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Post by peterparker on Oct 9, 2017 9:38:33 GMT
It doesn't really matter what an individual player does, though, does it? DC makes it pretty clear that for each game he builds the team from the ground up from scratch to fulfill the role he thinks it needs to perform for that match. And he calls this a project. He's been doing this for three years. Yes, generally in football we're all used to players being picked on form, and on not changing a winning team, and on playing for your place, and going for stability, and keeping your place in the team, and however else you want to put it, that is (was?) the norm in football. But DC hasn't done that right from the start and he doesn't do that now, and everyone knows that. Istm either you buy into that or you don't. And he's failed miserably winning just seven away league matches out of twenty nine since being back in this division - with many of those away performances being absolutely dire. One excellent away performance and many on here are going into orgasmic overload. If he changes this team after last Saturday's performance I for one, as a paying supporter/ customer will be disappointed and I sure some of the players will be as well. The back four up until last Saturday have been pretty poor even with all his tinkering and there is no justification to change a winning side. The new guard came in and did a good job - admittedly against poor opposition - equally Plymouth were almost as poor last week - and the performance was not particularly inspiring - another game we could so easily have dropped points. none of us knows how the players feel when they aren't picked, however DC has made abundantly clear on numerous occasions that the players do (and have to) buy into his way of doing things and if they don't like they either don't sign or they clear off.
One thing is for sure no one can guess what team DC will put out any given week, not least the opposition
I am sure today DC and Marcus will more or less know the team he is picking for the next game and they will work with them for the upcoming game. It's not like he picks the team 5 minutes before the team sheet has to go in
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 10:13:08 GMT
And he's failed miserably winning just seven away league matches out of twenty nine since being back in this division - with many of those away performances being absolutely dire. One excellent away performance and many on here are going into orgasmic overload. If he changes this team after last Saturday's performance I for one, as a paying supporter/ customer will be disappointed and I sure some of the players will be as well. The back four up until last Saturday have been pretty poor even with all his tinkering and there is no justification to change a winning side. The new guard came in and did a good job - admittedly against poor opposition - equally Plymouth were almost as poor last week - and the performance was not particularly inspiring - another game we could so easily have dropped points. Well fellow gashead you will be disappointed he will make at least 3 changes yes the away record ain't the best but you can't knock the home record? You're absolutely right we can't knock the home record - without it we would've been relegation fodder. I would suggest the Mem is an intimidating place to visit, certainly for younger players - a fairly unique set of passionate supporters which can make all the difference IMO.
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Post by rambo on Oct 9, 2017 12:17:59 GMT
Well fellow gashead you will be disappointed he will make at least 3 changes yes the away record ain't the best but you can't knock the home record? You're absolutely right we can't knock the home record - without it we would've been relegation fodder. I would suggest the Mem is an intimidating place to visit, certainly for younger players - a fairly unique set of passionate supporters which can make all the difference IMO. As with almost any side in the country though, success over a season is mostly attributable to the home record and pick up points where you can away from home. Any team struggling at home will be relegation fodder.
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Post by rambo on Oct 9, 2017 12:29:52 GMT
Come at it a different angle though, if there was little to no tinkering, half a squad gets left out. That leads to lack of match fitness/sharpness, pressure to take opportunities when they arise if you don't know where the next one will come from, possibly a divide in the squad, resentment towards the gaffer etc etc.
Come January we should have 20 players who have all had game time match fit and given a chance. Add in a couple of signings and we can finish strong.
We may have picked up a few more points without the changes being made to this point but I think in the long run this method is definitely beneficial.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 9, 2017 12:32:30 GMT
Come at it a different angle though, if there was little to no tinkering, half a squad gets left out. That leads to lack of match fitness/sharpness, pressure to take opportunities when they arise if you don't know where the next one will come from, possibly a divide in the squad, resentment towards the gaffer etc etc. Come January we should have 20 players who have all had game time match fit and given a chance. Add in a couple of signings and we can finish strong. We may have picked up a few more points without the changes being made to this point but I think in the long run this method is definitely beneficial. Good points Rambo, I agree.
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Post by knowall on Oct 9, 2017 13:24:41 GMT
And he's failed miserably winning just seven away league matches out of twenty nine since being back in this division - with many of those away performances being absolutely dire. One excellent away performance and many on here are going into orgasmic overload. If he changes this team after last Saturday's performance I for one, as a paying supporter/ customer will be disappointed and I sure some of the players will be as well. The back four up until last Saturday have been pretty poor even with all his tinkering and there is no justification to change a winning side. The new guard came in and did a good job - admittedly against poor opposition - equally Plymouth were almost as poor last week - and the performance was not particularly inspiring - another game we could so easily have dropped points. none of us knows how the players feel when they aren't picked, however DC has made abundantly clear on numerous occasions that the players do (and have to) buy into his way of doing things and if they don't like they either don't sign or they clear off.
One thing is for sure no one can guess what team DC will put out any given week, not least the opposition
I am sure today DC and Marcus will more or less know the team he is picking for the next game and they will work with them for the upcoming game. It's not like he picks the team 5 minutes before the team sheet has to go in
And you know this how??
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Post by peterparker on Oct 9, 2017 13:29:40 GMT
none of us knows how the players feel when they aren't picked, however DC has made abundantly clear on numerous occasions that the players do (and have to) buy into his way of doing things and if they don't like they either don't sign or they clear off.
One thing is for sure no one can guess what team DC will put out any given week, not least the opposition
I am sure today DC and Marcus will more or less know the team he is picking for the next game and they will work with them for the upcoming game. It's not like he picks the team 5 minutes before the team sheet has to go in
And you know this how?? yeah you are right. I guess they don't work on anything all week and just play FIFA
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Post by knowall on Oct 9, 2017 13:40:33 GMT
Come at it a different angle though, if there was little to no tinkering, half a squad gets left out. That leads to lack of match fitness/sharpness, pressure to take opportunities when they arise if you don't know where the next one will come from, possibly a divide in the squad, resentment towards the gaffer etc etc. Come January we should have 20 players who have all had game time match fit and given a chance. Add in a couple of signings and we can finish strong. We may have picked up a few more points without the changes being made to this point but I think in the long run this method is definitely beneficial. DC has used 24 players already and changes 3.7 players per match so who will be included instead of whom - and how many? to play Oxford?
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Post by gaelgas on Oct 9, 2017 15:58:31 GMT
Come at it a different angle though, if there was little to no tinkering, half a squad gets left out. That leads to lack of match fitness/sharpness, pressure to take opportunities when they arise if you don't know where the next one will come from, possibly a divide in the squad, resentment towards the gaffer etc etc. Come January we should have 20 players who have all had game time match fit and given a chance. Add in a couple of signings and we can finish strong. We may have picked up a few more points without the changes being made to this point but I think in the long run this method is definitely beneficial. DC has used 24 players already and changes 3.7 players per match so who will be included instead of whom - and how many? to play Oxford? To be fair though quite a few of those changes have been enforced what with players getting sent off, away at international duty, injured and then coming back.
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Post by rambo on Oct 9, 2017 20:32:03 GMT
Come at it a different angle though, if there was little to no tinkering, half a squad gets left out. That leads to lack of match fitness/sharpness, pressure to take opportunities when they arise if you don't know where the next one will come from, possibly a divide in the squad, resentment towards the gaffer etc etc. Come January we should have 20 players who have all had game time match fit and given a chance. Add in a couple of signings and we can finish strong. We may have picked up a few more points without the changes being made to this point but I think in the long run this method is definitely beneficial. DC has used 24 players already and changes 3.7 players per match so who will be included instead of whom - and how many? to play Oxford? Well I haven't a clue and its almost impossible to second guess DC but I'll give it a go. I think lockyer will come in for menayese, nichols for bodin and sinclair for o clarke
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 23:43:37 GMT
It doesn't really matter what an individual player does, though, does it? DC makes it pretty clear that for each game he builds the team from the ground up from scratch to fulfill the role he thinks it needs to perform for that match. And he calls this a project. He's been doing this for three years. Yes, generally in football we're all used to players being picked on form, and on not changing a winning team, and on playing for your place, and going for stability, and keeping your place in the team, and however else you want to put it, that is (was?) the norm in football. But DC hasn't done that right from the start and he doesn't do that now, and everyone knows that. Istm either you buy into that or you don't. And he's failed miserably winning just seven away league matches out of twenty nine since being back in this division - with many of those away performances being absolutely dire. One excellent away performance and many on here are going into orgasmic overload. If he changes this team after last Saturday's performance I for one, as a paying supporter/ customer will be disappointed and I sure some of the players will be as well. The back four up until last Saturday have been pretty poor even with all his tinkering and there is no justification to change a winning side. The new guard came in and did a good job - admittedly against poor opposition - equally Plymouth were almost as poor last week - and the performance was not particularly inspiring - another game we could so easily have dropped points. The manager has a team selection style you dont like,never mind eh? Personally i hope he just keeps managing in the style he has up to now until he moves onto to a bigger club. Hopefully for you but not for me the next manager will fit in with your ideas on team selection.
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Post by knowall on Oct 10, 2017 11:59:18 GMT
And he's failed miserably winning just seven away league matches out of twenty nine since being back in this division - with many of those away performances being absolutely dire. One excellent away performance and many on here are going into orgasmic overload. If he changes this team after last Saturday's performance I for one, as a paying supporter/ customer will be disappointed and I sure some of the players will be as well. The back four up until last Saturday have been pretty poor even with all his tinkering and there is no justification to change a winning side. The new guard came in and did a good job - admittedly against poor opposition - equally Plymouth were almost as poor last week - and the performance was not particularly inspiring - another game we could so easily have dropped points. The manager has a team selection style you dont like,never mind eh? Personally i hope he just keeps managing in the style he has up to now until he moves onto to a bigger club. Hopefully for you but not for me the next manager will fit in with your ideas on team selection. maybe not a fair comparison but arguably more successful managers - Gerry Francis (first time) and Don Megson, Bobby Gould worked with a squad of 17-20 and they were managing in higher divisions than DC. There was no way they could have changed 4 players per match although interestingly BG did bring a non league player from Manor Farm for one match to make up the numbers - successfully
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Post by spiess1 on Oct 10, 2017 12:06:48 GMT
Am I allowed to say Living In The Past? - Or is it a song title?
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Post by matealotblue on Oct 10, 2017 12:11:41 GMT
Am I allowed to say Living In The Past? - Or is it a song title? It might take it's Tull on your posting here.
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Post by knowall on Oct 10, 2017 12:14:08 GMT
Am I allowed to say Living In The Past? - Or is it a song title? name a Premiership manager who averages 4 changes per match - are they all living in the past - or singing a song?
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Post by matealotblue on Oct 10, 2017 12:19:36 GMT
Am I allowed to say Living In The Past? - Or is it a song title? name a Premiership manager who averages 4 changes per match - are they all living in the past - or singing a song? Surely they'd be Thick As A Brick to make that many changes?🙄
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Post by peterparker on Oct 10, 2017 12:27:27 GMT
How Many Line-Up Changes Did Each Premier League Club Make During 2016/17?
6th Jun 2017 by TSZ
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We’ve looked at every Premier League line-up in 2016/17 to see how often each club made changes to their starting eleven. Here are the results:
•Manchester United made the most changes in the Premier League (120), just ahead of their cross-town rivals, Manchester City (115). They are the only clubs to have made over 100 changes during the course of the season and both averaged over three changes per Premier League match. •West Brom had the most settled line-up over the course of the season, with Tony Pulis making just 49 alterations to his starting eleven. Chelsea (53), Burnley (54) and Liverpool (54) were not far behind. •The average number of changes made amongst all Premier League teams was 76 (2 changes per game). •The average number of changes made amongst teams who played in either the Champions League or Europa League (not including West Ham who did not reach the group stage) was 93 (2.4 changes per game). •It should be noted that Chelsea made 15 line-up changes in their last two matches (after they secured the title). Therefore, their total does not accurately reflect how settled their line-up was through the majority of the season. •Antonio Conte did not make more than two changes to Chelsea’s starting eleven until their 33rd Premier League match, and at one point he fielded the same line-up for five consecutive matches.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 10, 2017 12:44:57 GMT
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Post by spiess1 on Oct 10, 2017 12:48:04 GMT
Living in the past, knowall. Premiership,nah. The English Premier League.
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Post by spiess1 on Oct 10, 2017 12:51:46 GMT
Oi Fargas, you're not trying to tell us that the teams which made the most changes in the EPL are the top two, are you?
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