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Post by stevek192 on Oct 18, 2017 9:42:43 GMT
I apologise straight away for this report because I am not going to spend long on it because there is little positive I can write other than it was a game that was over long before half time and it can hardly be described as a match as only one team participated in it and it wasn't us. It is difficult to say how good Shrewsbury were - clinical I suppose because they only conjured up 5 shots thankfully but that was more than enough as it was an unfair battle against two or three players and the rest who may as well have been playing Subbuteo for those who can remember what that was.
Slocombe 3.5 Could have made the first goal more difficult and probably should have stopped the second but other than that all he did was take the ball out of the net-nothing more nothing less.
Partington 1.5 Slow from the off and never really recovered. Lockyer 1 Shocking- first step must be to0 take the captaincy off him and get a leader, second step a period on the bench but who do you replace him with? Sweeney 1 A continuation of his form this season. What happened to him in the summer? Bola 3 The best of a poor defensive showing but got no help from those either alongside him or in front of him.
Lines 1.5 A pointless booking which pretty well guaranteed he would be the first substituted as all he did last night was take a couple of lousy corners- when will DC realise that his corners are useless? O. Clarke 1 Another dismal performer - I am not even sure he was out there as our entire midfield was ran through time and time again Sercombe 2 Only got an extra mark because he woke up in the last five minutes and had; I believe; our only shots on target. Stopped inexplicably on their first goal to start the rot. Nichols 1 May as well have been in Peterborough still last night as can't remember one worthwhile contribution.
Gaffney 4 Caught offside a couple of times to bring to an end the few attacking moves we had but can't fault his effort and there were about 8 others who should have been replaced before him. Harrison 6.5 MOM Ran everywhere other than where he should have been but who can blame him as he was the only player who cannot be questioning his contribution last night as he defended better than our defenders and competed more than our midfielders and just didn't receive the service to be an attacker.
Subs: Sinclair 3 Tried hard but even that was not enough when those around him contributed little. Leadbitter 4 Did little wrong, ran the line and put in a few crosses and based on last night will be back at right back on Saturday Telford 2 Wasn't on long and must be getting fed up -perhaps he is suffering from splinters in his backside as he will soon be called the judge!
Crowd 5 For a top of the League side the ground was sparsely populated but they were noisy. As for our supporters well we had been stunned to silence long before the half time whistle blew. Ref 7 OK but really didn't have many decisions to make in a one sided game that only Shrewsbury turned up for. Shrewsbury 8 Well they must have been good to not lose all season but based on last night other than clinical with their chances it is difficult to say because they only managed 5 shots at our goal and 4 of them went in! DC Well its OK because he said afterwards that we can blame him but what for? He didn't have his boots on though I suppose we could query why he dropped Broadbent after his only mistake on the weekend and replaced him with Sweeney who has hardly covered himself in glory this season or why he continues to play Nicholls other than he has to try to back his decision to waste what is to us a fortune on him. Some will say that at least he sorted it out at half time but that was too little too late and in truth we were no better in the second half and the only reason we didn't concede anymore was that Shrewsbury had done their job first half and strolled around without breaking sweat in the second. We are now paying the cost for a poor summers transfer dealings because we have no real competition for places and our only real hope is that we can continue to win the odd game and stay around the mid table hopefully to sign three or four quality players in January to give us a chance of pushing on to where we want to be.
I am sorry to be so down beat but that last night was the worst game I have seen since the last away match at York of Mark McGhees reign and to be honest we can hardly be confident of bringing anything back from Rochdale on Saturday.UTG
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 18, 2017 10:09:47 GMT
I apologise straight away for this report because I am not going to spend long on it because there is little positive I can write other than it was a game that was over long before half time and it can hardly be described as a match as only one team participated in it and it wasn't us. It is difficult to say how good Shrewsbury were - clinical I suppose because they only conjured up 5 shots thankfully but that was more than enough as it was an unfair battle against two or three players and the rest who may as well have been playing Subbuteo for those who can remember what that was. Slocombe 3.5 Could have made the first goal more difficult and probably should have stopped the second but other than that all he did was take the ball out of the net-nothing more nothing less. Partington 1.5 Slow from the off and never really recovered. Lockyer 1 Shocking- first step must be to0 take the captaincy off him and get a leader, second step a period on the bench but who do you replace him with? Sweeney 1 A continuation of his form this season. What happened to him in the summer? Bola 3 The best of a poor defensive showing but got no help from those either alongside him or in front of him. Lines 1.5 A pointless booking which pretty well guaranteed he would be the first substituted as all he did last night was take a couple of lousy corners- when will DC realise that his corners are useless? O. Clarke 1 Another dismal performer - I am not even sure he was out there as our entire midfield was ran through time and time again Sercombe 2 Only got an extra mark because he woke up in the last five minutes and had; I believe; our only shots on target. Stopped inexplicably on their first goal to start the rot. Nichols 1 May as well have been in Peterborough still last night as can't remember one worthwhile contribution. Gaffney 4 Caught offside a couple of times to bring to an end the few attacking moves we had but can't fault his effort and there were about 8 others who should have been replaced before him. Harrison 6.5 MOM Ran everywhere other than where he should have been but who can blame him as he was the only player who cannot be questioning his contribution last night as he defended better than our defenders and competed more than our midfielders and just didn't receive the service to be an attacker. Subs: Sinclair 3 Tried hard but even that was not enough when those around him contributed little. Leadbitter 4 Did little wrong, ran the line and put in a few crosses and based on last night will be back at right back on Saturday Telford 2 Wasn't on long and must be getting fed up -perhaps he is suffering from splinters in his backside as he will soon be called the judge! Crowd 5 For a top of the League side the ground was sparsely populated but they were noisy. As for our supporters well we had been stunned to silence long before the half time whistle blew. Ref 7 OK but really didn't have many decisions to make in a one sided game that only Shrewsbury turned up for. Shrewsbury 8 Well they must have been good to not lose all season but based on last night other than clinical with their chances it is difficult to say because they only managed 5 shots at our goal and 4 of them went in! DC Well its OK because he said afterwards that we can blame him but what for? He didn't have his boots on though I suppose we could query why he dropped Broadbent after his only mistake on the weekend and replaced him with Sweeney who has hardly covered himself in glory this season or why he continues to play Nicholls other than he has to try to back his decision to waste what is to us a fortune on him. Some will say that at least he sorted it out at half time but that was too little too late and in truth we were no better in the second half and the only reason we didn't concede anymore was that Shrewsbury had done their job first half and strolled around without breaking sweat in the second. We are now paying the cost for a poor summers transfer dealings because we have no real competition for places and our only real hope is that we can continue to win the odd game and stay around the mid table hopefully to sign three or four quality players in January to give us a chance of pushing on to where we want to be. I am sorry to be so down beat but that last night was the worst game I have seen since the last away match at York of Mark McGhees reign and to be honest we can hardly be confident of bringing anything back from Rochdale on Saturday.UTG Surprised you gave lines 1.5 i would have put a negative sign in front of that score...... and still NO leader on the pitch
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Post by tommym9 on Oct 18, 2017 10:33:52 GMT
Thanks for the write up Steve. I think 3.5 is a bit harsh on Slocombe as he couldn't do anything for any of the goals bar the 2nd where I think he could have done better.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Oct 18, 2017 11:06:11 GMT
Good honest report Steve ~ agree with your thoughts at the end.
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Post by barumgas on Oct 18, 2017 12:15:25 GMT
Good report Steve. I felt sorry for all those fans who travelled to the match Does anyone really believe that we will splash the cash in January? I don't think we will
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Oct 18, 2017 12:23:52 GMT
Thanks Steve for taking the trouble to write this. An absolutely diabolical display where the only player that put in a professional and competent performance was Ellis. The only thing I disagree with is your mark for Bola which in my opinion is 3 marks too high! If there was anyone who epitomised this mistake laden can't be arsed showing then it was him.
All the best.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 18, 2017 12:29:52 GMT
Re: Gaffney is charging around aimlessly worth of 3.5, I thought he was equally as poor as the others, Ellis the only one coming out of the game with any credit. It's that odd two season running we've been poor at Shrewsbury, do they put something in our players pre-match drinks/food which kills their energy levels!!
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Post by Thatslife on Oct 18, 2017 12:51:10 GMT
I apologise straight away for this report because I am not going to spend long on it because there is little positive I can write other than it was a game that was over long before half time and it can hardly be described as a match as only one team participated in it and it wasn't us. It is difficult to say how good Shrewsbury were - clinical I suppose because they only conjured up 5 shots thankfully but that was more than enough as it was an unfair battle against two or three players and the rest who may as well have been playing Subbuteo for those who can remember what that was. Slocombe 3.5 Could have made the first goal more difficult and probably should have stopped the second but other than that all he did was take the ball out of the net-nothing more nothing less. Partington 1.5 Slow from the off and never really recovered. Lockyer 1 Shocking- first step must be to0 take the captaincy off him and get a leader, second step a period on the bench but who do you replace him with? Sweeney 1 A continuation of his form this season. What happened to him in the summer? Bola 3 The best of a poor defensive showing but got no help from those either alongside him or in front of him. Lines 1.5 A pointless booking which pretty well guaranteed he would be the first substituted as all he did last night was take a couple of lousy corners- when will DC realise that his corners are useless? O. Clarke 1 Another dismal performer - I am not even sure he was out there as our entire midfield was ran through time and time again Sercombe 2 Only got an extra mark because he woke up in the last five minutes and had; I believe; our only shots on target. Stopped inexplicably on their first goal to start the rot. Nichols 1 May as well have been in Peterborough still last night as can't remember one worthwhile contribution. Gaffney 4 Caught offside a couple of times to bring to an end the few attacking moves we had but can't fault his effort and there were about 8 others who should have been replaced before him. Harrison 6.5 MOM Ran everywhere other than where he should have been but who can blame him as he was the only player who cannot be questioning his contribution last night as he defended better than our defenders and competed more than our midfielders and just didn't receive the service to be an attacker. Subs: Sinclair 3 Tried hard but even that was not enough when those around him contributed little. Leadbitter 4 Did little wrong, ran the line and put in a few crosses and based on last night will be back at right back on Saturday Telford 2 Wasn't on long and must be getting fed up -perhaps he is suffering from splinters in his backside as he will soon be called the judge! Crowd 5 For a top of the League side the ground was sparsely populated but they were noisy. As for our supporters well we had been stunned to silence long before the half time whistle blew. Ref 7 OK but really didn't have many decisions to make in a one sided game that only Shrewsbury turned up for. Shrewsbury 8 Well they must have been good to not lose all season but based on last night other than clinical with their chances it is difficult to say because they only managed 5 shots at our goal and 4 of them went in! DC Well its OK because he said afterwards that we can blame him but what for? He didn't have his boots on though I suppose we could query why he dropped Broadbent after his only mistake on the weekend and replaced him with Sweeney who has hardly covered himself in glory this season or why he continues to play Nicholls other than he has to try to back his decision to waste what is to us a fortune on him. Some will say that at least he sorted it out at half time but that was too little too late and in truth we were no better in the second half and the only reason we didn't concede anymore was that Shrewsbury had done their job first half and strolled around without breaking sweat in the second. We are now paying the cost for a poor summers transfer dealings because we have no real competition for places and our only real hope is that we can continue to win the odd game and stay around the mid table hopefully to sign three or four quality players in January to give us a chance of pushing on to where we want to be. I am sorry to be so down beat but that last night was the worst game I have seen since the last away match at York of Mark McGhees reign and to be honest we can hardly be confident of bringing anything back from Rochdale on Saturday.UTG Surprised you gave lines 1.5 i would have put a negative sign in front of that score...... and still NO leader on the pitch What is the logic behind DC substitutions, when being 4-0 down he takes off Gaffers, a striker, and and replaces him with another fullback ?
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Post by knowall on Oct 18, 2017 12:58:51 GMT
I was not there last night but usually, agree with most of Steve'summary. Last Saturday Lines played at the back of midfield and Clarke more forward which I thought was back to front - why? because Clarke is the better tackler and lines the more creative - I blamed Saturday's result on that simple fact. Can someone tell me if last night's lineup was the same or different?
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Post by baggins on Oct 18, 2017 12:59:46 GMT
Surprised you gave lines 1.5 i would have put a negative sign in front of that score...... and still NO leader on the pitch What is the logic behind DC substitutions, when being 4-0 down he takes off Gaffers, a striker, and and replaces him with another fullback ? Never understood the Gaffney substitutions. Did it against Oxford and that left us with nothing up front whatsoever.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 18, 2017 13:23:43 GMT
What is the logic behind DC substitutions, when being 4-0 down he takes off Gaffers, a striker, and and replaces him with another fullback ? Never understood the Gaffney substitutions. Did it against Oxford and that left us with nothing up front whatsoever. Against Oxford I agree a bit strange yes, but last night no it was understandable damage limitation I'm afraid. Even DC knew the game was gone, if he didn't do that I reckon it might well have been 6 or 7? Very un-DC like but he definitely threw in the towel last night before we got even more humiliated.
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Post by Thatslife on Oct 18, 2017 13:43:56 GMT
Never understood the Gaffney substitutions. Did it against Oxford and that left us with nothing up front whatsoever. Against Oxford I agree a bit strange yes, but last night no it was understandable damage limitation I'm afraid. Even DC knew the game was gone, if he didn't do that I reckon it might well have been 6 or 7? Very un-DC like but he definitely threw in the towel last night before we got even more humiliated. Damage limitation? Surely the damage, at 4-0, was already done, the only way to limit the damage was for us to score, keeping a clean sheet in the second half did us no good what so ever.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Oct 18, 2017 13:52:35 GMT
Against Oxford I agree a bit strange yes, but last night no it was understandable damage limitation I'm afraid. Even DC knew the game was gone, if he didn't do that I reckon it might well have been 6 or 7? Very un-DC like but he definitely threw in the towel last night before we got even more humiliated. Damage limitation? Surely the damage, at 4-0, was already done, the only way to limit the damage was for us to score, keeping a clean sheet in the second half did us no good what so ever. 4-0 is bad enough but the way it was going unless we tried to improve defences we would most likely have been hit for 8. Take it from us that were there that there was little chance of us scoring 1 let alone 4 whether or not Gaffers was on the pitch.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 18, 2017 14:05:35 GMT
Damage limitation? Surely the damage, at 4-0, was already done, the only way to limit the damage was for us to score, keeping a clean sheet in the second half did us no good what so ever. 4-0 is bad enough but the way it was going unless we tried to improve defences we would most likely have been hit for 8. Take it from us that were there that there was little chance of us scoring 1 let alone 4 whether or not Gaffers was on the pitch. Exactly my point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 16:08:16 GMT
What is the logic behind DC substitutions, when being 4-0 down he takes off Gaffers, a striker, and and replaces him with another fullback ? Never understood the Gaffney substitutions. Did it against Oxford and that left us with nothing up front whatsoever. I think the problem with gaffney is fitness he seems to run out of energy after about an hour.either he has a health problem or he doesn't train hard enough or he wastes too much energy in the first half
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Post by cookinongas on Oct 18, 2017 16:26:54 GMT
The only reason it stayed at 4-0 is as Steve has said, and it happens to most teams who are 3 or 4 goals up at half time. Job's done and the foot comes off the gas (excuse the pun). If it had been say 1-0 then it could have been a cricket score
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Post by faggotygas on Oct 18, 2017 17:44:40 GMT
Surprised you gave lines 1.5 i would have put a negative sign in front of that score...... and still NO leader on the pitch What is the logic behind DC substitutions, when being 4-0 down he takes off Gaffers, a striker, and and replaces him with another fullback ? Ledbitter played on the wing
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 18, 2017 20:34:48 GMT
The only reason it stayed at 4-0 is as Steve has said, and it happens to most teams who are 3 or 4 goals up at half time. Job's done and the foot comes off the gas (excuse the pun). If it had been say 1-0 then it could have been a cricket score No it wouldn't as they would have got to 4-0 and then took their foot off the gas..
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Post by bluestone on Oct 18, 2017 21:09:56 GMT
Well I can't really argue with that report Steve.
I think DC subbed off Lines because he pulled out of a tackle that led to us conceding a goal. Not really sure why he has been playing in front of the back 4 anyway as defending is hardly one of his strengths.
Totally agree re: Ollie Clarke, I didn't even notice he was on the pitch for the first half an hour!
I know DC said he would take the blame for that pi$$ poor performance but to be honest I think he is just trying to protect his players from criticism which is weird because he always makes a thing of saying he tells it like it is / won't paper over the cracks etc. The reality is that the team he selected was pretty much the same as the one that played on Saturday and should not have capitulated in such a spectacular fashion.
The pressure is now well and truly on us for the next game, if we don't get something out of it then we will have lost 3 in a row which could be the start of a losing streak. Let's hope the boys bounce back.
As much as we have been inconsistent so far this season I don't believe we are as bad a team as that performance would suggest.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Oct 18, 2017 22:33:56 GMT
Does anyone really believe that we will splash the cash in January? I don't think we will Nope. I’d be shocked if we pay a fee or bring a high earner in during the Jan window.
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