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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 9:43:43 GMT
If we stopped fans having a go at other fans about stuff we wouldn't have any threads. Also, a lot of posters seem to feel strongly that as few threads as possible are deleted (as a matter of principle - although to be fair there's no real evidence of that, I might do a poll). I was tempted to move the thread very early on to General Chat, but couldn't really justify it as it was definitely focused on Rovers. Istm the people involved were enjoying themselves, insulting each other, talking sh**, and bringing in wider politics in a spurious sort of vaguely uninformed and ridiculous manner, which seems to be what the internet is for, probably. we went through the same thing last year and the problem with this thread is that it gets very personal and turns us against each other. it's crazy that some people have a go at others for supporting the same team. some of the comments made on this thread are worse than if a sh** head came on here and had a go at us. we don't need division. we had a great result last night and should be delighted. Also, the internet was designed for easy access to lesbian porn. People are passionate about the long term interests of the club and are rightly campaigning/highlighting the consequences of U23 teams being introduced in the league structure. I find it hard to sit back and accept those that are knowingly supporting a competition which threatens not only our club's long term prospects but the lower league structure in this country.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 30, 2017 9:47:03 GMT
we went through the same thing last year and the problem with this thread is that it gets very personal and turns us against each other. it's crazy that some people have a go at others for supporting the same team. some of the comments made on this thread are worse than if a sh** head came on here and had a go at us. we don't need division. we had a great result last night and should be delighted. Also, the internet was designed for easy access to lesbian porn. People are passionate about the long term interests of the club and are rightly campaigning/highlighting the consequences of U23 teams being introduced in the league structure. I find it hard to sit back and accept those that are knowingly supporting a competition which threatens not only our club's long term prospects but the lower league structure in this country. Your opinions are your opinions ~ don't force them on others or insult them for attending games to support our team.
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Post by CheshireGas on Aug 30, 2017 9:48:34 GMT
Chewy 0 attendances would make no difference. There have been record low attendances for many clubs for games. If that doesn't speak volumes nothing will. The people in charge only care about sucking up to the Premier sides and any money they can get out of it. As for DC not taking it seriously we still played to win and gave valuable experience to some young talented players. If we didn't give a sh** why not put out even less experienced players and make a statement of intent by losing? You get fined for playing understrength sides in a tournament that includes Reading Under-23's.
The only reason this farce is still going on is because of the attendance in last years final and monetary payments from the Premier League. We can not effect those payments but by boycotting we can effect the attendances. Oxford and Coventry supporters let down the whole of football last year by attending and I'm hopeful this years final will be Middleborough U23's vs Reading U23's.
So you want your club to lose a competitive football match and get knocked out of the competition..... interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 10:03:53 GMT
People are passionate about the long term interests of the club and are rightly campaigning/highlighting the consequences of U23 teams being introduced in the league structure. I find it hard to sit back and accept those that are knowingly supporting a competition which threatens not only our club's long term prospects but the lower league structure in this country. Your opinions are your opinions ~ don't force them on others or insult them for attending games to support our team. Forums are generally designed as a platform to state opinions FYI. It's ultimately up to people what they choose to do but I make absolutely no apologies for campaigning on this issue and highlighting the likely consequences and repercussions of the acceptance of U23 teams in lower league competition. As a lifetime supporter and passionate fan of the unique and special football league structure in this country, I'm not prepared to sit back and passively accept changes which threaten our long term prospects. If others choose to do so, that's their prerogative, but they can have no complaints when Swansea U23's on a Saturday at 3pm become the norm.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 30, 2017 10:14:10 GMT
Your opinions are your opinions ~ don't force them on others or insult them for attending games to support our team. Forums are generally designed as a platform to state opinions FYI. It's ultimately up to people what they choose to do but I make absolutely no apologies for campaigning on this issue and highlighting the likely consequences and repercussions of the acceptance of U23 teams in lower league competition. As a lifetime supporter and passionate fan of the unique and special football league structure in this country, I'm not prepared to sit back and passively accept changes which threaten our long term prospects. If others choose to do so, that's their prerogative, but they can have no complaints when Swansea U23's on a Saturday at 3pm become the norm. I'm not making myself clear. Opinions are fine but nobody can tell me or other fans what to do or have a go for going to a match. And this argument was the same last year. you've had your say and stated your opinions so why not give it a rest now ?
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 30, 2017 10:16:26 GMT
You get fined for playing understrength sides in a tournament that includes Reading Under-23's.
The only reason this farce is still going on is because of the attendance in last years final and monetary payments from the Premier League. We can not effect those payments but by boycotting we can effect the attendances. Oxford and Coventry supporters let down the whole of football last year by attending and I'm hopeful this years final will be Middleborough U23's vs Reading U23's.
So you want your club to lose a competitive football match and get knocked out of the competition..... interesting. I don't think anyone wants the club to lose a competitive football match. What those not attending (I am one of those) want is for the club (all clubs)not to be involved in a competition that isn't seen as something that could have a future detrimental impact on lower league structures with the imposition of these u23 teams as the thin edge of the wedge. The EFL would sell their granny if they could. You and others may not agree with that point of view, fair enough. But I think there are some warning bells here and unless and until fans unite against it the EFL will divide and conquer. It needs coordinated fans action to hit this, not just odd shots over the bows. And yes, I also think that the attendance at Wembley gave a victory to the EFL. It's there that is the only place where fans can hurt them by not turning up. However, I accept, if that is what the majority of fans want they have shown with their feet their acceptance of this format. I just hope they are so accepting of other changes that may follow like no promotion/relegation. Feeder clubs etc. I really wouldn't put it past them. They will suck up to the PL money at the drop of a hat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 10:26:32 GMT
Forums are generally designed as a platform to state opinions FYI. It's ultimately up to people what they choose to do but I make absolutely no apologies for campaigning on this issue and highlighting the likely consequences and repercussions of the acceptance of U23 teams in lower league competition. As a lifetime supporter and passionate fan of the unique and special football league structure in this country, I'm not prepared to sit back and passively accept changes which threaten our long term prospects. If others choose to do so, that's their prerogative, but they can have no complaints when Swansea U23's on a Saturday at 3pm become the norm. I'm not making myself clear. Opinions are fine but nobody can tell me or other fans what to do or have a go for going to a match. And this argument was the same last year. you've had your say and stated your opinions so why not give it a rest now ? You're making yourself very clear actually, as hopefully am I. Why not give it a rest? Because myself and others aren't prepared to keep quiet given what's at stake. I hold the strong opinion that attending games in this competition (especially against U23 teams) will be detrimental to the long term prospects of the club and the lower league structure in general. I'll happily reiterate that at every opportunity to encourage anyone sitting on the fence to protect the interests of Bristol Rovers. I'm not telling anyone what to do, but highlighting the repercussions of what they do. There's a difference.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 30, 2017 10:31:52 GMT
I'm not making myself clear. Opinions are fine but nobody can tell me or other fans what to do or have a go for going to a match. And this argument was the same last year. you've had your say and stated your opinions so why not give it a rest now ? You're making yourself very clear actually, as hopefully am I. Why not give it a rest? Because myself and others aren't prepared to keep quiet given what's at stake. I hold the strong opinion that attending games in this competition (especially against U23 teams) will be detrimental to the long term prospects of the club and the lower league structure in general. I'll happily reiterate that at every opportunity to encourage anyone sitting on the fence to protect the interests of Bristol Rovers. I'm not telling anyone what to do, but highlighting the repercussions of what they do. There's a difference. we agree to disagree ~ I feel sad for those fans who travelled up, spent their hard earned cash and supported our team in a great victory only to be called scabs and have the shine taken off of their evening. that is not right in anyone's eyes
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Post by scoobydoogas on Aug 30, 2017 11:51:08 GMT
Yeah right, I didn't come down with the last shower and can see right through you. Your tweet says it all. Posting this thread was one big joke to you, akin to letting a stink bomb off outside the headmasters office then running away smirking. You're not worth anyone's time of day. The folk that are attend are scabs, the fact they are rustled by being called scabs is fantastic, they should feel nothing but shame and I'm still here fronting up, no running away. Why do you feel justified in taking pleasure from people getting upset by you calling them a scab? You are a pathetic individual in the Blackthorn, at away games with your constant moaning, and on here. When I have seen you at games, you don't appear to be stupid but you do seem very immature for a person of your age. I am sure that you can make your point on this forum, as others have, without resorting to such name calling. The mods say attack the post not the poster but it is quite difficult to exercise restraint where you are concerned. Not all of the 66 that went to yesterday's game will be posters on here but haven't you directly, or indirectly, attacked those that do post by calling them scabs.
As for fronting up and not running away, you are behind a keyboard for f**k's sake. How about you invite them into the left side of the Blackthorn and call them scabs to their face.
I don't agree with the format, and I didn't go last night, but I also don't see the point of calling someone a scab. The arguments against attending are valid and have merit. It's being called a scab that gets people's back up and you set the tone with the first post.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 11:57:56 GMT
The folk that are attend are scabs, the fact they are rustled by being called scabs is fantastic, they should feel nothing but shame and I'm still here fronting up, no running away. Why do you feel justified in taking pleasure from people getting upset by you calling them a scab? You are a pathetic individual in the Blackthorn, at away games with your constant moaning, and on here. When I have seen you at games, you don't appear to be stupid but you do seem very immature for a person of your age. I am sure that you can make your point on this forum, as others have, without resorting to such name calling. The mods say attack the post not the poster but it is quite difficult to exercise restraint where you are concerned. Not all of the 66 that went to yesterday's game will be posters on here but haven't you directly, or indirectly, attacked those that do post by calling them scabs.
As for fronting up and not running away, you are behind a keyboard for f**k's sake. How about you invite them into the left side of the Blackthorn and call them scabs to their face.
I don't agree with the format, and I didn't go last night, but I also don't see the point of calling someone a scab. The arguments against attending are valid and have merit. It's being called a scab that gets people's back up and you set the tone with the first post.
Well said scoobs.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 30, 2017 11:58:42 GMT
But that's not what you said was it? thats a perfectly good argument but you came across as a ...... damage done. Folk that attend are scabs though, they're putting their own personal interests over those of the larger community. Short term gain for long term pain. I've always called out people having a detrimental effect on the club, lower league football and football on the whole. If people don't like being called scabs don't cross a picket line thousands have joined. and you sir are acting like a bigoted person who cannot comprehend the term "informed choice"
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Post by Marshy on Aug 30, 2017 12:00:02 GMT
Why do you feel justified in taking pleasure from people getting upset by you calling them a scab? You are a pathetic individual in the Blackthorn, at away games with your constant moaning, and on here. When I have seen you at games, you don't appear to be stupid but you do seem very immature for a person of your age. I am sure that you can make your point on this forum, as others have, without resorting to such name calling. The mods say attack the post not the poster but it is quite difficult to exercise restraint where you are concerned. Not all of the 66 that went to yesterday's game will be posters on here but haven't you directly, or indirectly, attacked those that do post by calling them scabs.
As for fronting up and not running away, you are behind a keyboard for f**k's sake. How about you invite them into the left side of the Blackthorn and call them scabs to their face.
I don't agree with the format, and I didn't go last night, but I also don't see the point of calling someone a scab. The arguments against attending are valid and have merit. It's being called a scab that gets people's back up and you set the tone with the first post.
Well said scoobs. He's like a dog with a bone.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 30, 2017 12:03:12 GMT
He's like a dog with a bone. Na dogs are intelligent
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2017 12:20:19 GMT
The folk that are attend are scabs, the fact they are rustled by being called scabs is fantastic, they should feel nothing but shame and I'm still here fronting up, no running away. Why do you feel justified in taking pleasure from people getting upset by you calling them a scab? You are a pathetic individual in the Blackthorn, at away games with your constant moaning, and on here. When I have seen you at games, you don't appear to be stupid but you do seem very immature for a person of your age. I am sure that you can make your point on this forum, as others have, without resorting to such name calling. The mods say attack the post not the poster but it is quite difficult to exercise restraint where you are concerned. Not all of the 66 that went to yesterday's game will be posters on here but haven't you directly, or indirectly, attacked those that do post by calling them scabs.
As for fronting up and not running away, you are behind a keyboard for f**k's sake. How about you invite them into the left side of the Blackthorn and call them scabs to their face.
I don't agree with the format, and I didn't go last night, but I also don't see the point of calling someone a scab. The arguments against attending are valid and have merit. It's being called a scab that gets people's back up and you set the tone with the first post.
I take pleasure in calling out people for either willfully taking actions to threaten the future of Bristol Rovers and lower league football. As for making a point without resorting to name calling this very immature pathetic individual called a group of people scabs, it's not personal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 12:25:26 GMT
Am I missing something, are the 11 players who scored 5 goals last night subhuman, and do they also deserve to burn in hell for threatening the future of our club and lower league football with their antics? Clarification please
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Aug 30, 2017 12:26:08 GMT
Scabs lol who do you think you are Arthur Scargill? You've said your piece and your motives for doing so are clear for all to see. A little on the hysterical side for me but horses for courses.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Aug 30, 2017 12:36:51 GMT
On a more positive note,It did illustrate that we have more depth in the squad than I thought.Good to see Parts really emerging as a quality signing at last and Dom Telford too must be pressing for a start. Ryan Broom much improved and the Arsenal loanee quality. If we can persuade Nicholls to start scoring and keep Billy Bob then could be exciting times ahead although think the Mem would actually need sorting (as opposed to talking about it),if we went up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 12:43:05 GMT
Why do you feel justified in taking pleasure from people getting upset by you calling them a scab? You are a pathetic individual in the Blackthorn, at away games with your constant moaning, and on here. When I have seen you at games, you don't appear to be stupid but you do seem very immature for a person of your age. I am sure that you can make your point on this forum, as others have, without resorting to such name calling. The mods say attack the post not the poster but it is quite difficult to exercise restraint where you are concerned. Not all of the 66 that went to yesterday's game will be posters on here but haven't you directly, or indirectly, attacked those that do post by calling them scabs.
As for fronting up and not running away, you are behind a keyboard for f**k's sake. How about you invite them into the left side of the Blackthorn and call them scabs to their face.
I don't agree with the format, and I didn't go last night, but I also don't see the point of calling someone a scab. The arguments against attending are valid and have merit. It's being called a scab that gets people's back up and you set the tone with the first post.
I take pleasure in calling out people for either willfully taking actions to threaten the future of Bristol Rovers and lower league football. As for making a point without resorting to name calling this very immature pathetic individual called a group of people scabs, it's not personal.
Of course it's personal you are calling people obnoxious names for having the temerity to attend a football match in a competition that you and maybe a few thousand pthere around the country disagree with on the grounds that somewhere in the dim and distant future there may or may not have repercussions on lower league football. The same things were being said years ago when the 3rd division was deregionalised and made into divisions 3 and 4.the fears then didn't happen and in all probability these won't either. What you and a few others are doing is turning fan against fan and no good will come of it in fact probably do more harm than what you are predicting with this cup
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Post by 68 on Aug 30, 2017 12:45:47 GMT
Why do you feel justified in taking pleasure from people getting upset by you calling them a scab? You are a pathetic individual in the Blackthorn, at away games with your constant moaning, and on here. When I have seen you at games, you don't appear to be stupid but you do seem very immature for a person of your age. I am sure that you can make your point on this forum, as others have, without resorting to such name calling. The mods say attack the post not the poster but it is quite difficult to exercise restraint where you are concerned. Not all of the 66 that went to yesterday's game will be posters on here but haven't you directly, or indirectly, attacked those that do post by calling them scabs.
As for fronting up and not running away, you are behind a keyboard for f**k's sake. How about you invite them into the left side of the Blackthorn and call them scabs to their face.
I don't agree with the format, and I didn't go last night, but I also don't see the point of calling someone a scab. The arguments against attending are valid and have merit. It's being called a scab that gets people's back up and you set the tone with the first post.
I take pleasure in calling out people for either willfully taking actions to threaten the future of Bristol Rovers and lower league football. As for making a point without resorting to name calling this very immature pathetic individual called a group of people scabs, it's not personal.
I blocked you months ago on the Independent Forum following your digs at Mike. I think your time would be better spent wandering around outside the League HQ with a placard rather than abusing people just because they watch a football match. You are a disgrace.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2017 12:48:40 GMT
On a more positive note,It did illustrate that we have more depth in the squad than I thought.Good to see Parts really emerging as a quality signing at last and Dom Telford too must be pressing for a start. Ryan Broom much improved too and the Arsenal loanee quality. If we can persuade Nicholls to start scoring and keep Billy Bob then could be exciting times ahead although think the Mem would actually need sorting (as opposed to talking about it),if we went up. The truly sad thing is I think the group stage idea was actually good, it's just bringing U23's through the backdoor which is abhorrent. You have 16 under 23 teams included, why? They have their own tournaments, don't dilute the league by including them. If you wanted to include a further 16 teams go for the ten teams in the Scottish Championship and the top six from the League of Ireland or NIFL Premiership. Each group has a Scottish, Northern Irish or Irish team in it, the Scottish or Irish team plays two games at home and every other year an English team is guaranteed an away trip. Attendances would rise due to the Jolly Factor, what's more appealing Wycombe (A) or Bohemians (A) with two nights in Dublin? I can understand adjusting the competition but utterly tearing it apart and making it some kind of reserve trophy is fundamentally wrong and will only lead to more of the like.
I just want to go see Rovers at Macca's Crusaders.
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