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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 26, 2017 21:21:31 GMT
thing is I didn't think we were that terrible tonight. We bossed the first 40 mins. That first goal changed a lot in terms of energy. we had a couple of half chances that a striker with confidence woul: have probably made something of. Sweeney looks half the player he was last year and Locks needs a strong leader alongside him.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 26, 2017 21:21:33 GMT
I wonder how much Shrewsbury have spent...
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Post by justin blue on Sept 26, 2017 21:22:19 GMT
Do we have to bottom of the table before you realise that we are not very good. I agree with Harley, we are playing against decent footballers now at this level, we arent playing the milkman, the barber and a baker.. the rotation system could get away with then. Our own team is not in a brilliant state, just keep things the same for 5 minutes. this whole project thing is bollocks, if the players are any good they adapt themselves to play against the opposition. The swapping of players is not helping us. Rovers absolutely dominated the first half an conceded a dodgy goal on the 42nd minute which must knocked the stuffing out of em. Chasing the game you always risk conceding again as happened before it fell apart completely. The sad fact is we do not have a goal threat to replace Snake and we haven't got the budget to get one. We're still good too watch on our day compared to the stuff we have had to watch over the years, but unless our strikers find their scoring boots we are looking mid table at best. |
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Post by syg on Sept 26, 2017 21:22:24 GMT
I'm really confused, a few days ago we were heading for top 6, few days b4 that relegation, b4 that top 6, now its apocalypse now again. Pointless reading these threads really.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 21:24:21 GMT
The amount of goals were conceding is Obviously worrying and its been a clear issue since we have been in league 1. Another concern is in some games this season like peterbro,wigan,bradford and portsmouth tonight was that once we went behind we never looked like getting a result. Brett pitman is another example of a striker we just couldnt or wouldnt stump up the money to bring to the club. We simply are not in the running for that type of quality. 2 callers want dc out on radio bristol,now sit back and wait for the posters to echo those thoughts. Couldnt make it really could you? We certainly need to stick with and support DC who is a good manager but one that is still learning. He like all of us needs to learn from our mistakes and let's hope he does. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 21:25:32 GMT
D.C. has never made it a secret he plays to win and be entertaining. Being happy it seems away from home to lose two and win one on average across the season.
Which averages a point a game. Rather than playing out games trying not to lose and hoping fortune delivers the odd win.
Trouble with the winning approach (away from home) is its going to lead to a negative goal difference without exception over a season.
It MAY actually be that D.C. does not actually know how to set up a team to not lose (?)
Portsmouth first half were not good ,but were set up not to lose. They got a break and went in half time one up.
For D.C. to get promoted from league one playing the all out to win tactic away from home he will need to spend a LOT of money on strikers.
The current crop (Bodin aside) are not good enough to deliver away from home when things will be tougher.
I cant see D.C. getting a couple of million to spend on strikers in January.So he will have to change his approach away from home.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 26, 2017 21:26:18 GMT
Unfortunately there will be those that jump straight to the default of we've lost a few games let's change the manager. That's worked splendidly in the past hasn't it !! There's no getting away from the fact that we seem to have a soft centre away from home we aren't able to dig in when things are tough. For probably the first time since the start of the conference season DC has serious questions to answer. I can completely understand people calling for a settled back 4 but in reality it's the responsibly of the team as a whole to defend, whatever back 4 is selected will struggle if they get no protection. 433 might be fine at home but think we might have to look at being a little more solid when we go away. For those asking for Lockyer to be left out you might get your wish for the next away game think I'm right that the 7th Oct is an international weekend. DC needs help bringing in players, the club need to act, Wael spending time at Chelsea and being a Fifa rep must have met some respected names. We need someone who can attract decent players. DC is a good manager, but the players he has cam only take him so far. we brought some unknown on for his debut tonight. Our squad has not depth to it..twice now a youth player has come on. Lockyer does need a break, this Saturday for me. don't know why you'd wait until an away game. |
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Post by yategas78 on Sept 26, 2017 21:26:18 GMT
To be honest I think Pompey got the voodoo on us the last three visits to Fratton Park in the league they have stuck 3 past us
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 21:27:47 GMT
Who are you going to play instead of lines and o clarke in midfield? broadbent played v bradford and their strikers didnt give a toss about going near him! If none of the strikers can score what difference does it make up front? that is the problem. we have players who aren't playing well. too many not performing and is why we lose. we don't have other options. again. strikers aren't setting the world alight. All adds up that the players we have at the moment aren't consistent enough to find any sort of form or just aren't good enough. We know that we cant afford the best players and that we have for the 1st time under dc had a long injury list. The answer is for the team to stick together and work hard to get some form and results. I would say our job is to get behind them at matches and help them through this sticky patch but if we lose saturday people will leave early and "fans" will boo the team so the team will have to turn it around on their own. |
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Post by Gassy on Sept 26, 2017 21:28:49 GMT
I reckon we wil be lucky to get a point against Muff Yes. Thank god we haven't got one of the top teams, like Blackpool..... We need to get a grip. On another day we would have won tonight on that first half performance. We have a very good home record and are playing the bottom club. We have every reason to be confident. Sorry fella but I couldn't disagree with you more. It was a game of 2 halves and we lost both, so don't see your point about another day.. weren't Oldham bottom of the table too? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 21:32:51 GMT
Unfortunately there will be those that jump straight to the default of we've lost a few games let's change the manager. That's worked splendidly in the past hasn't it !! There's no getting away from the fact that we seem to have a soft centre away from home we aren't able to dig in when things are tough. For probably the first time since the start of the conference season DC has serious questions to answer. I can completely understand people calling for a settled back 4 but in reality it's the responsibly of the team as a whole to defend, whatever back 4 is selected will struggle if they get no protection. 433 might be fine at home but think we might have to look at being a little more solid when we go away. For those asking for Lockyer to be left out you might get your wish for the next away game think I'm right that the 7th Oct is an international weekend. DC needs help bringing in players, the club need to act, Wael spending time at Chelsea and being a Fifa rep must have met some respected names. We need someone who can attract decent players. DC is a good manager, but the players he has cam only take him so far. we brought some unknown on for his debut tonight. Our squad has not depth to it..twice now a youth player has come on. Lockyer does need a break, this Saturday for me. don't know why you'd wait until an away game. Young players have to start somewhere though,i could put a long list of young players who became fine players for the club. Do you want to ban all development squad players playing for the 1st team? There is no serious money to spend so the quicker we get young players into the team the better imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 21:33:41 GMT
thing is I didn't think we were that terrible tonight. We bossed the first 40 mins. That first goal changed a lot in terms of energy. we had a couple of half chances that a striker with confidence woul: have probably made something of. Sweeney looks half the player he was last year and Locks needs a strong leader alongside him. 1) we gave away 3 goals 2) we didn't score any goals 3) we returned pointless 4) Portsmouth weren't great but still beat us 3-0 5) so what does DC do now well we brush ourselves down and we go again but which team which formation,no ones safe in the team other than TL so what confidence do that give the rest when Saturday approaches god only knows |
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Post by justin blue on Sept 26, 2017 21:33:49 GMT
I'm really confused, a few days ago we were heading for top 6, few days b4 that relegation, b4 that top 6, now its apocalypse now again. Pointless reading these threads really. I'll try and help you. We win = We are heading for the playoffs We win again = Automatic promotion 3 on the bounce = Champions We lose one = relegation Fact is we are fickle feckers. |
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Post by markczgas on Sept 26, 2017 21:33:58 GMT
Do we have to bottom of the table before you realise that we are not very good. I agree with Harley, we are playing against decent footballers now at this level, we arent playing the milkman, the barber and a baker.. the rotation system could get away with then. Our own team is not in a brilliant state, just keep things the same for 5 minutes. this whole project thing is bollocks, if the players are any good they adapt themselves to play against the opposition. The swapping of players is not helping us. Rovers absolutely dominated the first half an conceded a dodgy goal on the 42nd minute which must knocked the stuffing out of em. Chasing the game you always risk conceding again as happened before it fell apart completely. The sad fact is we do not have a goal threat to replace Snake and we haven't got the budget to get one. We're still good too watch on our day compared to the stuff we have had to watch over the years, but unless our strikers find their scoring boots we are looking mid table at best. This I agree with but it doesn't excuse the number of goals we are conceding - whether we are at home or away - you have that feeling that the other team will score. Away from home we can't even get to ht at 0 -0 - the players muse be losing belief that they'll get a result. We haven't got many players to shuffle things around but Lockyer and Sweeney in the middle ain't working - another 3 tonight all from Pompey's forwards. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Sept 26, 2017 21:34:03 GMT
Unfortunately there will be those that jump straight to the default of we've lost a few games let's change the manager. That's worked splendidly in the past hasn't it !! There's no getting away from the fact that we seem to have a soft centre away from home we aren't able to dig in when things are tough. For probably the first time since the start of the conference season DC has serious questions to answer. I can completely understand people calling for a settled back 4 but in reality it's the responsibly of the team as a whole to defend, whatever back 4 is selected will struggle if they get no protection. 433 might be fine at home but think we might have to look at being a little more solid when we go away. For those asking for Lockyer to be left out you might get your wish for the next away game think I'm right that the 7th Oct is an international weekend. DC needs help bringing in players, the club need to act, Wael spending time at Chelsea and being a Fifa rep must have met some respected names. We need someone who can attract decent players. DC is a good manager, but the players he has cam only take him so far. we brought some unknown on for his debut tonight. Our squad has not depth to it..twice now a youth player has come on. Lockyer does need a break, this Saturday for me. don't know why you'd wait until an away game. Fair points but personally I don't think it will happen. DC doesn't like two right/left footers together & with Burn & J Clarke injured I'm not sure who would replace him. |
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 26, 2017 21:36:14 GMT
Unfortunately there will be those that jump straight to the default of we've lost a few games let's change the manager. That's worked splendidly in the past hasn't it !! There's no getting away from the fact that we seem to have a soft centre away from home we aren't able to dig in when things are tough. For probably the first time since the start of the conference season DC has serious questions to answer. I can completely understand people calling for a settled back 4 but in reality it's the responsibly of the team as a whole to defend, whatever back 4 is selected will struggle if they get no protection. 433 might be fine at home but think we might have to look at being a little more solid when we go away. For those asking for Lockyer to be left out you might get your wish for the next away game think I'm right that the 7th Oct is an international weekend. DC needs help bringing in players, the club need to act, Wael spending time at Chelsea and being a Fifa rep must have met some respected names. We need someone who can attract decent players. DC is a good manager, but the players he has cam only take him so far. we brought some unknown on for his debut tonight. Our squad has not depth to it..twice now a youth player has come on. Lockyer does need a break, this Saturday for me. don't know why you'd wait until an away game. Have to disagree with pretty much all of this, but the youth point is the major one. It shows our depth that we can bring on youth players that we are bringing through. No one was complaining after Andre's debut. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 26, 2017 21:37:26 GMT
Unfortunately there will be those that jump straight to the default of we've lost a few games let's change the manager. That's worked splendidly in the past hasn't it !! There's no getting away from the fact that we seem to have a soft centre away from home we aren't able to dig in when things are tough. For probably the first time since the start of the conference season DC has serious questions to answer. I can completely understand people calling for a settled back 4 but in reality it's the responsibly of the team as a whole to defend, whatever back 4 is selected will struggle if they get no protection. 433 might be fine at home but think we might have to look at being a little more solid when we go away. For those asking for Lockyer to be left out you might get your wish for the next away game think I'm right that the 7th Oct is an international weekend. DC needs help bringing in players, the club need to act, Wael spending time at Chelsea and being a Fifa rep must have met some respected names. We need someone who can attract decent players. DC is a good manager, but the players he has cam only take him so far. we brought some unknown on for his debut tonight. Our squad has not depth to it..twice now a youth player has come on. Lockyer does need a break, this Saturday for me. don't know why you'd wait until an away game. Why does Locks need a break, before his suspension nobody was calling for him to be dropped and we've hardly got a surplus of right footed CB's waiting to take his place? |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 26, 2017 21:42:17 GMT
DC needs help bringing in players, the club need to act, Wael spending time at Chelsea and being a Fifa rep must have met some respected names. We need someone who can attract decent players. DC is a good manager, but the players he has cam only take him so far. we brought some unknown on for his debut tonight. Our squad has not depth to it..twice now a youth player has come on. Lockyer does need a break, this Saturday for me. don't know why you'd wait until an away game. Have to disagree with pretty much all of this, but the youth point is the major one. It shows our depth that we can bring on youth players that we are bringing through. No one was complaining after Andre's debut. He was dropped for the next game, and an injured goal keeper replaced him. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 21:42:48 GMT
Who cares if we won drew or lost tonight I do and I'll still be there Saturday and most games this season.
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 26, 2017 21:43:41 GMT
Have to disagree with pretty much all of this, but the youth point is the major one. It shows our depth that we can bring on youth players that we are bringing through. No one was complaining after Andre's debut. He was dropped for the next game, and an injured goal keeper replaced him. The point I'm making is we have a proper youth setup now with actually decent players coming through |
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