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Post by darkbluegas on Oct 15, 2017 8:02:08 GMT
If Nicholls needs the confidence that comes with scoring goals put him in the development side and see if he can do it against lesser opposition.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 8:59:55 GMT
And back to the original topic, persist with Nicholls a little longer, and see what he comes up with. Otoh am excited to see what Telford can give us. Why persist with a player who hasn't scored over one who has? Purely cos he's actually ours and we spunked 250k on the f**ker!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 12:40:09 GMT
Agree re: Telford Gaffers had been booked and was high on the refs radar - safe decision Gaffney is subbed every game after 60 mins today's booking was irrelevant, although we played with 10 men anyway once Moore came on, well 9 actually as Nichols did zlich after the first 10 mins. I don't think gaffney has the fitness to do a full 90 minutes. If you watch him his legs seem to get heavy just after half time and his running becomes more and more laboured
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Post by baggins on Oct 15, 2017 12:44:28 GMT
Gaffney is subbed every game after 60 mins today's booking was irrelevant, although we played with 10 men anyway once Moore came on, well 9 actually as Nichols did zlich after the first 10 mins. I don't think gaffney has the fitness to do a full 90 minutes. If you watch him his legs seem to get heavy just after half time and his running becomes more and more laboured Still managed to hold the long ball forward up, lay off passes and run for every ball that came near him. As soon as he went off we had no outlet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 12:45:15 GMT
Yeah I agree he looks solid when we haven't got the ball but with it he looks shakey very much like Sweeney has this season. I haven't been on here much tonight because I tend to stay clear after a defeat but from what I read earlier there's been a fair bit of blame towards Bola for the goal. I didn't see it like that at the time and the highlights don't show that for me either. Tom Broadbent has come a long way in a short space of time and has done really well but today he nearly set a goal up for Oxford in the first half and did set one up in the second half. It's good that we've got four decent center halfs all fighting for two places but frustrating that they all look like they've got a mistake in them every game so far this season bar Mayenase so far ( if I've spelt that right ) in the short time that he's played. Let's also not forget Byron Moore cheaply losing the ball to set up the counter for Oxford. I am not a Moore fan but to blame him for losing a ball on the opposition half as the reason we lost is ridiculous.we had several chances to clear the ball especially Broadbent who should have put it into row zone not a suicide pass to Bola who was out muscled and didn't get back at the player to stop the cross
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 15, 2017 12:47:20 GMT
Let's also not forget Byron Moore cheaply losing the ball to set up the counter for Oxford. I am not a Moore fan but to blame him for losing a ball on the opposition half as the reason we lost is ridiculous.we had several chances to clear the ball especially Broadbent who should have put it into row zone not a suicide pass to Bola who was out muscled and didn't get back at the player to stop the cross You love a twist don't you. Just saying he was also to blame for the goal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 12:53:59 GMT
I don't think gaffney has the fitness to do a full 90 minutes. If you watch him his legs seem to get heavy just after half time and his running becomes more and more laboured Still managed to hold the long ball forward up, lay off passes and run for every ball that came near him. As soon as he went off we had no outlet. You mean like when Harrison headded a corner clear straight to him and his first touch was so heavy it allowed his marker to dispossess him.he was shot by then either he has an injury a health problem or his training regime is at fault
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 12:56:55 GMT
I am not a Moore fan but to blame him for losing a ball on the opposition half as the reason we lost is ridiculous.we had several chances to clear the ball especially Broadbent who should have put it into row zone not a suicide pass to Bola who was out muscled and didn't get back at the player to stop the cross You love a twist don't you. Just saying he was also to blame for the goal. Not exoneration him but you can say that a lot of goals come from a forward losing possession.but if you have defenders back plus the odd midfielder the fact that a player loses the ball in the opposition half is no reason to blame him for the goal. Defenders are there to cover for these eventualities that is their job
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 15, 2017 13:00:45 GMT
You love a twist don't you. Just saying he was also to blame for the goal. Not exoneration him but you can say that a lot of goals come from a forward losing possession.but if you have defenders back plus the odd midfielder the fact that a player loses the ball in the opposition half is no reason to blame him for the goal. Defenders are there to cover for these eventualities that is their job I agree. That would be like blaming Lee Brown for the fact that Nichols can't score! Broadbent was at fault for the goal. He didn't deal well with poor pass from Bola. Should have stuck it in the stand but tried a little too hard to do more. I thought both players played ok though and I don't think TB deserves a hard time over it.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 15, 2017 13:01:06 GMT
Still managed to hold the long ball forward up, lay off passes and run for every ball that came near him. As soon as he went off we had no outlet. You mean like when Harrison headded a corner clear straight to him and his first touch was so heavy it allowed his marker to dispossess him.he was shot by then either he has an injury a health problem or his training regime is at fault So you think the useless Moore was a better option? TBH if a player can't last 90 mins after a full week without a game then you have to question what he's been doing all week! I still can't understand why Locks didn't win the ball, or take out the player on the edge of the box before they scored, Sweeney would have done in similar circs, as that's two consecutive games his poor judgement has cost us goals.
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Post by knowall on Oct 15, 2017 13:05:39 GMT
Totally agree. I know you could possibly point at a water poor return ball with Bola that lead to the goal but I thought he did really well. Be disappointed to see him dropped after today. TB also sold Slocombe short with a back pass in the first half that nearly cost us. Last week he gave the ball away in a dangerous poition with the game at 0-0, but he got away with it. I like him, but think he's likely to make one or two very poor desicions with the ball during a game.We have eleven like him on the pitch every game at the moment
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 13:08:16 GMT
You mean like when Harrison headded a corner clear straight to him and his first touch was so heavy it allowed his marker to dispossess him.he was shot by then either he has an injury a health problem or his training regime is at fault So you think the useless Moore was a better option? TBH if a player can't last 90 mins after a full week without a game then you have to question what he's been doing all week! I still can't understand why Locks didn't win the ball, or take out the player on the edge of the box before they scored, Sweeney would have done in similar circs, as that's two consecutive games his poor judgement has cost us goals. Nowhere have I said that Moore was a better option just stating gaffney was shot.as for the goal firstly we don't know what sweeney would have done and secondly because Bola was out of position the defence was disorganised and I don't think lockyer could have got to the player in time. The goal was basically down to inexperienced defenders. When you have 3 of your back four with limited experience you are in danger of the sort of mistake that happened yesterday. You have to ask if Brown had been in the position that Bola was caught in would he have done something different we don't know we can only durmise
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Post by baggins on Oct 15, 2017 13:09:12 GMT
Still managed to hold the long ball forward up, lay off passes and run for every ball that came near him. As soon as he went off we had no outlet. You mean like when Harrison headded a corner clear straight to him and his first touch was so heavy it allowed his marker to dispossess him.he was shot by then either he has an injury a health problem or his training regime is at fault We see things differently, which is great, I don't agree with you but that's fans and forums for you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 13:13:27 GMT
You mean like when Harrison headded a corner clear straight to him and his first touch was so heavy it allowed his marker to dispossess him.he was shot by then either he has an injury a health problem or his training regime is at fault We see things differently, which is great, I don't agree with you but that's fans and forums for you. Precisely.if I was dc.I would ditch the 3 front men role until bodin is fit and put gaffney and Harrison together tell them not to go too wide and play closer togethere. Then play either Broom or sinclair in bodins place.
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Post by baggins on Oct 15, 2017 13:17:22 GMT
We see things differently, which is great, I don't agree with you but that's fans and forums for you. Precisely.if I was dc.I would ditch the 3 front men role until bodin is fit and put gaffney and Harrison together tell them not to go too wide and play closer togethere. Then play either Broom or sinclair in bodins place. Yea, not sure a 3 man frontline suits us, Gaffers, Ellis up front is much better and pick a midfield that can feed either.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 15, 2017 18:24:46 GMT
So you think the useless Moore was a better option? TBH if a player can't last 90 mins after a full week without a game then you have to question what he's been doing all week! I still can't understand why Locks didn't win the ball, or take out the player on the edge of the box before they scored, Sweeney would have done in similar circs, as that's two consecutive games his poor judgement has cost us goals. Nowhere have I said that Moore was a better option just stating gaffney was shot.as for the goal firstly we don't know what sweeney would have done and secondly because Bola was out of position the defence was disorganised and I don't think lockyer could have got to the player in time. The goal was basically down to inexperienced defenders. When you have 3 of your back four with limited experience you are in danger of the sort of mistake that happened yesterday. You have to ask if Brown had been in the position that Bola was caught in would he have done something different we don't know we can only durmise I feel Brown is a stronger defender, all Oxford's chances came down that wing which is the opposite to what's being happening for most of this season, although Bola's attacking flair is outstanding, did he do a Ronaldo yesterday and fainted one way before pulling the ball back the opposite way late in the second half, Bola and Brown as the two left sided players could be interesting? Locks did get to the player as he put in a tackle which you'd normally expect a defender to win. Anyway back to the OP, how did Nichols not even hit the target from this position?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 15, 2017 20:20:47 GMT
Nowhere have I said that Moore was a better option just stating gaffney was shot.as for the goal firstly we don't know what sweeney would have done and secondly because Bola was out of position the defence was disorganised and I don't think lockyer could have got to the player in time. The goal was basically down to inexperienced defenders. When you have 3 of your back four with limited experience you are in danger of the sort of mistake that happened yesterday. You have to ask if Brown had been in the position that Bola was caught in would he have done something different we don't know we can only durmise Anyway back to the OP, how did Nichols not even hit the target from this position? Because he's sh**?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 15, 2017 20:48:17 GMT
Possibly but surely we watched him before signing him, plus didn't GGMI suggest he'd be DC's best ever signing?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 15:24:38 GMT
Possibly but surely we watched him before signing him, plus didn't GGMI suggest he'd be DC's best ever signing? Because we haven't got a scouting system dc.can only go on players we have played against and if they had a good game against us he tends to sign them.for example blissett and James and perhaps now nicholls.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 16, 2017 15:32:11 GMT
Possibly but surely we watched him before signing him, plus didn't GGMI suggest he'd be DC's best ever signing? Because we haven't got a scouting system dc.can only go on players we have played against and if they had a good game against us he tends to sign them.for example blissett and James and perhaps now nicholls. So how do you explain the Broadbent and Bola signings plus Sweeney, Leadbitter and Gaffney etc before them? DC must be a brave manager if he spends a rumoured £300K on the back of just one or two games against us.
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