ticket sales look poor and maybe fans are taking advantage of the £15 bargin tickets v reading & Cambridge for a seat in South stand. Surely they can give Reading more tickets . The ground looks half empty on the ticketing website and fans aren't buying. It's simple!
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 5, 2024 15:25:20 GMT
Plenty of tickets left in the ground . Even the south stand is only half full . Time to have a rethink about away allocation if we can't top 9000 v Bolton.
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