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Post by mrgasman on Mar 14, 2024 8:43:27 GMT
Personally I don't see the Coughlan comparison, his side was built around a strong defence and a midfield set up to stop the opposition playing. On Tues we mixed things up yes played some direct stuff but the majority of those passes were diagonal. They played with wing backs who were both very high, we looked to get Vale & Sinclair into the space they left. We have good technical players in our midfield, Evans & Conteh both had plenty of touches, in a Coughlan side they'd have spent most of the game watching the ball go over their heads. It was blatantly obvious we needed to tighten up defensively but I certainly haven't seen any indication that we've gone ultra defensive, 2 clean sheets in 3 but we've also created plenty of chances. Basically what I said, it’s not Cogs, it’s a mix of three styles as Moyes did at Everton and what Trollope and DC did. I can’t see the resemblances I’m sorry. MT has a completely different character to DC. I’m not even sure what MT’s style is yet. Hence why it’ll be interesting next season to see his real style of play and tactics.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 22:46:17 GMT
Sorry, are you saying Luke Thomas isn’t good enough and Connor Taylor? I have used Graham coughlan as an example as I have DC so it’s not about Barton at all… Barton has gone.. and I understand why, let’s move on mate. If you read my previous comments you will see. Yeah, I can’t say I’m raving over Taylor but he needs time and the first 10 games of next season will show what he is about 👍 I'm not saying that at all, you have misread my post. I'm saying look at the summer signings and all bar 2 are either injured or not good enough. I sought to clarify who was in which camp by the brackets. My mistake. apologies. UTG 🔵⚪️
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 22:16:23 GMT
Some understand football, some just see it two ways, hoof ball or passing football. MT is very much like DC in his style, it’s a similar version to which Moyes played at Everton with no money and now at West Ham. A proper mix of percentage football, passing, strong full backs, happy to get the diagonals in early. All three of these managers have never played a possession based football game like Garner did and Barton and failed spectacularly this season at the likes of Burton. Trolls also got the ball early into Lambert and Walker, this was lot of time on the floor feeding off them and DC with Ellis and Gaffeny. You watch the top possession sides, Arsenal don’t even use a striker at times, City never did last season. Bristol Rovers don’t ever have the budget in Div1 to assemble a side like Derby who can go back to front, press and pass the ball constantly. In my opinion MT is the perfect fit for us just as Moyes was for Everton. Are you MT's Gashead mate he referred to in a recent interview, as your continued praising of him is a bit strange. I can't see any similarities with DC, they really are like chalk and cheese. As far as strong full backs, that falls at the first hurdle when they are Gordon & Grant on the one wing and Hoole & Hunt, when he's ever fit, on the other. Yeah, I mean I often look at Matty Taylor and think how lucky we are to have a manager who is compared to David Moyes, not only that but a manager who has managed Manchester United, Everton and West Ham. This is hilarious! Stay off the ciders mate!
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 17:18:30 GMT
Hmmm, shame. It’s good to hear other people’s views and ideas of the game, all I seem to get back is Joey B comments, as I’ve said above I understand why he was sacked, we’ve moved on from that but right now I cannot see how Taylor has upgraded our side. I hope he does recruit well in the summer and the Gas can do well as that’s what we all want. How can he upgrade the side in one window when JB and Jennings blew the budget on the bunch of crocks and Grandads? You get the JB comments back at you because you are having a go at MT everytime we lose or draw and making the comparisons with JB. We have to learn to be tight at the back because we cannot rely on scoring one more than the opposition even more so now we dont have Collins and LT is injured and Javani, who only makes the odd contribution every 10 games, means that we'll lose more than we will win/draw. Losing Collins and LT means we have lost all of our pace and attacking threat that makes teams think and double mark leaving space for the likes of Evans to get into the pockets of holes in attacking play which then gives Martin time to get into space. MT has come into a midtable squad full of poor squad players and fragile players that cant play 20 games a season or more and that is the fault of Jennings and JB not MT. Players like Wilson, Hunt, Ward, Gordon and Hoole will hopefully be on their way at the end of the season and we can sign some quality that can actually last more than half a season to replace them and the signings of Conteh and Baggot show the type of player we will be after. Let me put it another way, all of JBs summer signings bar Martin and Vale are either not good enough (Cox, Crama, Brown, Woods, Bogarde), Retired (Friend) or broken (LT, Wilson, Hunt, Taylor). What is it you're expecting MT to do in 4 months and 1 window with this bunch? Sorry, are you saying Luke Thomas isn’t good enough and Connor Taylor? I have used Graham coughlan as an example as I have DC so it’s not about Barton at all… Barton has gone.. and I understand why, let’s move on mate. If you read my previous comments you will see. Yeah, I can’t say I’m raving over Taylor but he needs time and the first 10 games of next season will show what he is about 👍
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 11:28:29 GMT
For a load of mainly older people on here that have apparently been supporting Rovers for decades I am amazed how little some seem to understand about lower league football! iFollow is probably a bad thing for fans for tough midweek away games. Too much belief that we should turn up and walkover them. Taylor identified we were soft at the back and rarely kept clean sheets. He is fixiging that. Most good managers sort that first and then look to be more expansive and attacking once you have a solid defence to build from. As for the comments from the same few about Gordon, and especially Hoole each week. You clearly dont understand the game. Stats based and unbiased views scored Hoole well yesterday (and against Derby) but people love to pick on a player or two until they are hounded out... and then are probably the same ones that say why dont we have more youngsters coming through etc etc. Maybe head off to your summer holidays and come back refreshed next season. I agree with you in regards to Hoole and Gordan. Although isn’t this why the new owners want a premium grade training facilities so we can then have an under 21’s squad? So at the moment there isn’t many youngsters coming through but certainly something that will change in the future.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 9:23:47 GMT
I have to admit the football being played is dire. A few times we got caught in possession trying to play out from the back. Whats the point when all we did all night was kick and rush? I completely agree, coughlan got wins and even said himself it isn’t attractive but it’s getting us the points, I’m all for that if it’s doing the job but this is dire! DC took over a Cheltenham team who hadn’t scored in 11 games, miles off play offs to it being possible of staying up and scoring goals again. Even lost 2 of his strikers during this period. He’s clearly put his own character into the side. Taylor… I struggle to see what has changed. He deserves the time/ summer to rebuild of course but when us fans are paying good money to watch them ect we have absolutely every right to voice our opinions so long as it isn’t insulting.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 9:17:20 GMT
Matt Taylor reminds me of a particular type of paint. Flat Matt. It does the job covers the cracks uninspiring and dull Don’t let roadyreturns see you say that… he’ll have a meltdown 😂
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 9:12:41 GMT
What are you on about? Hero has gone? Joey B had to go… simple as that, nothing wrong with wanting a manager with some fight in them. DC showing it with Cheltenham, cotterill doing it with forest Green. One thing you have to accept in life is people will have differences of opinions so maybe put the tampon away 👍. unfortunately he can't.if you question a result or performance he goes into bully mode and starts hurling all sorts of personal abuse at everyone. Hmmm, shame. It’s good to hear other people’s views and ideas of the game, all I seem to get back is Joey B comments, as I’ve said above I understand why he was sacked, we’ve moved on from that but right now I cannot see how Taylor has upgraded our side. I hope he does recruit well in the summer and the Gas can do well as that’s what we all want.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 9:07:55 GMT
Honestly, these two idiots are Rovers haters, Fleetwood just stuck 4 past Wigan at home and drew 0-0 at Stevenage. Only these ex worshipers of the past manager could hammer a clean sheet at Fleetwood. If Hoole scores his sitter last night, we are saying great win but the two above looking for the negatives again. IF Hoole scored, “IFS” get you nowhere in life. IF your 6 lottery numbers came in you’d have been a millionnaire… what’s your point?
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 9:04:01 GMT
Oh dear, a manager happy with a 0-0 draw against a relegation spot side that we were unable to score against over 80+ minutes. This guy concentrates on a clean sheet against Fleetwood… do it against Lincoln and then I’ll give praise, better still, go for a clean sheet every game and get the attack right as well Taylor so we can score 👍. And the other hater, here he is as well, desperate for us to do bad so they can get onto the manager, your hero has gone! What are you on about? Hero has gone? Joey B had to go… simple as that, nothing wrong with wanting a manager with some fight in them. DC showing it with Cheltenham, cotterill doing it with forest Green. One thing you have to accept in life is people will have differences of opinions so maybe put the tampon away 👍.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 8:37:56 GMT
Agreed to a point. If Big John didn't seem to lose his way in front of goal, maybe MT would have played two up front a few times by now? Then again all season we have been short of forwards. Still, better to wait until the summer and get a player or three they actually want, than waste the Collins money on whoever was available. Good to see Greenslade score and apparently start playing well in the National League, so maybe he might get a few chances from the bench next season as 4/5th choice. I can see Martin starting about 15 and being supersub for the rest of the games next season. Oh dear, a manager happy with a 0-0 draw against a relegation spot side that we were unable to score against over 80+ minutes. This guy concentrates on a clean sheet against Fleetwood… do it against Lincoln and then I’ll give praise, better still, go for a clean sheet every game and get the attack right as well Taylor so we can score 👍. 180+ minutes.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 13, 2024 8:37:26 GMT
Seems as if we have now gone back to coughlan ball. A packed turgid defensive line with one guy up top to score a goal.all them wasted years after ipswich Agreed to a point. If Big John didn't seem to lose his way in front of goal, maybe MT would have played two up front a few times by now? Then again all season we have been short of forwards. Still, better to wait until the summer and get a player or three they actually want, than waste the Collins money on whoever was available. Good to see Greenslade score and apparently start playing well in the National League, so maybe he might get a few chances from the bench next season as 4/5th choice. I can see Martin starting about 15 and being supersub for the rest of the games next season. Oh dear, a manager happy with a 0-0 draw against a relegation spot side that we were unable to score against over 80+ minutes. This guy concentrates on a clean sheet against Fleetwood… do it against Lincoln and then I’ll give praise, better still, go for a clean sheet every game and get the attack right as well Taylor so we can score 👍.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 10, 2024 18:57:05 GMT
What are your predictions for the match against Fleetwood Town on Tuesday 12/03/2024? 01. Total Attendance Prediction : 02. Away following contingent : The deadline for entry is 1745 hours. TWO hours before kick off. Good luck one and all. (Can a moderator please move this into the usual section. Temporarily covering for brads213.) I’m going for 287 away fans.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 10, 2024 9:25:47 GMT
One does wonder though who's winding who up. Who seems to get very hot under the collar about nothing. I love it pal, keep it coming 👍 I just thought I’d take the heat off toppergas for a weekend that was all 😂. People have all differences of opinions ect but some on here do seem to get all worked up if somebody has a different view than theirs. As long as there is no abuse ect then I’m all for it! Makes the thread more interesting.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 9, 2024 19:06:34 GMT
Of course, I was wrong in what I first said in my message. I wouldn’t go as far as to say I would be proud of our justice system but that’s just my opinion. On another note what a great win for England Rugby 🏴. Have a good weekend. UTG! Everyone loves a last minute drop goal. Definitely mate! I was expecting a thumping before the game tbf. We looked decent.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 9, 2024 18:52:12 GMT
Yeah - whatever the cause it was still unable to go ahead due to weak/lack of evidence. For all we know his wife could have lied? Mason greenwood’s girlfriend drew mascara on her own face to look like she had a black eye ( according to her close friends). We don’t know what happens behind closed doors. Hitting woman is wrong and I don’t condone it but at the same time they both seem happy, have a new kid ect so would rather let them be concerned with their lives instead of us. Personally if I was to go on a witch hunt it would be Prince Andrew I’d want in front of a jury - not the Joey Barton’s of the world. Why do you keep posting about the subject then when most of us moved on long ago? Because I was replying to the messages that had been sent to me… have a day off mate 😂.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 9, 2024 18:46:57 GMT
Geez, ok, let’s pick things out my message, ok, In order to be summons to court you have to be charged by the cps. They decide whether the case is strong enough and there is sufficient evidence for there to be a court hearing/trial. If you are then found to be guilty by the jury/judge you are then convicted. It’s as simple as that but there are lots of loopholes hence there being solicitors. You can be arrested for a drink drive offence, fall out your car and blow 3 times over the limit and still be found not guilty IF certain procedures were not followed. I hope this correlates with your own knowledge. Of course the legal system makes sure that proper process is undertaken. That is only right. The court system really is something to be proud of in the UK. The thing is, when you say things like: "Let’s go by facts here… " and you have got the facts wrong, it is a little embarrassing for you. As others have mentioned, the case was stayed. You cannot say if JB was guilty or innocent. The only thing you can say is that the main witness at that point in her life wasn't going to say the same things to the court that she said on camera to the police. Of course, I was wrong in what I first said in my message. I wouldn’t go as far as to say I would be proud of our justice system but that’s just my opinion. On another note what a great win for England Rugby 🏴. Have a good weekend. UTG!
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 9, 2024 18:15:32 GMT
Yes, you have to be charged in order to go to court. The trial didn’t go ahead because of the “lack of evidence” to go ahead with a trial, basically the case wasn’t strong enough. Either way he didn’t get convicted so that’s as good as not guilty. Did he commit the offence…? Who knows I wasn’t there but as they say it’s not what you can prove… it’s what you can prove in court that matters hence why people get cases thrown out due to loopholes, having expensive solicitors ect fraudulent judges that get underhand payments the list is endless. So, it sounds like you do understand the system. This is what you said: "Let’s go by facts here… Did Barton get charged for hitting his wife then? I’m sure Joey got his team mate on a night out but then again if somebody intentionally set my shirt on fire I’d probably do the same. No doubt he’s a very outspoken man who doesn’t mince his words but it’s better to know who somebody is than have somebody who wears many masks" Now you realise that your post was factually incorrect? Geez, ok, let’s pick things out my message, ok, In order to be summons to court you have to be charged by the cps. They decide whether the case is strong enough and there is sufficient evidence for there to be a court hearing/trial. If you are then found to be guilty by the jury/judge you are then convicted. It’s as simple as that but there are lots of loopholes hence there being solicitors. You can be arrested for a drink drive offence, fall out your car and blow 3 times over the limit and still be found not guilty IF certain procedures were not followed. I hope this correlates with your own knowledge.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 9, 2024 18:12:10 GMT
He was charged with the offences - that’s why he was in court, but the charges were not proven and he was found not guilty. I don't even think it got to the guilty/not guilty stage. The main witness was his wife. She then decided to change her story. Yeah - whatever the cause it was still unable to go ahead due to weak/lack of evidence. For all we know his wife could have lied? Mason greenwood’s girlfriend drew mascara on her own face to look like she had a black eye ( according to her close friends). We don’t know what happens behind closed doors. Hitting woman is wrong and I don’t condone it but at the same time they both seem happy, have a new kid ect so would rather let them be concerned with their lives instead of us. Personally if I was to go on a witch hunt it would be Prince Andrew I’d want in front of a jury - not the Joey Barton’s of the world.
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 9, 2024 18:04:10 GMT
No he didn’t 😂 - he got cleared of all charges. Dude, someone gets charged before they go to court. JB wasn't found guilty but he was most certainly charged. Yes, you have to be charged in order to go to court. The trial didn’t go ahead because of the “lack of evidence” to go ahead with a trial, basically the case wasn’t strong enough. Either way he didn’t get convicted so that’s as good as not guilty. Did he commit the offence…? Who knows I wasn’t there but as they say it’s not what you can prove… it’s what you can prove in court that matters hence why people get cases thrown out due to loopholes, having expensive solicitors ect fraudulent judges that get underhand payments the list is endless.
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