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Post by chippenhamgas on May 27, 2016 20:27:12 GMT
Opinions are opinions mate, was watered off with the silence but it's all turned out for the best. Three years means we can plan and move forward, no one can poach him on the cheap but that means the cost of sacking him is massive. My biggest worry was it dragging on for weeks and stuffing up our summer. What this also means is he believes in the new owner's to deliver on the stadium and transfer budget. You should personally write to DC with an apology for the posts that you wrote on this thread, shocking. Yeah i will write an apology every time my opinion differs from yours.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 27, 2016 17:24:01 GMT
Did I miss something? I'm certain that those (including me) who expressed frustration at the thought of DC leaving did explain their viewpoint. I didn't see one post slagging him off or that was critical of his potential departure that wasn't tempered with the caveat that they wanted him to stay, that he was a brilliant manager. My own frustrations were focused on what might have happened and I'm delighted that I got myself in a tizz over nothing. A thread about what manager and player you were most upset about about losing says everything. Supporters get down when they see the chance for the club to progress pushed back when assets leave. In times past its been inevitable, hopefully this shows its no longer the case. I couldn't be happier not to have my frustrations come to fruition. Well done for having absolute faith in everything. I've seen too much go wrong for BRFC to be that sure so quickly. Utg. My point was that people had starting ranting before any of us knew anything. Saying stuff like "if you want to leave then you can f**k off" or what ever else was posted was disrespectful and OTT which was why I challenged it. That's my view point which I've also explained. No one is doubting how much people were upset at the thought of him leaving and no one is being smug for having absolute faith either. Faith is just an excuse for believing something you want to believe based on no evidence. It's as ridiculous a stand point as going off on one. If i watered off anyone with my remarks then i apologise, my frustration with the situation was driving my comments, i really did believe he would walk and i have been proved wrong. Then the question would have been why did he walk if the future off the field is supposedly so rosey. Those doubts have been put to bed as he wouldn't still be here if he didn't have assurances from wael.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 27, 2016 17:18:44 GMT
So we were told 4 bits of info. Leeds had asked permission to speak to DC, we said no unless they meet our conditions, we then offered a 3 year contract and DC signed. No need to panic, sounds as if from clubs position it went very smoothly albeit a bit rushed when Leeds started the ball rolling. I look forward to much eating of humble pie or re-writing of what some posters actually meant. Perhaps in future it might be good to wait for firm information and not go off on one like some have. I for one am delighted Wael and his associates are running our club. Onwards and upwards. UTG! Did I miss something? I'm certain that those (including me) who expressed frustration at the thought of DC leaving did explain their viewpoint. I didn't see one post slagging him off or that was critical of his potential departure that wasn't tempered with the caveat that they wanted him to stay, that he was a brilliant manager. My own frustrations were focused on what might have happened and I'm delighted that I got myself in a tizz over nothing. A thread about what manager and player you were most upset about about losing says everything. Supporters get down when they see the chance for the club to progress pushed back when assets leave. In times past its been inevitable, hopefully this shows its no longer the case. I couldn't be happier not to have my frustrations come to fruition. Well done for having absolute faith in everything. I've seen too much go wrong for BRFC to be that sure so quickly. Utg. I think it's because of the rollercoaster ride of emotions we have all been put through since xmas, pre takeover we were all wondering whether we would even have a club to support with the appeal looming, then takeover and we all get carried away with what it might mean, then promotion on the last day and the future looks even rosier. Then in typical rovers fashion it looks like we may have it all disrupted again, and wonder is it any different, are these owners the real deal if we still can't hold onto our best assets. I am now more optimistic on positive uwe news coming soon, and looks like the new owners may be everything we hoped they were.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 27, 2016 11:39:13 GMT
Opinions are opinions mate, was watered off with the silence but it's all turned out for the best. Three years means we can plan and move forward, no one can poach him on the cheap but that means the cost of sacking him is massive. My biggest worry was it dragging on for weeks and stuffing up our summer. What this also means is he believes in the new owner's to deliver on the stadium and transfer budget. Fair enough mate, gotta be expecting some stick for some of your comments though!
I know you were making them due to frustration but the poor bloke barely had 2 weeks off before all this started. Think comments like 'I think it's for the best now if he moves on...' etc were OTT.
Anyway, delighted with the news and hope now the players follow suit. Happy weekend gasheads!
my shoulders are broad enough to take it mate, humble pie on the menu later!
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 27, 2016 11:34:31 GMT
Better late than never!! Any club wanting him now will have to pay considerably more than 250k!! Until we're 21st in the league in September. come on, i think October is fair!
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 27, 2016 11:31:21 GMT
Better late than never!! Any club wanting him now will have to pay considerably more than 250k!! You must be gutted he's signed a new deal? Opinions are opinions mate, was watered off with the silence but it's all turned out for the best. Three years means we can plan and move forward, no one can poach him on the cheap but that means the cost of sacking him is massive. My biggest worry was it dragging on for weeks and stuffing up our summer. What this also means is he believes in the new owner's to deliver on the stadium and transfer budget.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 27, 2016 11:22:00 GMT
Better late than never!! Any club wanting him now will have to pay considerably more than 250k!!
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 26, 2016 22:27:07 GMT
If you bother to check your facts my first post on this forum was Oct 15 so i can hardly have been anti Clarke from day one. I have posted both positive and negative posts re his management, what i don't like are comments that elude to feelings towards the club and it's supporters that very quickly get called into question via subsequent actions or maybe lack of them. I remember when gerry made such remarks. He stood by them. I've had conversations, if you call it that, with you on the 'poisonous' forum. One little blip and out you come. Win or draw you missing. You could set your clock to it. It was a forum full of T bones. As for Clarkes remarks he hasn't gone back on his spur of the moment words yet. Wait until you at least have a reason then hang him if you must but remember he owes you,me or The Rovers nothing!! by not ruling himself out of the Leeds job he has gone back on his remarks. If you don't mean something don't say it, it only comes back to bite you on the arse. I have never been gullible enough to fall for these sorts of comments managers utter about how fantastic and special supporters are for this very reason.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 26, 2016 21:13:52 GMT
But those offers were made when his supposed feelings for us were still running strong, cue a mad Italian knocking at the door and they all go out the window. If he does stay now we are clearly his second choice and we will face this situation again and again whenever a championship club sacks their manager. We need someone who is going to get behind Wael's plans for the future of this club not someone who will have their head turned every five minutes. I don't know if you have a family to consider, but if you have and were offered a million pounds not to watch Rovers for a year would you consider it? This issue here is making out you have a connection with the fans and actually care about the club you manage and then keeping quiet when there is fevered speculation you might leave. Make no mistake dc will be well taken care of if he stays, obviously not as lucrative as the contract leeds would offer him but i don't think he or his family will have any money worries either way.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 26, 2016 20:38:32 GMT
But those offers were made when his supposed feelings for us were still running strong, cue a mad Italian knocking at the door and they all go out the window. If he does stay now we are clearly his second choice and we will face this situation again and again whenever a championship club sacks their manager. We need someone who is going to get behind Wael's plans for the future of this club not someone who will have their head turned every five minutes.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 26, 2016 18:30:29 GMT
Really don't agree with anything you have said in this post it is sounds like something my 9 year old daughter would say mid tantrum !!!! I wouldn't bother mate. This bloke has been anti Clarke from day one. Those minor blips three quarters through the season and this 'supporter' was one of the first with his crap. Forget what Clarke has done for Rovers and talk sh**e,that's the name of the game with the bitter ones with short noses. The seasons just finished but the usual suspects are out in force. If you bother to check your facts my first post on this forum was Oct 15 so i can hardly have been anti Clarke from day one. I have posted both positive and negative posts re his management, what i don't like are comments that elude to feelings towards the club and it's supporters that very quickly get called into question via subsequent actions or maybe lack of them. I remember when gerry made such remarks. He stood by them.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 26, 2016 17:22:17 GMT
Maybe it is best for all concerned now that he moves on. We are three days into this saga now and still no comment from dc, his stag doesn't start till monday and unless he is in a cave somewhere he knows exactly what the situation is, more so than even the media reports. Just a pity he offered contracts to many players who clearly aren't good enough for league one thus using up a big chunk of what will now almost certainly be someone else's wage budget. Cheers darrell. Really don't agree with anything you have said in this post it is sounds like something my 9 year old daughter would say mid tantrum !!!! unfortunately they are facts. Dc gave everyone contracts because he thought he would be here and now looks to have changed his mind in a fortnight. Another manager almost certainly won't want the likes of McChrystal and gosling in league one because they aren't league one players. Then again i expect our next manager will have actually managed in league one!
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 26, 2016 17:15:41 GMT
What ever Darrell decides, I think he is losing a bit of affection from real gas fans. He has led us to believe he is 100% gas then the first time a club came asking he at this moment anyway is thinking about it even though the club as offered him a new well improved 3 year deal. Remember the club stuck with him when we were relegated otherwise he would be back with Salisbury. He has done a fantastic job since then and I hope he stays but every day that passes without comment I feel he is losing a bit of love with the fans. If he is not 100% with us then maybe it's best he moves on and get someone in who is. He has got by so far with his affinity with the club and supporters and has expected the players to be the same as him which has been great, if he has lost some of this I think it will reflect on his ability to manage . He has also not helped the club by offering contracts to all players, who if we were honest wouldn't get contracts with othe league one clubs, if he decides to jump ship. In my opinion to go to Leeds would be crazy even Neil war nock is warning not too. On a bright note if he moves on Iam sure there will be a lot of good applicants, maybe an older, wiser clone like Ian Holloway would be a good move Maybe it is best for all concerned now that he moves on. We are three days into this saga now and still no comment from dc, his stag doesn't start till monday and unless he is in a cave somewhere he knows exactly what the situation is, more so than even the media reports. Just a pity he offered contracts to many players who clearly aren't good enough for league one thus using up a big chunk of what will now almost certainly be someone else's wage budget. Cheers darrell.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 26, 2016 5:59:36 GMT
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 25, 2016 22:14:08 GMT
ahh good old pre season, 25 pages of speculation and invented conclusions in 2 days! For what it's worth I think he'll stay but will talk to them if the opportunity arises (who wouldn't?). Their owner is a clown and DC, I think, will see this straight away. DC is also a 'scummer' and knowing a Leeds fan myself they will not like that one bit!! If he goes then we move on, Lockyer has already signed thank god so we get someone else in to continue DC's project. I have faith Wael and Hamer can find the right man. What do Wael and Hamer know about picking managers? Dunno but will be very interesting. I could see Wael going for big name recently retired perm player currently managing a prem u21s team successfully. Maybe this is what they wanted all along and this unexpected promotion derailed the plans....until now.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 25, 2016 22:12:41 GMT
Christ alive I hope DC doesn't read this damn forum, if I were him I'd be incensed by some of the comments I have read on this thread. He's just brought us from the brink to league 1 in 2 seasons FFS, back to back promotions and some are writing him of as gone, have some effing respect, wait for his decision and I'm quite sure that will be to stay with us. He loves our club and our fans, god knows why after reading some posters comments on here, I mean come on why are we even picking the next manager when DC is still at the helm. As somebody who stands by me in the blackthorn always sings to the opposition. Going nowhere going nowhere. Keep the faith.UTG The comments that are seeming to have a go at DC are born of frustration I suspect, not a lack of respect or a lack of wishing he would stay. Just seems like he wants to go, and that is so at odds with the DC we've seen to date. Absolutely spot on, the first club that comes calling and all that's been said before goes out the window. I remember gerry turning down various first division clubs before he eventually left.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 25, 2016 21:59:00 GMT
Silence = i want to go but rovers won't let me talk to Leeds. Silence = he's tied to a frigging lamppost dressed as a slutty nurse in Vegas after a 2 week bender enjoying a well earned break not long before his wedding day. Get. A. Grip. You. Utter. Clown. Attack the post not the poster and all that but your view is dillusional. Yeah he's completely cut off from all communication, and anyway his stag do is a week away. He's already indirectly spoken to Leeds. He knows what's on the table, the tears he shed 3 weeks ago aren't even dry yet.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 25, 2016 21:27:24 GMT
Silence = i want to go but rovers won't let me talk to Leeds. You want a trampoline so you can jump to a conclusion quicker? The more time that goes by and the continuing silence from dc only says one thing.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 25, 2016 21:24:07 GMT
Are you saying he is unaware of the situation?!! What do you expect him to do? Silence = i want to go but rovers won't let me talk to Leeds.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 25, 2016 21:20:22 GMT
What the f**ks happening, it's taken 2 days and people now hate DC, calling him a liar and want him to go. He's on holiday for starters! f**king hell Are you saying he is unaware of the situation?!!
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