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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 16:40:06 GMT
Why wasn't Starnes at the ground when the referee was inspecting the pitch, all week the weather forecast has been touch and go, if he'd been there which as CEO he should have been he might have had some influence over the referees decision. Claims he was at the training ground, what for, putting anti freeze in the builders compressor. No wonder he is so angry, caught out again. There's enough to be watered off about the board, etc, atm, without just making stuff up.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 14:21:55 GMT
Talk of the game being played tomorrow now. Good.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 13:34:52 GMT
Anybody asked Barton if he wants the job-Reading some of the comments on here I would think twice about coming if i was him. People want Mr Clean but hes not avaliable Is there any evidence that JB is even wanting a job atm, or would even want the Rovers job if every Gashead personally wrote to him begging him to come?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 12:06:33 GMT
I know why, but you can't then just say 'he's not afraid to speak his mind.' I didn't say Coles said it, but that's the point, he didn't say why. Therefore... Words mean stuff. Didn’t he post on social media that Garner should never have been sacked and Tisdale is taking us down?? If that’s not speaking your mind is I don’t know what is? Just because the Starnes Post doesn’t do an article in it doesn’t mean it’s not relevant Didn't he just like some posts? If that is speaking your mind then I don't know what isn't.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 11:44:05 GMT
The next guy... its DC. Everything that those managers failed to do... I think DC has. GC failed to show club loyalty and put himself ahead of Bristol Rovers. DC always put the badge first. Garner made basic mistakes played with too little emphasise on getting the ball through the 'transistions' quickly. A huge element of DCs purring play- is pulling a opposite fullback high and wide for the switch ball. Which stretches the space and creates an "out". Tisdale- no identity. It might be unfair on him. How much was I expecting after 18 games but... at least with DC I know what "good" DC football looks like. It would be a fantastic litmus test to reveal the ability of some of out players. If DC joined us, he would be showing disloyalty to Walsall.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 11:09:15 GMT
We did that with BG (or at least two half seasons) and it failed. That doesn’t mean the strategy is bad, it means that the wrong manager to implement it was hired and possibly the wrong players or the wrong balance of players. Given that those players have failed under a second manager it seems only natural to me that you then look higher up the food chain at who brought in those managers and who introduced those players to the club. This strategy won’t be successful with the club in it’s current state, I’m very confident of that. I agree it's a good strategy. But, in addition, it's also worth saying to Carlts that Garner failed.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 10:56:10 GMT
Pick a strategy and back it to the hilt over a minimum of a full season. We did that with BG (or at least two half seasons) and it failed.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 10:54:55 GMT
Like Payne, Nichols, and JCH? (JCH was a journeyman striker with no sell-on value until we turned him into a development player that can increase in value (however you're defining that)) Nichols abs Payne were signed prior to the period we were discussing and JCH was 24 years old when we signed him. Lots of potential and opportunity to sell on at a higher price. A journeyman striker with no sell on value is what I said. Yeah, but my point is Payne was no different to JCH, essentially, when we signed them, except one turned into resell value and one didn't. Also Nichols looked like we had a player who would develop into resell value, but he didn't. So you're defining things by the result rather than what was intended. The idea that we intended Payne to have no resell value when we signed him is obviously stupid.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 10:29:16 GMT
Swindon may be sh**, and may not have a recognised keeper, but they at least have a striker in Broadbent. Be nice to have him back he could replace most of our defenders and most of our attackers. Has he been converted to a striker?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 10:08:50 GMT
Big Jock, I tried the Spam and Peach slices, thought it was great, may I suggest Pilchard and Ice Cream Soda?.... What flavour ice cream?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 10:06:51 GMT
I think you are right. It’s clear Wael will only spend money development players that can increase in value. He won’t buy journeyman strikers with no sell on value, rightly or wrongly we can see that is his position. Like Payne, Nichols, and JCH? (JCH was a journeyman striker with no sell-on value until we turned him into a development player that can increase in value (however you're defining that))
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 9:52:26 GMT
Except he left under the guise of 'family reasons' instead of actually speaking his mind. You know when players / coaches / managers leave they very rarely slag the club off in public. Why do you think that is? Also Coles never said it was family reasons did he? The club did. I know why, but you can't then just say 'he's not afraid to speak his mind.' I didn't say Coles said it, but that's the point, he didn't say why. Therefore... Words mean stuff.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 9:49:55 GMT
Except he left under the guise of 'family reasons' instead of actually speaking his mind. That may have been an agreement he reached with the club, rather than cite reasons which could possibly indicate turmoil behind the scenes. Of course, but the fact is, he didn't speak his mind. I just find it amazing that in a thread full of speculation about the events, because we don't know the events, because we haven't been told them, because of, as you (most likely) rightly point out, an agreement with the club, someone posts that he's not afraid to speak his mind. Most of this thread is because he didn't say the real reason, so obviously he was afraid to speak his mind.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 9:41:44 GMT
Great news Coles is back...spoken very highly of by prem level goalkeepers and obviously not afraid to speak his mind! Except he left under the guise of 'family reasons' instead of actually speaking his mind.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 13, 2021 9:36:16 GMT
Can't be many teams on such an terrible run as us, with such awful leadership, manager issues, unbalanced squad, water poor morale, and disgruntled fans, but Swindon are one of them. You have to think, even this early, that the loser goes down. Not that the winner won't go down, too, but they'll have three more points.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 12, 2021 19:06:09 GMT
Perhaps we should have 2 threads. A next manager thread, and a next Tuesday night manager thread, because someone’s going to have to manage us in the games when Barton’s at home because of the tag around his ankle Maybe we could have him and Stendel as co-managers.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 12, 2021 18:55:37 GMT
City keeper is funny - 7 day loan despite the fact that Swindon keeper has returned to Bournemouth I assume for the rest of season ? Could go one of two ways, hopefully he will chuck a couple in for us ...... Our under 23s scored a couple past him.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 12, 2021 18:52:18 GMT
Why do you think he was a failure at Mansfield? Player power, similar to Tisdale failing at Rovers is my guess? No manager can just be "lucky" over 46 games, signing JCH was a bit of luck but we still had a decent defence behind him. I'm not suggesting he was lucky, not at all, but still the difference in his tenures at the two clubs are so massively different, it would need a bit of explanation.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 12, 2021 18:40:00 GMT
You do sometimes wonder if many people actually went to the games under Coughlan or saw his interviews. As for the games, if defending for 90mins and getting torn apart and randomly having a striker who bangs them in for fun is indicative of a well run, coherent team with excellent growth prospects, it’s beyond me. If it’s “well he got results” then yes, he did, for a bit. Lots of teams get up the league for a bit. Then they come back down, as we inevitably would, if you had your eyes open at games. David Brent’s branch was the best performing branch, and he said “judge me on results” I did not get the impression of a tactical genius from his interviews. It screamed “league 2” being honest. It id have been in charge, I would have said wham bam thanks for keeping the team warm now we’re going to give it to someone who isn’t a drill instructor. It seems to be mainly old guys who like coughlan - or retrospectively do (a hell of a lot of GC rose tinters hated it at the time) I suppose that route one, lump it; don’t cry sonny be a man type stuff was all the rage once, before we had balls lighter than anvils and pitches with grass on them. Coughlan was the pits. He was lucky. The football was utter dross and we were only in league one at all because he shat a golden egg in JCH. I remember going to the games. I remember his appointment. I remember the results. I remember the form table. 'Lots of teams get up the league for a bit' - sure, but a calendar year of top six form constitutes more than a bit I'd suggest. This 'it wasn't sustainable' nonsense should be called out but it's factually flawed. Love him or hate him, the guy got results and got the best out of his limited resources. It wasn't luck. Why do you think he was a failure at Mansfield?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 12, 2021 14:08:30 GMT
Barton’s record makes no difference to me as to whether he can rescue this club. This is a good point, and the debate seems to be about whether you 'mind' him or not. That seems to overshadow the issue of whether he'd be a good manager for us, more fundamentally. I'd suggest he's only an average L1 manager. Has not been massively (but somewhat) successful, with a decently run club with decent resources. And might not necessarily be a decent fit with our club, in any case. Istm it's not a no-brainer to employ him, if you can get over the disciplinary record.
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