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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 31, 2022 9:25:49 GMT
There's a simple solution to this, get some decent facilities like every other club has managed to achieve. It's only gonna get worse. And still the silence prevails!
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 30, 2022 19:33:19 GMT
Keep reducing the capacity it will always be a sell out!
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 29, 2022 21:35:50 GMT
Love or Hate the Ted's, they have a fantastic Stadium...... What the F##k have we got. Sadly we look Non League to them. Sorry. I just had to get it off my chest. We need action and we need it now ffs, I can't afford it' but somewhere there is someone who can deliver. Just won't happen in my lifetime sadly Amazing how many of our fans are still satisfied with a joke of a ground that isn't fit for purpose.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 27, 2022 20:46:22 GMT
Yes other clubs in all sports move forward.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 27, 2022 20:43:00 GMT
Wael's owned the club one way or another for 5 years, it's pretty clear he headed the failed UWE talks, if the argument is that Hani wouldn't sign the deal off then why hasn't Wael reopened negotiations in the last 2 years as nothing else seems to have been built on the land. What I don't get is how fans can say give him time, f off if you want an update etc, when are fans actually going to demand answers, another 5 years, 10 years or simply never as watching games at the Mem is a good day out? What does "demanding answers" achieve? It's a complex problem. Chucking toys out of prams doesn't make the stadium get planned/built any quicker. These things can take decades. Doesn't seem to be complex for other clubs.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 27, 2022 4:51:35 GMT
Luton and Griffin park never had tents as seating accommodation Yes, not remotely comparable. You should not be allowed to play in the 5th best league in the world with tents!
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 26, 2022 22:04:40 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I'd be delighted if the club had some positive stadium news for us, but it's not as life or death as you are making it out to be. We need as stadium to move forward, but capacity aside there isn't too much wrong with the mem. Decent catering, good bars, nice location, great atmosphere... Spot on. Brentford managed to get themselves out of League 1 and sustain themselves as a top half Championship team for 5 years while at Griffin Park. Luton have bounced back from The Conference like us and sustained themselves in The Championship too. Both Griffin Park and Kenilworth Rd although they may have a few more seats than The Mem, capacity wise they're not to dissimilar. So while of course we need a new stadium for the long term, getting to The Championship and staying there is not impossible in the short term. Kenilworth Rd and Griffin Park are/were 100% covered with far better facilities than the mem, and are proper football grounds. Not even sure we'd be allowed into the championship with the mem in it's current state.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 26, 2022 21:30:46 GMT
If the stadium issue isn't resolved it won't be long until there isn't a club, the time is fast approaching where sweeping it under the carpet won't wash anymore. If you have such a negative outlook and are so convinced that Rovers won’t exist soon why don’t you just find another club to support now? We would all love a new stadium and in the absence of anyone else coming forward Wael is the best hope we have of getting there, I for one trust he will be doing his best to make that happen. Your constant sniping is tiresome and I’m sure the fan base will manage without you. It's a realistic outlook I'm afraid, people are burying their heads in the sand, the mem is not fit for purpose, the capacity reductions have hammered home this point. There is absolutely no future for the club at the mem in it's current state. Sorry I don't have a pair of your rose tinted glasses.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 26, 2022 20:47:57 GMT
And there will still be people saying be thankful we still have a club to support, thankyou wael! So you’re not grateful to have a club? Assuming of course you do actually support Rovers? Do you want Higgs back? Things were going so well under him or perhaps you’re aware of some mysterious billionaire gashead waiting in the wings? If the stadium issue isn't resolved it won't be long until there isn't a club, the time is fast approaching where sweeping it under the carpet won't wash anymore.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 26, 2022 20:28:18 GMT
Im not sure it would’ve worked on the same site anyway, an indoor arena and outdoor football stadium are two different beasts. However the adjacent wasteland which is now developed with warehouses, car garage, Village hotel and offices would’ve been ideal for a stadium. What difference would it make if a football stadium was next to the Arena or on the other side of the A38, they'd both use the same car parking facilities and transport network. The fact we didn't enquire and the FM shows no signs of materialising does make you start to wonder if Wael has any real intentions of building a new stadium. Just keep feeding vague intentions to the fanbase, that's enough. He must be amazed he gets away with it!
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 26, 2022 20:25:47 GMT
‘The year is 2057, the Memorial Stadium has just had its capacity reduced for the 34th year in a row, meanwhile everyone is still waiting for the Conygar exclusivity period to end’ And there will still be people saying be thankful we still have a club to support, thankyou wael!
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 23, 2022 18:37:48 GMT
This thread should be renamed to biggest smokescreen ever.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 23, 2022 11:45:46 GMT
If for arguments sake we were going to redo the Mem then to maximise the land the pitch would have to be rotated. That means that the east stand needs to be completely demolished and would render the blackthorn and south stands completely useless. So we would have to move out for 2 years to complete. If you work on the basis of cost for Brentford’s ground then redoing the Mem is going to cost £75m + rent somewhere £2m per season + loss of matchday revenue and existing revenue the Mem makes. So rough net cost of redevelopment is the better part of £85m. The Mem would come with severe restrictions for opportunity. Forget any industrial commercial opportunity, unless it’s shops or a gym and even then income isn’t groundbreaking good enough to make it feasible The housing is far too close so you can rule out heavy industrial. You won’t be able to have anything other than car boot sales so you can forget concerts, shows, or any other late night money making extravaganza. Hotels and residential, what people are going to want to stay on Glos Rd? Too far for a convenient walk to town, Clifton or Cabot circus. There are hotels aplenty at Aztec West/Cribbs. The Mem, as a site for a stadium is an utterly dead duck. A new stadium IS the best way forward. At some point if this has not been achieved the club will have to upgrade the Mem. The easiest way construction wise i would guess is full demolition with Rovers relocated to cheltenham/fgr/bath/swindon. Other than that. It would have to be total demolition of the thatchers end and buildings. Move the pitch northwards 25 ft . Construct a temporary stand at south end twice the current size at least. Build a new 2 tier stand at the north end (thatchers) 3-4000 mix of safe standing and seats. At this point the sw stand and current away standing will be partially or fully lost. The capacity during this phase of building would probably drop to 3500 terrace and 3500 seats (7000 total). Which would be more than what would travel to another city to watch Rovers. Once complete it would be the east stand and terrace to go. I would opt for safe standing on the lower tier and seating on 2 higher tiers. This is where any outside income sources like hotel ,conf etc get put in. I would also look to build a line of apartments the length of the carpark.Which could have parking underneath. If this new main stand includes new changing rooms it leaves the door open to demolish the west stand. Overall , i would have a lower tier bowl of safe standing all around the pitch. With an upper tier of seating all around. The main stand however would have a box and seating tier and the main seating area would be bigger than other parts of the ground. End capacity 17-20,000 . This would be fine for a competitive championship club. The FM stadium will be 30-40,000 though . 30-40000😂😂😂
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 22, 2022 11:33:52 GMT
Clearly wasn't sold out! Games
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 22, 2022 8:28:52 GMT
Needs to be a line in the sand date where we accept a new stadium isn't viable and we move on and start redeveloping the mem, either gradually or as a complete rebuild. Why? We already know redeveloping the Mem isn’t viable so why pour money down the drain doing it? If you had an investment property with a dated kitchen, you wouldn’t put a new one in if the rent you could charge wouldn’t increase. Redeveloping the Mem does nothing but lose money. It’s a vanity project to have something shiny. Eventually a new site will be identified (if it hasn’t already) and the roi will be sufficient that it benefits the club. I share everyone’s frustration at the length of time it has taken so far but in the real world a new stadium is the only option and worth waiting for. Never gonna happen, its a convenient smokescreen.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 22, 2022 5:47:43 GMT
Needs to be a line in the sand date where we accept a new stadium isn't viable and we move on and start redeveloping the mem, either gradually or as a complete rebuild.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 21, 2022 20:48:26 GMT
People talk on here as if decent facilities are the preserve of rich clubs and it isn't fair to expect our owner to provide them. It's the norm in the football league now, we are very much the exception, and there will come a time when the authorities will tell us such.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 21, 2022 5:59:10 GMT
Removal of family stand should have created an extra 300 terrace places but even before the enforced reduction we had no increase in capacity, now the plan to offer away teams variable allocations seems to be suspect. Why aren't we ever told the truth?
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 20, 2022 15:39:44 GMT
I thought what was the away terrace is now a home terrace for this season and that away fans would have some or all of the south stand as required? Exactly what I thought after hearing what TG had said about plans for this coming season. Seems to be constantly changing!
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 20, 2022 13:00:35 GMT
I did about 18 months/two years ago and repeated it a few times since. I’d say that is total nonsense. Never, ever, has Wael said that the Mem was up for sale for a pittance, never indicated we were so in trouble that selling it for a pittance was the only solution and has proven, quite unequivocally that he is willing to invest in the infrastructure to the benefit of the club and not it’s detriment. Perhaps the developers had a figure in mind and offered it, but it doesn’t mean we ever considered accepting it. I don’t think anyone is perpetuating a myth, it’s obvious we need a new stadium and for now, Wael has said he is dedicated to sorting one. He also promised us a training ground which he has fulfilled. Neither projects are overnight deliveries. Hes only been here for 7 years. I don’t think any of us veteran gasheads appreciated how far behind the curve we were in every department. We have had to do more than catch up, we have had to reinvent and build a new club. Well to be fair we needed a stadium, and he bought a club with planing permission to build one!
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