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Post by Gastafari on Feb 11, 2024 10:31:31 GMT
But this is the issue, 4 points off Pompey with two different managers, Barton spanked Wigan, but what is clear is……….the squad is weak and inconsistent, the first 13 can beat anyone. This isn’t MT’s inconsistent squad, he’s been given pocket money in the window to spend, why are we not giving him the summer window and patience? Agree. Barton spanked Wigan but then lost to the eventually relegated Accrington who bullied us off the park just as Fleetwood and Burton did. This is a steep learning curve for our loanees. Sadly others will benefit from their eventual toughening up.... People gave Barton a relegation and shedloads of time. Something they won't give to Taylor! This squad is far better than the one Garner, Tisdale, Widdrington and then Barton couldn't get a tune out of. That team was a disgrace This one although disjointed, isn't, there is quality within it. However the last 2 home performances are as bad as anything the Garner/Tisdale/Widdrington/Barton team put out imo
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 11, 2024 9:54:13 GMT
Yet we've took 4 points of Portsmouth, outplayed Barnsley, beaten Bolton away etc etc But this is the issue, 4 points off Pompey with two different managers, Barton spanked Wigan, but what is clear is……….the squad is weak and inconsistent, the first 13 can beat anyone. This isn’t MT’s inconsistent squad, he’s been given pocket money in the window to spend, why are we not giving him the summer window and patience? I will give him time. However, the jury is very much still out. The performances at home, bar the Oxford game have been absolutely disgraceful, quite frankly. Bizarre team selections, terrible game management and the substitutions have been mind boggling. I was expecting far more from him and the team, regardless of it not being his team mostly. Other clubs usually get some sort of manager bounce, whether it's their players or not. We haven't at all, we've got worse if anything, especially at home. We'd only lost once before MT arrived, we've lost twice as many in a just a few days.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 11, 2024 4:22:23 GMT
Earlier in the season: 33 Cox 28 Gibbons Substituted for Bogarde at 76'minutes 17 Taylor 4 Grant 19 Vale 21 Evans Substituted for Marquis at 76'minutes 15 Woods 8 Ward Substituted for Finley at 45'minutes 7 Sinclair Substituted for Crama at 45'minutes 18 Martin Substituted for Gordon at 85'minutes 10 Collins Today: Ward 5 Wilson 26 Baggott 32 Friend 11 Thomas 22 Conteh 4 Grant 3 Gordon 21 Evans 9 Marquis 10 Aguilera 31 Ward 5 Wilson Substituted for Crama at 86'minutes 32 Friend Substituted for Brown at 31'minutes 22 Conteh Substituted for Vaughan at 71'minutes 4 Grant Substituted for Hoole at 71'minutes 10 Aguilera Substituted for Sinclair at 86'minutes Not quite the same players..1 starter the same. You could argue that the team was stronger before but regardless, the sides we are losing too are established at the bottom of the table now. This is good Si, what it shows is over 20 players (subs as well) our brilliant squad which Topper raves about, can’t get a point off Burton over two games. It kind of sums it all up doesn’t it, could anyone else do any better🤷🏼♂️ Yet we've took 4 points of Portsmouth, outplayed Barnsley, beaten Bolton away etc etc
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 10, 2024 16:24:35 GMT
Great finish Evo!
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 10, 2024 16:24:09 GMT
We were just as poor at home under the previous manager. We'd only lost once at home until Matt Taylor turned up.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 10, 2024 16:22:36 GMT
Absolute f*cking garbage.
We've definitely got our Rovers back.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 9, 2024 11:55:23 GMT
luton and brentford and bounmouth have done well but what you all forget is they have also come from behind you to.we won your league at a canter under cotts.its not about who is bigger than who,the point i was trying to make is we were about the same dap in the 80s but you have stayed put not just on the pitch but off it.yes are rosy owner has played his part and yes built a great ground and the fans came and over the years we have gone from 8000 to over 20000+ but you are the ones still getting the same support as you did in the 80s.you cant even fill the new stand now.now that is stagnant. I’ve seen Rovers play league games on four different grounds. I’m pretty sure no other club’s fans could say that. Brighton.
Goldstone Ground, Priestfield, Withdean and now the Amex.
All since 1997.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 9, 2024 10:11:12 GMT
He's got the best goals per 90 mins ratio, best minutes per goal, the best goal conversion %, the best shot accuracy %, while also having the least shots out of all the top 10 scorers in League 1.
He has been top class, you cannot argue with that.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 8, 2024 16:50:13 GMT
its strange to say we are stagnating i have followed since the 82 season where i always thought there was nothing between us but we have built something now to be proud of on and off the pitch to give us the best chance of maybe just for one season to play prem football inthe last 9 years the gap has been huge. 9 years championship to your years in the bottom leagues plus out the league 20000 to 24000 average to your still the same 7000 to 8000 a ground that would grace the prem to yours that is no better than some non league clubs a owner that to be fair may not get things right on the pitch but puts his money where his mouth is off it ie training ground ashton gate bristol bears womens football academy and maybe if he gets the go ahead new 3000 all seater hotel and shops your owner a stand that looks more suited to low league standard we sell 1 player for more money than your whole squad is worth and your new stand and much more come on chaps take the green eyed monster away and try not to clutch at straws hopefully i dont get banned as i do like to have some good banter with you boys when i do post but some need a reality check Look at the definition of stagnating.
City are doing just that currently.
There really is no need to get so offended.
I would rather look at a club like Luton, who have risen through the leagues and now playing top flight Football without the need to spend 'bucketfulls' of money in a ground with a smaller capacity than The Mem.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 8, 2024 16:02:35 GMT
It can be done without spending bucketfulls of money.
Luton went from Non League to The Championship in 4 years, then only 2 years as a mid table Championship team before reaching the Play Offs 2 years on the trot. Now they're playing really exciting, attacking Football in The Premier League.
Mostly with players from their Non League/League 2 days and signings on free transfers.
Not only that but also in a ground with a smaller capacity than The Mem.
They have not only shown clubs like us how it's done but also clubs like Bristol City who have spunked loads just to stagnate as a middle of the road Championship club.
We shouldn't take any notice of that lot down the road, clubs like Luton are the benchmark we should be looking upto.
Not sure you'd call City stagnating when you look at their facilities? Selling players at a vast profit whilst remaining in the Championship seems a good business model, if it's not what the supporters want. I would.
This is their 9th season back in The Championship, their average league position in that time is 14th.
While also selling all their best players and not reinvesting much of it back into the playing side in recent years.
I would say they are the very definition of stagnating. Not moving anywhere.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 8, 2024 9:46:29 GMT
There is that but the local press had them playing Leeds last weekend and Middlesbrough this, whilst we had Fleetwood and next up Burton Albion. I don't think an FA Cup run for them bucks any trend tbh. It’s clear to me we have to have a huge improvement next season to challenge for the playoffs yet alone the automatic spots and as our neighbours down the road have shown it takes bucketfulls of money to just stay there as a middle of the table side. It can be done without spending bucketfulls of money.
Luton went from Non League to The Championship in 4 years, then only 2 years as a mid table Championship team before reaching the Play Offs 2 years on the trot. Now they're playing really exciting, attacking Football in The Premier League.
Mostly with players from their Non League/League 2 days and signings on free transfers.
Not only that but also in a ground with a smaller capacity than The Mem.
They have not only shown clubs like us how it's done but also clubs like Bristol City who have spunked loads just to stagnate as a middle of the road Championship club.
We shouldn't take any notice of that lot down the road, clubs like Luton are the benchmark we should be looking upto.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 7, 2024 9:17:44 GMT
Absolute sh*te! Terrible team selection, game plan, game management and substitutions. That's what you get. If I was Aguilera I'd be wanting to go back to Forest ASAP. You've got an absolute gem of an attacking talent, being asked to play just in front of the back 4. Wasted. Pathetic. Good job we didn't ask Elliot Anderson to play the Makelele role! If this is the Football we are going to be served up the majority of the time under Matt Taylor then I ain't interested. I'm sure I'm not alone. Here you go, your last sentence. Well it’s not his squad so let’s judge his football when it is, I mean he was left with so much pace wasn’t he up front! You ain’t interested, that’s fine, you were not interested at the start, your hero was sacked! Just had a look at who liked your posts, good old Betty! And before you mention, Dust, you mentioned him. You ain’t getting the wife beater back pal, move on, you sound not interested, Gas Girls or Mangos 👍 There is no excuse for playing an exciting, attacking player who you've been given, who is levels above League 1 standard, give him the Number 10 shirt, and then play him as an Anchorman.
That is a p*ss take.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 7, 2024 9:07:58 GMT
Making stuff up again. If we're sh**, I'll say we're sh**, regardless of who the manager is Likewise if we play well, I was full of praise after the Oxford win. Anyway now you and your alter ego are happy you've 'GoT yOuR rOvErS bAcK', you must be ecstatic that the 'Marquee' signing who you were boasting about is being asked to play in Defensive Midfield? You must of loved that performance last night? It isn't the first time that Matt Taylor has put a team out at home that has stunk the place out. Of course, anybody that mentions that, must be a paid up member of the Barton Fan Club. First of all, let’s clear something up, you were a massive Barton supporter and you were unhappy he was sacked. My post match post on here said MT got it wrong with the side he picked tonight. The manager inherited a terrible situation and squad. We have a 19 year old in goal because his world class loan signing in front of him is brilliant. The defence changes every game because Hunt, Wilson and Friend can’t stay fit or can’t he trusted to play twice in a week. Let’s judge him properly and not glorify in us losing until he’s got his own side next season. Finley and Ward would have made a massive difference last night, you can carry a Ward (injured a lot) if in the main you have a fit squad and replacements. But again look at him, Bogarde and Woods to replace him, now relying on a kid from Forest to do it straight away. We were all disappointed last night, you glorified in it. I’m just glad he never called Wilson an idiot for his defending and I hope he doesn’t send Bagott back like Bobby Thomas I was not a massive Barton supporter at all.
As you well know as you and Batman stalked me for long enough to find out, I didn't want Barton anywhere near this Football Club from the very start.
I had a change of heart simply because he did what he said he was going to do and got us promoted.
I am sure there are many others who did the same.
When he was sacked, I just didn't feel the need to mention him constantly unlike others. That somehow meant I was head of his Fan Club.
I think i'm balanced. If we're sh*t, i'll say it, and if we play well i'll say it.
I have no agenda, regardless who the manager is.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 7, 2024 7:27:48 GMT
Making stuff up again. If we're sh**, I'll say we're sh**, regardless of who the manager is Likewise if we play well, I was full of praise after the Oxford win. Anyway now you and your alter ego are happy you've 'GoT yOuR rOvErS bAcK', you must be ecstatic that the 'Marquee' signing who you were boasting about is being asked to play in Defensive Midfield? You must of loved that performance last night? It isn't the first time that Matt Taylor has put a team out at home that has stunk the place out. Of course, anybody that mentions that, must be a paid up member of the Barton Fan Club. Don’t bring me into this, pal. I dont communicate with you on this platform so keep my name out your mouth 👍🏻 Funny that.
As you just did.
No doubt, you and Batman will run of crying again soon.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 7, 2024 6:02:08 GMT
Was this post meant for me ? I haven’t really been that critical of Taylor and I don’t know who you mean by secretly enjoying when we lose. Sorry it was aimed at Gastafari which you replied to him on a post, sorry for the confusion mate! The poster was Barton Fsn Club committee member Making stuff up again. If we're sh**, I'll say we're sh**, regardless of who the manager is Likewise if we play well, I was full of praise after the Oxford win. Anyway now you and your alter ego are happy you've 'GoT yOuR rOvErS bAcK', you must be ecstatic that the 'Marquee' signing who you were boasting about is being asked to play in Defensive Midfield? You must of loved that performance last night? It isn't the first time that Matt Taylor has put a team out at home that has stunk the place out. Of course, anybody that mentions that, must be a paid up member of the Barton Fan Club.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 6, 2024 23:23:08 GMT
Absolute sh*te! Terrible team selection, game plan, game management and substitutions. That's what you get. If I was Aguilera I'd be wanting to go back to Forest ASAP. You've got an absolute gem of an attacking talent, being asked to play just in front of the back 4. Wasted. Pathetic. Good job we didn't ask Elliot Anderson to play the Makelele role! If this is the Football we are going to be served up the majority of the time under Matt Taylor then I ain't interested. I'm sure I'm not alone. To be fair this was more like Barton ball tonight than they way weve been playing under Taylor and we’ve won our last two not playing that way but Bu playing a more typical league 1 team style of football mixing it up and with a quick tempo. Which begs the question why did Taylor go with the tactics and players he started in the game tonight in such conditions. It was clear on the first few minutes that our game plan was to give the ball to Aguilara as a quarter back so he could dictate play , and I think most and myself included thought well this ain’t gonna work. Bizarre. It's just totally bizarre. You've been given an absolute gem right at the last minute, who Forest fans are absolutely raving about, whose already played in the PL this season, with trickery, flair, guile and technique which is far above standard League 1 level, you then give him the Number 10 shirt after Aaron Collins, who should be a brilliant attacking acquisition. For some unbeknown reason Matt Taylor decides to put him in a deep Midfield role just in front of the back 4. I honestly don't know what Matt Taylor was thinking? He mentioned he played him in a slightly deeper role away at Exeter, so that he could see the game in front of him, I could understand his thinking a little there to a certain extent, but tonight it was just absolutely bemusing. Even to start, but to not even attempt to change it and look to move him in a more advanced role throughout the game is pretty mind blowing. As I mentioned its a good job we didn't play Elliot Anderson in a Defensive Midfield position isn't it? It's absolutely criminal to be helped out by being given players like this who are technically far superior to League 1, yet mess them about by playing them in roles that are alien to them. It's taking the p*ss as far as I'm concerned. Yeah we can argue about Bartons and Jennings role in certain aspects of this team, but that's got absolutely nothing to do with Matt Taylors decision to put a star attacking player we've been given in a Defensive Midfield position.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 6, 2024 21:50:04 GMT
Absolute sh*te!
Terrible team selection, game plan, game management and substitutions.
That's what you get.
If I was Aguilera I'd be wanting to go back to Forest ASAP.
You've got an absolute gem of an attacking talent, being asked to play just in front of the back 4. Wasted. Pathetic.
Good job we didn't ask Elliot Anderson to play the Makelele role!
If this is the Football we are going to be served up the majority of the time under Matt Taylor then I ain't interested. I'm sure I'm not alone.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 6, 2024 21:03:04 GMT
Absolutely pathetic.
I'm sorry the jury is out on Matt Taylor as far as I'm concerned.
Playing Aguilera as a deep lying Midfielder in front of the back 4. Why?
Absolute waste of a skilful, attacking player.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 6, 2024 20:35:56 GMT
'We'Ve GoT oUr RoVeRs BaCk'?
Have we really?
That was absolute dross.
Our 'Marquee' signing given the Number 10 shirt, yet playing just in front of the back 4. What is the point?
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 1, 2024 20:46:45 GMT
The big man Elkan,Comes from Thailand Get past him if you f*cking can He's 6'6, and lightning quick The big man Elkan To the tune of Wig Wam Bam But he's from Indonesia? No he's not. He's from Thailand. Well born there anyway He just plays for Indonesia
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