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Post by pucklegas on Aug 16, 2017 18:50:28 GMT
Can I ask, "Did they all live happily ever after?"
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Post by garystash on Aug 16, 2017 19:21:25 GMT
Back to the original post...
Whilst I think the AQ's do not have, or will not, invest the required amount of money, I do feel Wael's intentions are good.
When it comes to football club ownership, I would rather the AQs than a lot of others I see around us.
It may be a bitter pill to swallow, knowing we will forever be in our neighbours shadow - and knowing the best we can hope for is the odd season in the championship.
However, I enjoy going to the mem on a Saturday with my kids. The most important thing for me is we have a club to go and support, to share those experiences together - and I don't think if we were in the premier league looking down on the red half it would be any better than it is today.
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Post by aghast on Aug 16, 2017 19:27:51 GMT
LJG's had a shocker there with his assumptions as not only were the ALQ's from a different country, SH also said that it was MSP Capital who pointed them in our direction when the deal to buy Gillingham fell though, perhaps it was something he heard on the terraces and he never checked his facts. Why is something being verifiably true suddenly so important to you now? You've never bothered with reality on this subject before. Factman makes two howlers in his posts about facts, and instead of acknowledging it, attacks the poster who pointed it out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 19:28:04 GMT
Back to the original post... Whilst I think the AQ's do not have, or will not, invest the required amount of money, I do feel Wael's intentions are good. When it comes to football club ownership, I would rather the AQs than a lot of others I see around us. It may be a bitter pill to swallow, knowing we will forever be in our neighbours shadow - and knowing the best we can hope for is the odd season in the championship. However, I enjoy going to the mem on a Saturday with my kids. The most important thing for me is we have a club to go and support, to share those experiences together - and I don't think if we were in the premier league looking down on the red half it would be any better than it is today.I wonder if Swansea can answer that seeing as though they are currently experiencing it, and they dont even own their ground. Of course it would be better than it is today lol
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Post by countygroundhotel on Aug 16, 2017 19:34:41 GMT
Little idea of what you are on about, really you're just about shouting people down. As to the training ground just am example of Wael and Hamer over promising and under delivering. But so many on here believe everything Wael ams Hamer say without question. Sad world really Which is relevant to this fairy story how? People saying one thing and not delivering it is irrelevant? Guess when you hold that view it's time to ignore you.
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Post by gasincider on Aug 16, 2017 19:35:49 GMT
Totally with respect Justice my learned friend. I wouldn't take it all too seriously if i was you. Someone has posted something he was told, nothing more, nothing less. Social media is full of this sort of stuff. Many people post 'rumours' which is all they can really be justified as without any concrete evidence. In fairness the InCider chap has been right about a few things and is only airing something he's heard. Whether it proves to be true is something we may/may not find out in the future. Until then i would ignore it if i was you because the fact is we may never know if it's true or not. Enjoy your evening. Back by popular demand. Couldn't be bothered before as Ive said before, too many children on here being hilariously funny. It took all this time for someone to come up with the definitive answer, as repeated above. I repeated what was heard and the people discussing it are well known to most gasheads. I was surprised to hear there were two potential prospects as I had heard only a snippet of one. It was the conversation in the West Stand that confirmed the rumour I had heard. No more, no less. That was what I posted, and suddenly I am being asked to name names, etc etc. All I know is as above. I like many others, don't believe it is viable to remain at the Mem. I hope, if that's our only choice, that I am wrong. What do I think will happen? Nothing. I think that the UWE failure will be allowed to fade, then sometime later we will be told the Mem will not be redeveloped. In our current layout, nothing can be built at the tent end, as the retaining wall there is not strong enough. So we would need to start buying properties at that end to reinforce it. Cost? No idea. We already know that to make a decent size stadium (20,000 plus) the ground would need to be turned round, so presumably it would be only about 15000 capacity. Doubtful that we could sustain championship football with that capacity. It's well known that it is cheaper to build a stadium from a clear site than one already developed. Severciders cousin who has helped develop several stadiums over the years could tell you. Though he is not a gashead, and not on this site. More importantly, to complete a rebuild quickly, we would need to leave for two years. ?The council will not be happy to let the locals live next to a building site for 4 or 5 years. If the Mem is rebuilt, how do we pay off the people putting up the front money? No, I don't know either. By the way Someone said there were reciprocal Heads of Terms, the vice chancellor confirmed on the radio that he was expecting to receive one, but hadn't, and we say we sent one. The question is, who is telling porkies? I hope it's the UWE, but again I don't know.
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Post by garystash on Aug 16, 2017 19:37:47 GMT
Back to the original post... Whilst I think the AQ's do not have, or will not, invest the required amount of money, I do feel Wael's intentions are good. When it comes to football club ownership, I would rather the AQs than a lot of others I see around us. It may be a bitter pill to swallow, knowing we will forever be in our neighbours shadow - and knowing the best we can hope for is the odd season in the championship. However, I enjoy going to the mem on a Saturday with my kids. The most important thing for me is we have a club to go and support, to share those experiences together - and I don't think if we were in the premier league looking down on the red half it would be any better than it is today.I wonder if Swansea can answer that seeing as though they are currently experiencing it, and they dont even own their ground. Of course it would be better than it is today lol But would it be so good you'd be prepared to risk the existence of our club trying to attain it?
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Post by countygroundhotel on Aug 16, 2017 19:39:17 GMT
Back to the original post... Whilst I think the AQ's do not have, or will not, invest the required amount of money, I do feel Wael's intentions are good. When it comes to football club ownership, I would rather the AQs than a lot of others I see around us. It may be a bitter pill to swallow, knowing we will forever be in our neighbours shadow - and knowing the best we can hope for is the odd season in the championship. However, I enjoy going to the mem on a Saturday with my kids. The most important thing for me is we have a club to go and support, to share those experiences together - and I don't think if we were in the premier league looking down on the red half it would be any better than it is today. Interesting point. I've seen lots of players for Rovers who gave there all and who I'd never doubt the intentions of, but many of them just weren't up to the job. Should they have continued to be picked because their intentions were good? PS that isn't a personal dig at you just an observation that some people can't deliver their intentions
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 19:43:33 GMT
As you point out, this idea of building a new stadium on the Mem site is just pie in the sky thinking. It'll never happen. If the UWE was not viable commercially, then a rebuilt Mem would never be viable either.....and if we stay at the Mem, this club will die.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 19:44:53 GMT
Back to the original post... Whilst I think the AQ's do not have, or will not, invest the required amount of money, I do feel Wael's intentions are good. When it comes to football club ownership, I would rather the AQs than a lot of others I see around us. It may be a bitter pill to swallow, knowing we will forever be in our neighbours shadow - and knowing the best we can hope for is the odd season in the championship. However, I enjoy going to the mem on a Saturday with my kids. The most important thing for me is we have a club to go and support, to share those experiences together - and I don't think if we were in the premier league looking down on the red half it would be any better than it is today. Interesting point. I've seen lots of players for Rovers who gave there all and who I'd never doubt the intentions of, but many of them just weren't up to the job. Should they have continued to be picked because their intentions were good? PS that isn't a personal dig at you just an observation that some people can't deliver their intentions I can see what you mean, and I agree with you. I think Wael's intentions are good, but I get the feeling that he doesn't have the financial support he needs.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 16, 2017 20:02:01 GMT
Which makes you wonder where he does from here, does he just plod on whilst the club continues to loose a £1 or £2m per season (before LJG goes off on one I think that loss p.a. is accepted by everyone) or look to sell up?
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 16, 2017 20:07:07 GMT
LJG's had a shocker there with his assumptions as not only were the ALQ's from a different country, SH also said that it was MSP Capital who pointed them in our direction when the deal to buy Gillingham fell though, perhaps it was something he heard on the terraces and he never checked his facts. Why is something being verifiably true suddenly so important to you now? You've never bothered with reality on this subject before. Seems I was proven right about Wael having to get his families approval to invest in the club/build the UWE plus there's still no sign of Will Dubey at the club, what snippets of info have you ever come up?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 16, 2017 20:15:10 GMT
LJG is getting his ass handed to him here. Very enjoyable thread.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 16, 2017 20:18:33 GMT
Just because the Mem is sh**e, unsustainable and cannot be developed, that still doesn't mean the deal with UWE was the better option.
The way some of you are going on you'd think it was the end of the world.
If WAQ had completely sold us down the river with a crap deal with UWE the same old faces would be on here saying 'we should never have left the Mem. At least that was ours'
WE KNOW NOTHING!!!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 16, 2017 20:21:30 GMT
LJG is getting his ass handed to him here. Very enjoyable thread. I'm sure you meant to say people are picking apart his posts and your comment was of course not aimed at him personally.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 16, 2017 20:24:03 GMT
LJG is getting his ass handed to him here. Very enjoyable thread. I'm sure you meant to say people are picking apart his posts and your comment was of course not aimed at him personally. That's exactly what I meant. You know me too well 😉
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Post by RD on Aug 16, 2017 20:28:31 GMT
Interesting point. I've seen lots of players for Rovers who gave there all and who I'd never doubt the intentions of, but many of them just weren't up to the job. Should they have continued to be picked because their intentions were good? PS that isn't a personal dig at you just an observation that some people can't deliver their intentions I can see what you mean, and I agree with you. I think Wael's intentions are good, but I get the feeling that he doesn't have the financial support he needs. And tbf, Nick Higgs only ever had the club's best interests at heart - he was a Gashead afterall. Didn't count for much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 20:35:21 GMT
I wonder if Swansea can answer that seeing as though they are currently experiencing it, and they dont even own their ground. Of course it would be better than it is today lol But would it be so good you'd be prepared to risk the existence of our club trying to attain it? As opposed to losing money hand over fist where we currently are, how long can we do that? We could go out of existence NOT trying to attain it.
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Post by Slide away on Aug 16, 2017 20:45:32 GMT
If a party that was interested in buying the club now and/or in he past wanted an opportunity again then now would be the time to stir things up. With a much wanted stadium being ended by the owners and results/performances poor on the field. It is very easy to say someone else wants to come in and make things better again ,this will potentially stir up some fans to be vocal and the old "sack the board" and "f### of #### get out of the club" kind of mob mentality rubbish. Its exactly the time I would expect these "over heard conversation " leaks to occur. I say put up or shut up ,to those takeover parties. Do not undermine the club and all that's been achieved over the last few years by destroying the unity and positive atmosphere that's here. ..."and results/performances poor on the field"... Were we not top of the entire football league points wise over the last 2/3 years? 2 poor performances, Jesus Christ, this place really is pathetic
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 21:03:44 GMT
If a party that was interested in buying the club now and/or in he past wanted an opportunity again then now would be the time to stir things up. With a much wanted stadium being ended by the owners and results/performances poor on the field. It is very easy to say someone else wants to come in and make things better again ,this will potentially stir up some fans to be vocal and the old "sack the board" and "f### of #### get out of the club" kind of mob mentality rubbish. Its exactly the time I would expect these "over heard conversation " leaks to occur. I say put up or shut up ,to those takeover parties. Do not undermine the club and all that's been achieved over the last few years by destroying the unity and positive atmosphere that's here. ..."and results/performances poor on the field"... Were we not top of the entire football league points wise over the last 2/3 years? 2 poor performances, Jesus Christ, this place really is pathetic I think judging this site on the comments made by one person is quite pathetic as well.
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