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Post by toddy1953 on Aug 30, 2017 8:44:38 GMT
Meanwhile the immature OP is bragging about starting this whole argument. The subject matter has no real value to him, it's just a schoolboy prank and plenty have risen to it. K Thing is I do feel strongly on this, since football has started the way clubs and the game have made money has been in attendances. If the attendances were 0 at every game it would have been stopped in its tracks. By attending these games you are culpable for any further B Team issues. By attending you endorse them. By attending you are putting the future of hundreds of clubs at risk. That's on you, not the folk that boycott, not the folk that call you scabs for going, you can't say you're "supporting" your club because you simply aren't. Just chuck the club a tenner if you're that upset about withholding money from them but don't put the future of the club and lower league football at risk by going to a poxy game that even our manager doesn't take seriously. Maybe when football started, but not a chance nowadays. Do you really think £50m transfers & £300,000pw wages, come from the turnstiles?? If you think that then you have probably been asleep for the last 20 years & just woken up !
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 30, 2017 8:46:29 GMT
we went through this sh** last year on here ~ if fans want to go then they have every right and it is probably a sensible idea if those who don't like do not have a go at them.I don't know why the mods allow it. Shameful If we stopped fans having a go at other fans about stuff we wouldn't have any threads. Also, a lot of posters seem to feel strongly that as few threads as possible are deleted (as a matter of principle - although to be fair there's no real evidence of that, I might do a poll). I was tempted to move the thread very early on to General Chat, but couldn't really justify it as it was definitely focused on Rovers. Istm the people involved were enjoying themselves, insulting each other, talking sh**, and bringing in wider politics in a spurious sort of vaguely uninformed and ridiculous manner, which seems to be what the internet is for, probably. It must be hard as a moderator so respect to you for the time given. I've had my say on the other forum because I saw it first on there so I'm not going to repeat. But if we are meant to answer the post and not the poster some on here and on the other place need reminding let's say! No BRFC fan needs to be called what they've been called for spending time, money supporting the team we all love. Who are these trolls? Some kind if thought-police who think everyone has to do what they do and feel how they feel? its a personal, individual decision to attend or not attend. I've made mine not to attend but they have every right to go and enjoy it. Christ, if we do well in this competition and we might do, we're going to have this outbreak of civil war every month. Joy of joys, that will be fun!! UTG in whatever competition we play in!
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Post by CheshireGas on Aug 30, 2017 8:47:23 GMT
Meanwhile the immature OP is bragging about starting this whole argument. The subject matter has no real value to him, it's just a schoolboy prank and plenty have risen to it. What a sad life some people must lead. I have never understood WUMs or their motivation, it just seems they must be very lonely people bereft of friends or family. What a sad existence if that is all you have in life.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 30, 2017 8:48:59 GMT
Meanwhile the immature OP is bragging about starting this whole argument. The subject matter has no real value to him, it's just a schoolboy prank and plenty have risen to it. Thing is I do feel strongly on this, since football has started the way clubs and the game have made money has been in attendances. If the attendances were 0 at every game it would have been stopped in its tracks. By attending these games you are culpable for any further B Team issues. By attending you endorse them. By attending you are putting the future of hundreds of clubs at risk. That's on you, not the folk that boycott, not the folk that call you scabs for going, you can't say you're "supporting" your club because you simply aren't. Just chuck the club a tenner if you're that upset about withholding money from them but don't put the future of the club and lower league football at risk by going to a poxy game that even our manager doesn't take seriously. But that's not what you said was it? thats a perfectly good argument but you came across as a ...... damage done.
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Post by Baxtinho on Aug 30, 2017 8:51:53 GMT
If you are a true gashead you would go Are you unable to see the bigger picture? I don't think he (and others) are able to see the detrimental effects of this format. Or they're certainly choosing not to. I do appreciate that the decision has already been taken to persist with U23 teams and whatnot, but as chewbacca says, if nobody went - they'd soon change it. Questioning whether someone is a "true Gashead" or not is pretty flaky too. People don't take the decision to boycott games lightly, but sticking to your guns and making it be known that we don't support their changes is one of the few weapons we have left. I'm glad so many games last night were so poorly attended, and hope we continue to vote with our feet.
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Post by stapletongas on Aug 30, 2017 8:51:59 GMT
Yeah right, I didn't come down with the last shower and can see right through you. Your tweet says it all. Posting this thread was one big joke to you, akin to letting a stink bomb off outside the headmasters office then running away smirking. You're not worth anyone's time of day. The folk that are attend are scabs, the fact they are rustled by being called scabs is fantastic, they should feel nothing but shame and I'm still here fronting up, no running away. Ha! Don't pretend you care, you've been exposed for what you really are.
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Post by CheshireGas on Aug 30, 2017 8:52:33 GMT
Meanwhile the immature OP is bragging about starting this whole argument. The subject matter has no real value to him, it's just a schoolboy prank and plenty have risen to it. Thing is I do feel strongly on this, since football has started the way clubs and the game have made money has been in attendances. If the attendances were 0 at every game it would have been stopped in its tracks. By attending these games you are culpable for any further B Team issues. By attending you endorse them. By attending you are putting the future of hundreds of clubs at risk. That's on you, not the folk that boycott, not the folk that call you scabs for going, you can't say you're "supporting" your club because you simply aren't. Just chuck the club a tenner if you're that upset about withholding money from them but don't put the future of the club and lower league football at risk by going to a poxy game that even our manager doesn't take seriously. Chewy 0 attendances would make no difference. There have been record low attendances for many clubs for games. If that doesn't speak volumes nothing will. The people in charge only care about sucking up to the Premier sides and any money they can get out of it. As for DC not taking it seriously we still played to win and gave valuable experience to some young talented players. If we didn't give a sh** why not put out even less experienced players and make a statement of intent by losing?
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2017 8:53:03 GMT
Thing is I do feel strongly on this, since football has started the way clubs and the game have made money has been in attendances. If the attendances were 0 at every game it would have been stopped in its tracks. By attending these games you are culpable for any further B Team issues. By attending you endorse them. By attending you are putting the future of hundreds of clubs at risk. That's on you, not the folk that boycott, not the folk that call you scabs for going, you can't say you're "supporting" your club because you simply aren't. Just chuck the club a tenner if you're that upset about withholding money from them but don't put the future of the club and lower league football at risk by going to a poxy game that even our manager doesn't take seriously. But that's not what you said was it? thats a perfectly good argument but you came across as a ...... damage done. Folk that attend are scabs though, they're putting their own personal interests over those of the larger community. Short term gain for long term pain. I've always called out people having a detrimental effect on the club, lower league football and football on the whole. If people don't like being called scabs don't cross a picket line thousands have joined.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2017 8:55:51 GMT
Thing is I do feel strongly on this, since football has started the way clubs and the game have made money has been in attendances. If the attendances were 0 at every game it would have been stopped in its tracks. By attending these games you are culpable for any further B Team issues. By attending you endorse them. By attending you are putting the future of hundreds of clubs at risk. That's on you, not the folk that boycott, not the folk that call you scabs for going, you can't say you're "supporting" your club because you simply aren't. Just chuck the club a tenner if you're that upset about withholding money from them but don't put the future of the club and lower league football at risk by going to a poxy game that even our manager doesn't take seriously. Chewy 0 attendances would make no difference. There have been record low attendances for many clubs for games. If that doesn't speak volumes nothing will. The people in charge only care about sucking up to the Premier sides and any money they can get out of it. As for DC not taking it seriously we still played to win and gave valuable experience to some young talented players. If we didn't give a sh** why not put out even less experienced players and make a statement of intent by losing? You get fined for playing understrength sides in a tournament that includes Reading Under-23's.
The only reason this farce is still going on is because of the attendance in last years final and monetary payments from the Premier League. We can not effect those payments but by boycotting we can effect the attendances. Oxford and Coventry supporters let down the whole of football last year by attending and I'm hopeful this years final will be Middleborough U23's vs Reading U23's.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 8:56:01 GMT
Yeah right, I didn't come down with the last shower and can see right through you. Your tweet says it all. Posting this thread was one big joke to you, akin to letting a stink bomb off outside the headmasters office then running away smirking. You're not worth anyone's time of day. The folk that are attend are scabs, the fact they are rustled by being called scabs is fantastic, they should feel nothing but shame and I'm still here fronting up, no running away. Ok, so you feel strongly about this. Then why degrade your own opinion with the "Easy ..." Tweet?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 8:57:04 GMT
But that's not what you said was it? thats a perfectly good argument but you came across as a ...... damage done. Folk that attend are scabs though, they're putting their own personal interests over those of the larger community. Short term gain for long term pain. I've always called out people having a detrimental effect on the club, lower league football and football on the whole. If people don't like being called scabs don't cross a picket line thousands have joined. You ain't a true gashead calling other gasheads scabs because they want to watch their team
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Post by Baxtinho on Aug 30, 2017 8:57:30 GMT
Thing is I do feel strongly on this, since football has started the way clubs and the game have made money has been in attendances. If the attendances were 0 at every game it would have been stopped in its tracks. By attending these games you are culpable for any further B Team issues. By attending you endorse them. By attending you are putting the future of hundreds of clubs at risk. That's on you, not the folk that boycott, not the folk that call you scabs for going, you can't say you're "supporting" your club because you simply aren't. Just chuck the club a tenner if you're that upset about withholding money from them but don't put the future of the club and lower league football at risk by going to a poxy game that even our manager doesn't take seriously. Yeah right, I didn't come down with the last shower and can see right through you. Your tweet says it all. Posting this thread was one big joke to you, akin to letting a stink bomb off outside the headmasters office then running away smirking. You're not worth anyone's time of day. Rather than just resort to insults and childish similes, why not say your reasons for wanting to support B Teams? Or the casting aside of many years of history in the tournament for lower-league teams, and directly opposing what the club have voted for themselves?
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Aug 30, 2017 9:00:41 GMT
Respect to you. Can't be easy not to go given your interest in both clubs. Whilst it would be rubbish to miss out on a day at Wembley, I wouldn't attend. If you are a true gashead you would go Rubbish comment. If you want to say that then I'll say, if you were a true gashead you wouldn't have attended last night as the majority of gasheads boycotted and you my friend are in the minority.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2017 9:02:16 GMT
The folk that are attend are scabs, the fact they are rustled by being called scabs is fantastic, they should feel nothing but shame and I'm still here fronting up, no running away. Ok, so you feel strongly about this. Then why degrade your own opinion with the "Easy ..." Tweet? It's quite to very funny how desperately upset people who do attend these games putting the future of our club at risk get when called a scab. Seeing people that do put the club at risk getting riled by it is the least I can do. It brings forward the debate (a debate in which they are inherently wrong).
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Aug 30, 2017 9:03:46 GMT
Attendances of 0 or at least very low, would be a massive statement, in my opinion and would make a difference.
The EFL/Premiership are taking the fans general apathy for granted, and unfortunately are getting the result they want. After an initial whimper, there are no large scale protests and attendances are holding up. Job done, now onto the next stage.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 30, 2017 9:07:20 GMT
Thing is I do feel strongly on this, since football has started the way clubs and the game have made money has been in attendances. If the attendances were 0 at every game it would have been stopped in its tracks. By attending these games you are culpable for any further B Team issues. By attending you endorse them. By attending you are putting the future of hundreds of clubs at risk. That's on you, not the folk that boycott, not the folk that call you scabs for going, you can't say you're "supporting" your club because you simply aren't. Just chuck the club a tenner if you're that upset about withholding money from them but don't put the future of the club and lower league football at risk by going to a poxy game that even our manager doesn't take seriously. Yeah right, I didn't come down with the last shower and can see right through you. Your tweet says it all. Posting this thread was one big joke to you, akin to letting a stink bomb off outside the headmasters office then running away smirking. You're not worth anyone's time of day. Time we banned this Joker from the this Forum
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 30, 2017 9:07:37 GMT
Attendances of 0 or at least very low, would be a massive statement, in my opinion and would make a difference. The EFL/Premiership are taking the fans general apathy for granted, and unfortunately are getting the result they want. After an initial whimper, there are no large scale protests and attendances are holding up. Job done, now onto the next stage. My opinion FWIW..... In my opinion there is only one way to get the EFL to listen/see the error of their ways (if you believe they have messed up this competition big time). They really don't care how many/few watch these preliminary games. Traditionally it has always been poorly supported at this stage. Perhaps more so now with the new format, but I don't believe they care about that either. For me - the only way fans will get them cloth eared idiots at the EFL to listen is to have as few as possible at Wembley. Unless and until that happens the arguments are going over their heads in this one. If fans of all clubs involved (it's not just a BRFC thing) truly believe that this competition is that bad the boycott (if that is what you want to do) has to be carried through right to the end. It's no good staying away and then going to Wembley to give the EFL the satisfaction of a decent sized crowd. They will have won. It, of course, all depends on how strongly you believe in killing this thing off versus your love of the club (whichever gets to the Final). And that is a hard decision to make. But if you feel the fight is worth it that's the decision I think will need to be made. Nothing worth fighting for is ever easy and sacrifices usually have to be made. Call it "tough love" if you like but unless and until they are kicked where it hurts the EFL will continue not to listen Read more: gasheads.org/thread/6710/66-scabs?page=2#ixzz4rEBMyQc6
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Post by wiaww on Aug 30, 2017 9:11:40 GMT
Ignore him, he's one of those weird alt-right types that gets off on baiting people online and thinks an 'anti-PC' stance is somehow courageous. Probably still thinks the Pepe the Frog meme is edgy... Real shame that so many have bitten in this thread, and failed to see the nature of the OP. However I struggle to understand why when a poster goads others and receives a reaction, the majority of this forum chooses to condemn those who are reacting to deliberate provocation, rather than the person who is doing the provoking. The irony of Chewbacca liking the above post hasn't escaped me. Not really sure what your point is? Newmarket takes every given opportunity to push his weird political agenda, a poster reacted (in a fairly appropriate manner considering the contents of Newmarket's post), and I told him to ignore him because it's clear Newmarket thrives on the attention. This has nothing to do with the OP.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 30, 2017 9:18:02 GMT
People getting their knickers in a twist about the "Mickey Mouse" cup. It's been derided as long as it's been in existence.... What 30/35 yrs now ? The other cups have changed, Prem sides joining in later rounds , no replays etc etc. Are these cups to be boycotted as well? The only way this argument will be decided if we come back here in 10 yrs time and there is no lower league football left.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 30, 2017 9:19:59 GMT
we went through this sh** last year on here ~ if fans want to go then they have every right and it is probably a sensible idea if those who don't like do not have a go at them.I don't know why the mods allow it. Shameful If we stopped fans having a go at other fans about stuff we wouldn't have any threads. Also, a lot of posters seem to feel strongly that as few threads as possible are deleted (as a matter of principle - although to be fair there's no real evidence of that, I might do a poll). I was tempted to move the thread very early on to General Chat, but couldn't really justify it as it was definitely focused on Rovers. Istm the people involved were enjoying themselves, insulting each other, talking sh**, and bringing in wider politics in a spurious sort of vaguely uninformed and ridiculous manner, which seems to be what the internet is for, probably. we went through the same thing last year and the problem with this thread is that it gets very personal and turns us against each other. it's crazy that some people have a go at others for supporting the same team. some of the comments made on this thread are worse than if a sh** head came on here and had a go at us. we don't need division. we had a great result last night and should be delighted. Also, the internet was designed for easy access to lesbian porn.
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