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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 18, 2024 15:55:25 GMT
Freedom of speech is a myth. People are still free to say whatever they like. What isn't is the consequences of exercising that freedom. There are consequences to words and actions. Often when people complain about having their freedom of speech denied, what they really mean is that they don't like what happens once they have said or done something society no longer tolerates. Freedom of speech is a concept, not a myth. There is a huge difference between criminalising people for threatening to kill people and criminalising people for “hate speech”, which is an opinion, not a threat. This is a fairly new invention and had a whole host of potential adaptations. It’s an insult, and that’s a whole other bag of worms. Currently the police are knocking on peoples doors for misgendering people on twitter. If folks don’t see an issue with that, however cruel doing so might be, they want their heads looked at. The police pulled an autistic girl out by her legs because she said a police officer looked like a lesbian. This is where this kind of opinion gets you. It’s totalitarianism and it’s claiming it’s a myth just seeks to normalise what are totalitarian behaviours from authorities. It’s a concept and it’s up for debate and it’s quite possible not to be a racist/sexist whatever and still find this kind of thing utterly disgusting and Orwellian Your last paragraph is just “you’re either with us or against us” rephrased . It gives me the creeps. The police don't even knock on doors when you've been burgled. You agree that people are still allowed to say what they want though right? And we alsk agree there are consequences to "free speech". I would probably agree with you that in some cases those consequences may be unjust. Glad I gave you the creeps though.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 18, 2024 14:56:54 GMT
Freedom of speech is a myth.
People are still free to say whatever they like.
What isn't is the consequences of exercising that freedom.
There are consequences to words and actions.
Often when people complain about having their freedom of speech denied, what they really mean is that they don't like what happens once they have said or done something society no longer tolerates.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 18, 2024 14:05:34 GMT
Please use the report feature in the future so that it will definitely get flagged to the mods. Thank you. I think it was you Hugo who called out that second comment. Oh, lol. Sorry.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 18, 2024 13:53:17 GMT
There have been two posts in the last couple of days that to me demonstrate rascism. The post yesterday about black players. The post yesterday or Friday that in the last sentence said the new owners should go back home. Both were called out, both should have got a ban. Please use the report feature in the future so that it will definitely get flagged to the mods. Thank you.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 18, 2024 12:25:56 GMT
Respectively, disagree. Freedom of speech however stupid should always win the day, but that's my easy to say personal stance. To keep it in context, rules of the forum which we all subscribe to were broken, so in that sense I reluctantly agree well done mods.....but I so wish there was more education and engagement to show the correct way if that sort of vile post rears it's ugly head again. Prohibition rarely works. This board is provided by Proboards who have fairly straightforward terms of use that as Admin I'm directly responsible for upholding and Mods are appointed to ensure we adhere to the terms of use. You are not allowed to promote hate, advocate discrimination or incite violence on any Proboards platform, it would get the forum shut down.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 20:58:09 GMT
Just to be clear, the Mod team have seen the message and a poster has been permabanned.
Let's leave that there.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 20:52:03 GMT
Have you seen where my cheek is? In the loft-us
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 20:49:32 GMT
I’ve met you and I wouldn’t mess with you, you know that! Not sure how to respond to this tbh.. My post wasn't suggesting people mess with me because that would be a really silly thing to do. I'm a black belt in origami and won the non blink contest at school in 92.(Grange) Just that, if posters could shake hands or perhaps a peck on the cheek for the FPBE crew, the world would be a more pleasant place. Or, if rovers weren't so utterly sh** and were uefa Champs...we'd all be cool. People would still moan.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 20:46:13 GMT
Looks like most of our black players could be ladyboys. More interested in protecting what matters to them rather than getting stuck in for the team. What is that supposed to mean?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 20:44:54 GMT
Bit like half of them on here. Giving it the big un behind a keyboard but would run 10 yards if they came face to face with eachother. Especially the mods. I remember when 'keith' faced up in the bar after being called out on here, and some of the forum hard men literally sh** themselves. Philbemmygas was one of them and he actually shat himself which was nasty since he lives on guiness🤢 I’ve met you and I wouldn’t mess with you, you know that! I would in real life, but not on here. Right vicious tongue on here, that one.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 16:46:25 GMT
Cracking goal that to be fair.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 16:42:48 GMT
He’s a goal scoring machine! Best finisher I've seen for us.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 16:17:15 GMT
We haven't looked awful to be fair.
Other than our usual double dose of self destruction at the back we've had as much play as Northampton, if not more.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 16:07:16 GMT
Baggott on?
Blimey.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 16:05:55 GMT
Vaughan coming on, not sure for who Vale probably. He was only permitted to play 45 mins apparently.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 16:05:18 GMT
Anyone else having problems with ifollow? Hugo, I hear this every time iFollow show a game. A man of your calibre can find the game sans all of the problems My usual site wasn't working today so went ifollow hoping that I'd have less problems. I wish I hadn't so far.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 15:41:56 GMT
Anyone else having problems with ifollow?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 15:33:07 GMT
Josh Grant needs to up his game here … chance for him today and not taking it yet . He's been here nearly 3 years and he hasn't taken it yet. I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 17, 2024 15:26:08 GMT
Surely Grant realises you need to make the odd tackle when playing in midfield? We're making Northampton look like Man C when they attack. He doesn't bother when he's defending, so why start now?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 16, 2024 6:53:23 GMT
Guess who's banned for a week.
Bless him.
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