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Post by gasincider on Sept 7, 2014 22:10:03 GMT
No attacking of players should be condoned, nor should accusations of assault when there is no evidence to justify it. I was about 10 yards away and the fan was gesticulating angrily coz their player had conned the ref and was smirking at our fans behind the goal.
The thought of knocking the smirk off his chops crossed my mind, but I thought better of it.
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Post by bs20gas on Sept 7, 2014 22:22:51 GMT
ive had c.s.i. on the case and forensic tests done on the available video analysis prove conclusively that the guys arms are not in fact long enough to reach or make any contact with the players head and its been confirmed he was holding an e cigerette and his fist was unclenched so it appears that it was nothing more than aggressive pointing/poking motions that occured.... case closed, sing up gas
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Post by 1883 on Sept 7, 2014 23:27:30 GMT
Sadly I saw his fists contact the back of his head / neck, but if nothing can be proved, at least we wont get a points deduction!?
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Post by ganymede on Sept 8, 2014 14:12:06 GMT
ive had c.s.i. on the case and forensic tests done on the available video analysis prove conclusively that the guys arms are not in fact long enough to reach or make any contact with the players head and its been confirmed he was holding an e cigerette and his fist was unclenched so it appears that it was nothing more than aggressive pointing/poking motions that occured.... case closed, sing up gas An e-cigarette ... I was wondering "why would he be carrying a pen?" ... make sense now! Cheers. Oh for what it is worth, it might be time the club considered taking its own stewards to some grounds; the cost of this would be smaller than fines/points deductions and would send out a message that these types of things are being taken seriously [Wycombe, Mansfield, trouble on Glos Road after Mansfield and before Grimsby, players coach incident at Altrincham, two events at Braintree ... they might all start to add up .... ]
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Post by meader on Sept 8, 2014 17:39:40 GMT
Looking at the pictures of that incident on Saturday, I think there quite a lot of gasheads who will regonise the individual who done tne punching. For those who do know him, my advice is for them to get in touch with him and persuade him to keep away from the Mem and away games for his own good. Hopefully he would had relised by now what he has done and will impose his own ban. You know who u r!
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 10, 2014 15:55:34 GMT
Avon and Somerset Constabulary 2 hours ago We are appealing for the public’s help to identify a man we would like to speak to in connection with an incident at a football game. The incident happened during Bristol Rovers away match at Braintree FC on Saturday September 6. A man began acting in an aggressive manner towards the Essex players from behind the goals and then threw a punch at one of the Braintree players. We have issued an image of a man who we think has useful information to help our enquiries into the public order incident. If you are the man pictured, or you know him, please contact the Football Intelligence Unit at Bridewell police station on the force number 101. Alternatively you can contact Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555111 or report it online bit.ly/1pwX4Zm . Photo: We are appealing for the public’s help to identify a man we would like to speak to in connection with an incident at a football game. The incident happened during Bristol Rovers away match at Braintree FC on Saturday September 6. A man began acting in an aggressive manner towards the Essex players from behind the goals and then threw a punch at one of the Braintree players. We have issued an image of a man who we think has useful information to help our enquiries into the public order incident. If you are the man pictured, or you know him, please contact the Football Intelligence Unit at Bridewell police station on the force number 101. Alternatively you can contact Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555111 or report it online bit.ly/1pwX4Zm .
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Post by aghast on Sept 10, 2014 20:45:51 GMT
Looking at the pictures of that incident on Saturday, I think there quite a lot of gasheads who will regonise the individual who done tne punching. For those who do know him, my advice is for them to get in touch with him and persuade him to keep away from the Mem and away games for his own good. Hopefully he would had relised by now what he has done and will impose his own ban. You know who u r! That little chat with him is never going to have a happy ending.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 21:23:55 GMT
How close do you need to be before throwing a punch becomes an incident? The video shows some near misses. Isn't that the same as throwing an air punch from the other side of the planet?
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Post by empirebaypete on Sept 10, 2014 21:35:57 GMT
How close do you need to be before throwing a punch becomes an incident? The video shows some near misses. Isn't that the same as throwing an air punch from the other side of the planet? Whether or not the punch landed is immaterial. There was intent. That was enough of an incident for Mr Plod to be interested. It's in The Rovers interests too, to get rid of the individual. I've seen a couple of bad quality videos of it and it seems obvious the player was trying to wind up the fans. It worked.
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Post by inee on Sept 10, 2014 21:39:02 GMT
If nothing landed no crime was committed, i think it's a watertake that the pigs want fans to name the guy, thing is the biggest criminal organisation in the uk, get paid good money to do their job ,so let them get off their arses and do their own dirty work after all we all pay them
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 21:43:10 GMT
How close do you need to be before throwing a punch becomes an incident? The video shows some near misses. Isn't that the same as throwing an air punch from the other side of the planet? Whether or not the punch landed is immaterial. There was intent. That was enough of an incident for Mr Plod to be interested. It's in The Rovers interests too, to get rid of the individual. I've seen a couple of bad quality videos of it and it seems obvious the player was trying to wind up the fans. It worked. I think it is important if a punch landed actually. Intent is shown all of the time by footy fans. If the player did indeed successfully cause an incident in your opinion, then he is guilty too eh?
So, how far away do you need to be from landing the punch? an inch, a foot, a metre, a mile, over the www? the intent is the same is it not? It was only a genuine question. Since if I called someone a lady garden to their face in the street I could be slapped on the wrist, but this happens a lot at a match. The player didn't seem to get any contact from the 'fan' so why the OB interest?
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Sept 10, 2014 21:58:52 GMT
I wasn't there so can't really judge, however the video looks a lot of hustle and bustle over nothing. I will say though that over the years I have noticed a change in our fans. I know we have always had our hoodlums but we seem to be getting worse, I think it really hit home how bad we were getting when the dude chinned the police horse. Maybe the horse deserved It, I dunno, some would say naaahhyyy he didn't. Maybe I never noticed whe growing up.
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Post by Somersetgas on Sept 10, 2014 22:00:58 GMT
If nothing landed no crime was committed, i think it's a watertake that the pigs want fans to name the guy, thing is the biggest criminal organisation in the uk, get paid good money to do their job ,so let them get off their arses and do their own dirty work after all we all pay them The same force who's Chief Constable is currently suspended under a criminal investigation, innocent until proven Guilty!
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Post by empirebaypete on Sept 10, 2014 22:01:51 GMT
If nothing landed no crime was committed, i think it's a watertake that the pigs want fans to name the guy, thing is the biggest criminal organisation in the uk, get paid good money to do their job ,so let them get off their arses and do their own dirty work after all we all pay them I fully understand what you're saying, and I'm no expert. I would say he's broken the ground rules at least. According to reports he was being a Dickhead (shouting and swearing) from the time he arrived at the ground. We really don't need idiots like him at the ground. If the police are looking for him they obviously think they can nail something on him. There was no way after that incident the stewards would have said " come on old chap, calm down and just go back to where you were". He would have been out of the ground. In my younger days I was thrown out at Orient for jumping up and down celebrating a goal. The cops couldn't / wouldn't tell us what we'd done wrong. But were told go home or spend the night in the cells. We went home.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 22:06:09 GMT
I wasn't there so can't really judge, however the video looks a lot of hustle and bustle over nothing. I will say though that over the years I have noticed a change in our fans. I know we have always had our hoodlums but we seem to be getting worse, I think it really hit home how bad we were getting when the dude chinned the police horse. Maybe the horse deserved It, I dunno, some would say naaahhyyy he didn't. Maybe I never noticed whe growing up. I though a Mansfield lad punched the horse? Liked the jokey bit though!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 23:38:16 GMT
i think the best chance we have to avoid severe punishment is to identify "barry" and ban him for some time,that would show the authorities the club wont stand for such actions and might help
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Sept 11, 2014 5:59:31 GMT
I wasn't there so can't really judge, however the video looks a lot of hustle and bustle over nothing. I will say though that over the years I have noticed a change in our fans. I know we have always had our hoodlums but we seem to be getting worse, I think it really hit home how bad we were getting when the dude chinned the police horse. Maybe the horse deserved It, I dunno, some would say naaahhyyy he didn't. Maybe I never noticed whe growing up. I though a Mansfield lad punched the horse? Liked the jokey bit though!
Just don't tell the Teds. It's their favourite comment after every single Rovers story on the BEP website. They will have to find some other crap to carry on stalking us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 8:14:37 GMT
Surprised there hasn't been a flurry of activity to get todays BEP page put on here. Seriously though, how much more bad publicity do we need? Some of the judges comments are a little dramatic while I cannot see how it keeps making the press whilst other bigger invasions seem to get brushed under?
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Sept 11, 2014 8:15:43 GMT
A punch doesn't have to be landed before an offence is commited. It won't be assault but it certainly looks like it could be affray.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 8:19:46 GMT
Well who knows what the rules are? 2 lads in todays press release are guilty of using threatening words to police who were battering their mates. I have seen the police in action with batons, and they don't always batter people who deserve it.
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