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Post by lmgas on Sept 16, 2017 16:21:40 GMT
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Post by pirate on Sept 16, 2017 16:22:32 GMT
You know what I mean players we need not bench warmers. Liam Sercombe, Ryan Sweeney, Tom Nichols and Sam Slocombe are hardly bench warmers? Nichols is hardly a class act at this level though. 10 league goals last season. 12 goals in 66 apps in total at this level. 0 goals and 0 assists in 655 minutes of football this season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 16:23:29 GMT
Ah a loss to one of the best sides in the league and down to 10 men for 60mins and the forum goes into meltdown..... We really do have some fickle keyboard warriors.... We aren't a bad side and I'm still confident that we'll finish higher than 10th this season... We're just inconsistent, have been very unlucky at times and not at our full potential.... We will get better and improve..... Time to sign off from reading for a few days as the negativity that comes following a loss frustrates and annoys me.... Everyone is entitled to an opinion/view - just would be good to read some balanced ones at times and the nonsense people are scaremongering around the charge on the Mem etc when it is just common practice accounting on secured investment which with a sizeable investment of £m's is sensible and standard in commercial Business well I give up ..... See you guys in a few days when hopefully this place has calmed down
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 16:24:48 GMT
M5 currently closed, for any traveling fans.
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Post by pirate on Sept 16, 2017 16:25:03 GMT
The lad left Peterborough partly because he was getting a bit of stick from the fans. Says it all to me. Didn't DC say recently some of our players were "mentally weak"? Perhaps he's added to that with Nichols. But didn't he score 10 or 12 for them last year? 10 league goals is hardly prolific. Even Ellis was only 2 off that total!
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Post by axegas on Sept 16, 2017 16:26:12 GMT
Liam Sercombe, Ryan Sweeney, Tom Nichols and Sam Slocombe are hardly bench warmers? Nichols is hardly a class act at this level though. 10 league goals last season. 12 goals in 66 apps in total at this level. 0 goals and 0 assists in 655 minutes of football this season. Didn't say he was, just disagreed that he was a bench warmer.
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Post by smudge1 on Sept 16, 2017 16:26:22 GMT
We are and will ever be ragbag Rovers. We cannot afford the wages the top players want and we have owners who, for whatever reasons, cannot compete in this league. We cannot attract players to our substandard Stadium and rented training ground. D.C. seems to have too much faith in some of the players and needs to make better use of his loans. He needs to look at how the team is set up and formations because it isn't working!! There is too much pressure on the defence with our midfield being out run every game. He needs to go back to the beginning and look at how to defend and get a rugged 0-0 draw.
I trust D.C. and know he will make the decisions he needs to to make us better. In truth Sweeney Brown and Leadbitter do not look as good as they did last season, problem is who can we replace them with, Clarke (injured), Broadbent (No league experience), Burn (does not look good enough). Partington is the only plus in our so far poor start, he must be carrying an injury for him not to have played today.
It's still early days but we have got nowhere near a top half budget and we will be lucky to finish in the top half. I am frustrated but realise where we are now is better than we were 3 seasons ago! The owners need to decide what they are going to do, the way it reads at the moment they are holding back on everything!! By the way see you at Wolves Tuesday UTG
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 16:26:24 GMT
5 defeats already in mid September. Conceding goals for fun. I'm not optimistic. Yes DC needs to take a long look at himself with no activity in the last transfer window He wanted 10 or 11 players originally and gave the club a list of 33 (?) players 1st,2nd and 3rd choice. 8 players came in. The only player we were definitely told was a number one target was Sercombe. were the others 1st 2nd or 3rd choice players ? The getting of the players through the door was the clubs doing not so much the managers.
The left winger and the defensive midfield player were the two D.C. wanted but never got. The club might have to up their game in January and bring those players in.....that's if they then want to join a lower midtable team ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 16:26:38 GMT
5 defeats already in mid September. Conceding goals for fun. I'm not optimistic. Yes DC needs to take a long look at himself with no activity in the last transfer window DC is a good man manager and gets the best out of players with limited abilities but I think he has some weaknesses ... he is slow in the transfer market and seems to fail to get players in for the key positions he know he needs, seems to lack some ability to organise a defense, seems to over-look certain players he signs and can be too patient with others and can be too stubborn for his own good. His has limited is tactical options by his failure to sign a defensive midfielder and a wide player. Don't get me wrong he is a good manager but he really does need to think about what he can do to improve. Can't see him getting in a coach to help with defending as he would see that as an admission of his own weakness in that area. Overall, a good manager with much to learn.
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Post by bigtgas on Sept 16, 2017 16:27:20 GMT
I wouldn't say no assists. At Bradford he clipped a sweet shot that hit the top corner of the goal and dropped back for Billy Bob to tap in.
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Post by lmgas on Sept 16, 2017 16:28:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 16:29:32 GMT
Some people too quick to write players off. Nichols has looked good in glimspes. Just needs to start having more impact. I think Nichols would be best along-side a big striker in a 4-4-2 formation but we don'y have the players to play that formation so I can see a frustrating season for the lad.
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Post by pirate on Sept 16, 2017 16:30:22 GMT
I wouldn't say no assists. At Bradford he clipped a sweet shot that hit the top corner of the goal and dropped back for Billy Bob to tap in. I don't think that officially counts, but fair enough...in reality that is one. So 0 goals and 1 assist in 655 minutes of football this season.
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Post by pirate on Sept 16, 2017 16:31:23 GMT
Some people too quick to write players off. Nichols has looked good in glimspes. Just needs to start having more impact. I think Nichols would be best along-side a big striker in a 4-4-2 formation but we don'y have the players to play that formation so I can see a frustrating season for the lad. He said the same about a big man in a 4-4-2 when he joined I think.
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Post by lmgas on Sept 16, 2017 16:32:51 GMT
Ellis' 3 misses were in the last four he took, if I'm reading the data correctly!
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Post by midlandgas213 on Sept 16, 2017 16:36:41 GMT
And another shy day at the office Come on Dc sort em out
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Post by twertonboy on Sept 16, 2017 16:38:20 GMT
Yes we lost to a very good team away but in my opinion and a very frustrated one that makes me lose faith in dc is as long as Harrison(a non league player) is on the pitch your playing with 10 men!!! So after when we're down to 10 we're actually down to 9!!! I really don't get why last week gaffney was taken off after 55 mins and he was the one to be sacrificed today...dc is delusional if he thinks Harrison is a top 6 league one striker because that's what we need...how many times does he make the wrong run or give it away etc two players must feel very frustrated in Telford and gaffney...we won't be top 10 and god knows where we're end up...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 16:44:12 GMT
Some people too quick to write players off. Nichols has looked good in glimspes. Just needs to start having more impact. Agree with the Nichols comment GGMI .... also he is a striker and is being played out on the wing. Give the lad a game alongside Gaffney and then let's comment !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 16:45:17 GMT
Yes DC needs to take a long look at himself with no activity in the last transfer window DC is a good man manager and gets the best out of players with limited abilities but I think he has some weaknesses ... he is slow in the transfer market and seems to fail to get players in for the key positions he know he needs, seems to lack some ability to organise a defense, seems to over-look certain players he signs and can be too patient with others and can be too stubborn for his own good. His has limited is tactical options by his failure to sign a defensive midfielder and a wide player. Don't get me wrong he is a good manager but he really does need to think about what he can do to improve. Can't see him getting in a coach to help with defending as he would see that as an admission of his own weakness in that area. Overall, a good manager with much to lerarn. If D.C. was to see it as an admission of his weaknesses then he would be acting like a fool. All the top managers in the top leagues have loads of coaches. Steve Yates was that defensive voice in his ear during matches and in training. It is very apparent conceding 18 goals in 8 league games (over 2 a game !) that there is a collective defence problem. That unless sorted will not lead to a good place.
Tony Pulis used to have Lindsey Parsons,Peter Aitken and Mark o Connor as his backroom team in the lower divisions. In later years he had Gerry Francis and John Rudge amongst others helping him at Stoke City. Chris Hughton has Paul Trollope in his coaching staff.
With the big increases in backroom staff elsewhere in the club maybe its time D.C. increased his coaching staff.
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Post by pucklechurchgas on Sept 16, 2017 16:45:52 GMT
Yes we lost to a very good team away but in my opinion and a very frustrated one that makes me lose faith in dc is as long as Harrison(a non league player) is on the pitch your playing with 10 men!!! So after when we're down to 10 we're actually down to 9!!! I really don't get why last week gaffney was taken off after 55 mins and he was the one to be sacrificed today...dc is delusional if he thinks Harrison is a top 6 league one striker because that's what we need...how many times does he make the wrong run or give it away etc two players must feel very frustrated in Telford and gaffney...we won't be top 10 and god knows where we're end up... Harrison a non league player? DC delusional? Not like our fan base to massively over react after a loss that wasn't that unexpected.
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