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Post by stevek192 on Oct 8, 2017 11:46:21 GMT
Tbonegas is entitled to his opinion although I think he is very wrong as he was about Matty Taylor! If we all thought the same way then football would be pretty boring as would the forum!
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Post by gertrude1883 on Oct 8, 2017 11:57:54 GMT
Simple question@: - it seems every player yesterday had a good day (even Nicholls who set up two of the goals and the pass for Sercome's goal was sublime) Which player who had a good game should be dropped for the next game? - and why? Pointless question. Leave it up to DC, he's in charge and will pick the team he deems necessary for the next challenge. In DC I certainly trust! UTG. PS back to dominant.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 12:03:13 GMT
Telford already has. Nichols is not very good at his job. Which, correct me if I'm wrong,is to score goals. Your wrong. His job is to link the attack to midfield and help our team win whether it by setting up goals , scoring goals or playing well by passing the ball well and keeping possession well. He was bought as a striker. A strikers job is to score goals. He seems to be pretty crap at that particular element of his job. So far he has been the biggest waste of money since Mickey Evans.
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Post by knowall on Oct 8, 2017 12:04:11 GMT
Simple question@: - it seems every player yesterday had a good day (even Nicholls who set up two of the goals and the pass for Sercome's goal was sublime) Which player who had a good game should be dropped for the next game? - and why? have you just arrived in bristol from planet jupiter? Its just that i wonder how many times the manager will have to explain his management style to us supporters? He has clearly stated he has a squad of players and he picks from that squad the team he thinks is best suited to the next match[project]. Dismissing your attempt to be rude - (I have supported Rovers for over 70 years) - you haven't answered the question (probably because you don't understand it)? Our next game is against Oxford at home who are on the same points and presumably similar ability to Rovers. Working on the 'project' and despite all players having a good game - knowing DC rarely plays the same team - which player will he (or you) drop for the next game? and why? Just asking you to pre-judge DCs thinking -
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Post by knowall on Oct 8, 2017 12:18:08 GMT
Your wrong. His job is to link the attack to midfield and help our team win whether it by setting up goals , scoring goals or playing well by passing the ball well and keeping possession well. He was bought as a striker. A strikers job is to score goals. He seems to be pretty crap at that particular element of his job. So far he has been the biggest waste of money since Mickey Evans. are you the same tbonegas who complained about Taylor not scoring for ages and missing so many one-on-ones when he first joined Rovers?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 13:14:55 GMT
He was bought as a striker. A strikers job is to score goals. He seems to be pretty crap at that particular element of his job. So far he has been the biggest waste of money since Mickey Evans. are you the same tbonegas who complained about Taylor not scoring for ages and missing so many one-on-ones when he first joined Rovers? The basics of what tbonegas says is correct. The ultimate job of a striker IS to score goals. The same as the ultimate job of a defender or goal keeper is to keep a clean sheet. However ,if players contribute greatly to the team winning the game then their ultimate task is overlooked as it becomes a secondary consideration. Nicholls may be really happy with his game at the moment as might D.C. .....BUT... they would both be even happier if T.N. had scored five goals so far this season (which realistically with pens,posts,good saves and near misses he could have achieved)
Nicholls will feel a little unhappy that in a six nil victory the other strikers and attacking midfield players all scored Bodin,Gaffney,Harrison,Telford,Sercombe but he didn't.
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Post by baggins on Oct 8, 2017 13:22:02 GMT
are you the same tbonegas who complained about Taylor not scoring for ages and missing so many one-on-ones when he first joined Rovers? The basics of what tbonegas says is correct. The ultimate job of a striker IS to score goals. The same as the ultimate job of a defender or goal keeper is to keep a clean sheet. However ,if players contribute greatly to the team winning the game then their ultimate task is overlooked as it becomes a secondary consideration. Nicholls may be really happy with his game at the moment as might D.C. .....BUT... they would both be even happier if T.N. had scored five goals so far this season (which realistically with pens,posts,good saves and near misses he could have achieved)
Nicholls will feel a little unhappy that in a six nil victory the other strikers and attacking midfield players all scored Bodin,Gaffney,Harrison,Telford,Sercombe but he didn't.
Give him that one goal and he'll be knocking them in, as I expect will Telford. Nice to see so many of the rest of the squad scoring. Bring on Oxford.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 13:36:47 GMT
The basics of what tbonegas says is correct. The ultimate job of a striker IS to score goals. The same as the ultimate job of a defender or goal keeper is to keep a clean sheet. However ,if players contribute greatly to the team winning the game then their ultimate task is overlooked as it becomes a secondary consideration. Nicholls may be really happy with his game at the moment as might D.C. .....BUT... they would both be even happier if T.N. had scored five goals so far this season (which realistically with pens,posts,good saves and near misses he could have achieved)
Nicholls will feel a little unhappy that in a six nil victory the other strikers and attacking midfield players all scored Bodin,Gaffney,Harrison,Telford,Sercombe but he didn't.
Give him that one goal and he'll be knocking them in, as I expect will Telford. Nice to see so many of the rest of the squad scoring. Bring on Oxford. That's what everybody wants . Just have to be patient and have faith in him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 14:22:14 GMT
have you just arrived in bristol from planet jupiter? Its just that i wonder how many times the manager will have to explain his management style to us supporters? He has clearly stated he has a squad of players and he picks from that squad the team he thinks is best suited to the next match[project]. Dismissing your attempt to be rude - (I have supported Rovers for over 70 years) - you haven't answered the question (probably because you don't understand it)? Our next game is against Oxford at home who are on the same points and presumably similar ability to Rovers. Working on the 'project' and despite all players having a good game - knowing DC rarely plays the same team - which player will he (or you) drop for the next game? and why? Just asking you to pre-judge DCs thinking - I think "dropped" is the wrong word to use knowing how dc operates. Sorry if i misunderstood your question in your post,its just drives me nuts when people go on about keeping the same team despite all we know about the managers methods. I dont think any of us can read his selections because right or wrong some of the process is about our opponents. He likes leadbitter at right back if he feels pace is important on the day for example. I dont believe he will punish lockyer and sweeney for being on international duty so i predict they will both play despite yesterdays game.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Oct 8, 2017 14:58:05 GMT
Dismissing your attempt to be rude - (I have supported Rovers for over 70 years) - you haven't answered the question (probably because you don't understand it)? Our next game is against Oxford at home who are on the same points and presumably similar ability to Rovers. Working on the 'project' and despite all players having a good game - knowing DC rarely plays the same team - which player will he (or you) drop for the next game? and why? Just asking you to pre-judge DCs thinking - I think "dropped" is the wrong word to use knowing how dc operates. Sorry if i misunderstood your question in your post,its just drives me nuts when people go on about keeping the same team despite all we know about the managers methods. I dont think any of us can read his selections because right or wrong some of the process is about our opponents. He likes leadbitter at right back if he feels pace is important on the day for example. I dont believe he will punish lockyer and sweeney for being on international duty so i predict they will both play despite yesterdays game. On the flip side why "punish" broadbent and rollin?
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Post by knowall on Oct 8, 2017 15:13:48 GMT
Dismissing your attempt to be rude - (I have supported Rovers for over 70 years) - you haven't answered the question (probably because you don't understand it)? Our next game is against Oxford at home who are on the same points and presumably similar ability to Rovers. Working on the 'project' and despite all players having a good game - knowing DC rarely plays the same team - which player will he (or you) drop for the next game? and why? Just asking you to pre-judge DCs thinking - I think "dropped" is the wrong word to use knowing how dc operates. Sorry if i misunderstood your question in your post,its just drives me nuts when people go on about keeping the same team despite all we know about the managers methods. I dont think any of us can read his selections because right or wrong some of the process is about our opponents. He likes leadbitter at right back if he feels pace is important on the day for example. I dont believe he will punish lockyer and sweeney for being on international duty so i predict they will both play despite yesterdays game. What word would you use? especially if you were - say - Harrison - and not selected next week? That is why I posed the question - 'why'? would you drop/replace/sub/leave him out?? Where I think critics have a point is does DC give too much respect to the opposition? - because how well does he know the opposition - how good are our scouts? Even yesterday we could have been one down early on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 16:33:19 GMT
The basics of what tbonegas says is correct. The ultimate job of a striker IS to score goals. The same as the ultimate job of a defender or goal keeper is to keep a clean sheet. However ,if players contribute greatly to the team winning the game then their ultimate task is overlooked as it becomes a secondary consideration. Nicholls may be really happy with his game at the moment as might D.C. .....BUT... they would both be even happier if T.N. had scored five goals so far this season (which realistically with pens,posts,good saves and near misses he could have achieved)
Nicholls will feel a little unhappy that in a six nil victory the other strikers and attacking midfield players all scored Bodin,Gaffney,Harrison,Telford,Sercombe but he didn't.
Give him that one goal and he'll be knocking them in, as I expect will Telford. Nice to see so many of the rest of the squad scoring. Bring on Oxford. The euphoria after yesterday's stunning victory is not unexpectedetected but let's try to keep things in perspective.yes we scored 6 and could or should have had 10 but it was a team hit by long term injuries to first choice players.a team who hadon't scored in previous 4 games with confidence shot to pieces. For the first 10 minutes they looked ok and up for it but as soon as the first goal went in you could see a few heads drop seeming to say here we go again. Unless things change rapidly they are nailed on to go down so in effect it was a predictable victory. Oxford will be a different proposition next Saturday so don't expect them to roll over I am not belitiling yesterday's performance but let's not go overboard thinking everything in the garden is rosy because it isn't yet.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 8, 2017 17:46:51 GMT
Give him that one goal and he'll be knocking them in, as I expect will Telford. Nice to see so many of the rest of the squad scoring. Bring on Oxford. The euphoria after yesterday's stunning victory is not unexpectedetected but let's try to keep things in perspective.yes we scored 6 and could or should have had 10 but it was a team hit by long term injuries to first choice players.a team who hadon't scored in previous 4 games with confidence shot to pieces. For the first 10 minutes they looked ok and up for it but as soon as the first goal went in you could see a few heads drop seeming to say here we go again. Unless things change rapidly they are nailed on to go down so in effect it was a predictable victory. Oxford will be a different proposition next Saturday so don't expect them to roll over I am not belitiling yesterday's performance but let's not go overboard thinking everything in the garden is rosy because it isn't yet. They only look nailed to go down after yesterday's hammering, if they'd won yesterday they wouldn't even be in the bottom 4. One win doesn't make a season but was an impressive win bearing in mind we had two players on international duty and lost Bodin early on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 18:10:29 GMT
The euphoria after yesterday's stunning victory is not unexpectedetected but let's try to keep things in perspective.yes we scored 6 and could or should have had 10 but it was a team hit by long term injuries to first choice players.a team who hadon't scored in previous 4 games with confidence shot to pieces. For the first 10 minutes they looked ok and up for it but as soon as the first goal went in you could see a few heads drop seeming to say here we go again. Unless things change rapidly they are nailed on to go down so in effect it was a predictable victory. Oxford will be a different proposition next Saturday so don't expect them to roll over I am not belitiling yesterday's performance but let's not go overboard thinking everything in the garden is rosy because it isn't yet. They only look nailed to go down after yesterday's hammering, if they'd won yesterday they wouldn't even be in the bottom 4. One win doesn't make a season but was an impressive win bearing in mind we had two players on international duty and lost Bodin early on. As I said I am not belittling the result or performancestors but compare it to the game against Plymouth who are rock bottom and you get a true perspective of where we are. As you said we had 2 players on international duty but they haven't been that successfully in stopping teams scoring. Just trying to calm people down and not to expect another result like this or another very poor class of opposition
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Post by yategas78 on Oct 8, 2017 18:25:16 GMT
Nichols is one hell of a player he will start banging in the goals as will Dom Telford given the chance!! Telford already has. Nichols is not very good at his job. Which, correct me if I'm wrong,is to score goals. Matty the Snake Taylor couldn't find the net for weeks he turned out alright, give the guy a few more games he will come good
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 22:13:43 GMT
I think "dropped" is the wrong word to use knowing how dc operates. Sorry if i misunderstood your question in your post,its just drives me nuts when people go on about keeping the same team despite all we know about the managers methods. I dont think any of us can read his selections because right or wrong some of the process is about our opponents. He likes leadbitter at right back if he feels pace is important on the day for example. I dont believe he will punish lockyer and sweeney for being on international duty so i predict they will both play despite yesterdays game. On the flip side why "punish" broadbent and rollin? Fair point,i just think he will select lockyer and sweeney.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 22:21:31 GMT
I think "dropped" is the wrong word to use knowing how dc operates. Sorry if i misunderstood your question in your post,its just drives me nuts when people go on about keeping the same team despite all we know about the managers methods. I dont think any of us can read his selections because right or wrong some of the process is about our opponents. He likes leadbitter at right back if he feels pace is important on the day for example. I dont believe he will punish lockyer and sweeney for being on international duty so i predict they will both play despite yesterdays game. What word would you use? especially if you were - say - Harrison - and not selected next week? That is why I posed the question - 'why'? would you drop/replace/sub/leave him out?? Where I think critics have a point is does DC give too much respect to the opposition? - because how well does he know the opposition - how good are our scouts? Even yesterday we could have been one down early on. Hopefully any player left out of any game will be fed up but the squad all know how the manager operates. With the "respect the opposition" issue its just another part of how he operates and its right if were near the top and wrong if were near the bottom to most people in the modern world i suppose.
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Post by baggins on Oct 9, 2017 4:56:04 GMT
Give him that one goal and he'll be knocking them in, as I expect will Telford. Nice to see so many of the rest of the squad scoring. Bring on Oxford. The euphoria after yesterday's stunning victory is not unexpectedetected but let's try to keep things in perspective.yes we scored 6 and could or should have had 10 but it was a team hit by long term injuries to first choice players.a team who hadon't scored in previous 4 games with confidence shot to pieces. For the first 10 minutes they looked ok and up for it but as soon as the first goal went in you could see a few heads drop seeming to say here we go again. Unless things change rapidly they are nailed on to go down so in effect it was a predictable victory. Oxford will be a different proposition next Saturday so don't expect them to roll over I am not belitiling yesterday's performance but let's not go overboard thinking everything in the garden is rosy because it isn't yet. You can only beat the team put in front of you. Why couldn't you just be happy at a great away win? Jeez.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 9:21:06 GMT
Which player who had a good game should be dropped for the next game? - and why? It doesn't really matter what an individual player does, though, does it? DC makes it pretty clear that for each game he builds the team from the ground up from scratch to fulfill the role he thinks it needs to perform for that match. And he calls this a project. He's been doing this for three years. Yes, generally in football we're all used to players being picked on form, and on not changing a winning team, and on playing for your place, and going for stability, and keeping your place in the team, and however else you want to put it, that is (was?) the norm in football. But DC hasn't done that right from the start and he doesn't do that now, and everyone knows that. Istm either you buy into that or you don't. And he's failed miserably winning just seven away league matches out of twenty nine since being back in this division - with many of those away performances being absolutely dire. One excellent away performance and many on here are going into orgasmic overload. If he changes this team after last Saturday's performance I for one, as a paying supporter/ customer will be disappointed and I sure some of the players will be as well. The back four up until last Saturday have been pretty poor even with all his tinkering and there is no justification to change a winning side. The new guard came in and did a good job - admittedly against poor opposition - equally Plymouth were almost as poor last week - and the performance was not particularly inspiring - another game we could so easily have dropped points.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 9:30:25 GMT
It doesn't really matter what an individual player does, though, does it? DC makes it pretty clear that for each game he builds the team from the ground up from scratch to fulfill the role he thinks it needs to perform for that match. And he calls this a project. He's been doing this for three years. Yes, generally in football we're all used to players being picked on form, and on not changing a winning team, and on playing for your place, and going for stability, and keeping your place in the team, and however else you want to put it, that is (was?) the norm in football. But DC hasn't done that right from the start and he doesn't do that now, and everyone knows that. Istm either you buy into that or you don't. And he's failed miserably winning just seven away league matches out of twenty nine since being back in this division - with many of those away performances being absolutely dire. One excellent away performance and many on here are going into orgasmic overload. If he changes this team after last Saturday's performance I for one, as a paying supporter/ customer will be disappointed and I sure some of the players will be as well. The back four up until last Saturday have been pretty poor even with all his tinkering and there is no justification to change a winning side. The new guard came in and did a good job - admittedly against poor opposition - equally Plymouth were almost as poor last week - and the performance was not particularly inspiring - another game we could so easily have dropped points. Well fellow gashead you will be disappointed he will make at least 3 changes yes the away record ain't the best but you can't knock the home record?
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