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Post by stevek192 on Nov 1, 2017 10:46:53 GMT
Well I went but wished I hadn't. Not because of the competition but because I saw
One team that was a delight to watch and one team that was boring and predictable. I will leave you to work out which team was us but come the end I was embarrassed by the total lack of quality on show.
I just cannot work out why DC bothered to put a strong team out against Wycombe and then put that team out last night. Sinclair in midfield with another defensive youngster and two useless wingers gave us no chance whatsoever whoever we were playing. I would go as far as to say that most if not all of the National League teams would have beaten us- we really were that bad but what you could tell was that it was a DC side letting the opposition have the ball at the back exactly the same as Saturday but the big difference being that West ham were a lot better with the ball than MK Dons There was no creativity whatsoever in our side and the only players who came out with any credit were the youngsters who tried hard,possibly Nicholls and that was about it.
The result and performance on Friday night will for me give the final answer as to whether DC was right to put out such a weak side but I am not confident that DC will improve on his dismal record in the FA Cup.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 1, 2017 10:52:04 GMT
Agree with everything you say Steve but Sweeney was dreadful, i don't know whats got into him, he even made Burn look good
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Post by spiess1 on Nov 1, 2017 10:58:16 GMT
Like many fans (ISTM), I feel DC only bothers in this competition against League opposition.
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 1, 2017 10:58:51 GMT
Agreed. Nicholls and maybe Leadbitter were the only player that showed any quality. The rest were woeful.
The defence was a shambles. It's frightening to see how poor Sweeney is playing these days, Burn will never make it as a pro and Bola is completely out of form.
The midfield were hopeless. Not one of them could pass 5 yards and both Sinclair and Russe only wanted to go backwards when in possession. Broom and Moore were also poor which meant we ended up lumping long balls forward towards 2 tiny lightweight strikers.
Telford was a bit disappointing, Nicholls faired slightly better but they were feeding on scraps. The balls played up were appalling.
Based on that we have very little quality outside our first choice 11 so we better hope we don't pick up too many injuries.
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Post by rambo on Nov 1, 2017 11:08:29 GMT
Lol. Hilarious seeing people actually upset with a performance in this shambles of a competition.
It was a mixture of experience for the younger players and a fitness test for others.
None of these guys have played toget her before. Burn + sweeney, Sinclair + Russe, Telford + Nichols all new partnerships.
They're not all going to be thrown into a league game at once. I'm sure individually they would mostly do OK but not when all thrown together.
There's no need to review last night's game, you may as well turn up to a training session and slate their effort there as it's basically the same thing.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 1, 2017 11:12:40 GMT
Agree with everything you say Steve but Sweeney was dreadful, i don't know whats got into him, he even made Burn look good Maybe Sweeney needs a Lumley.
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 1, 2017 11:25:16 GMT
Lol. Hilarious seeing people actually upset with a performance in this shambles of a competition. It was a mixture of experience for the younger players and a fitness test for others. None of these guys have played toget her before. Burn + sweeney, Sinclair + Russe, Telford + Nichols all new partnerships. They're not all going to be thrown into a league game at once. I'm sure individually they would mostly do OK but not when all thrown together. There's no need to review last night's game, you may as well turn up to a training session and slate their effort there as it's basically the same thing. Disagree. I wasn't fussed about the result but the lack of quality was worrying. It doesn't matter who you're playing if you can't defend, pass 5 yards and just hack it anywhere every time you get the ball. That's just not good enough. I don't care whether that's in training, the Checkatrade or a play off final. Leadbitter and Nicholls did okay but I was especially disappointed in first team squad members Sweeney, Bola, Sinclair, Moore and Broom. Sweeney in particular was shocking! I'll let Telford off because the balls up to him were appalling.
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Post by mehewmagic on Nov 1, 2017 11:25:50 GMT
I didn't go or listen to commentary but the preview did say hammers u23's are a tight knit team, playing together regularly and have been expensively put together to provide the hammers with relatively cheap future talent.
Most of what is in the para about is the opposite of the team we put out.
Anyone member brfc Vs bath city in FA Trophy 'shocker'? A perfect example of a well drilled team beating a mish mash team of people needing game time etc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 11:33:10 GMT
Well I went but wished I hadn't. Not because of the competition but because I saw One team that was a delight to watch and one team that was boring and predictable. I will leave you to work out which team was us but come the end I was embarrassed by the total lack of quality on show. I just cannot work out why DC bothered to put a strong team out against Wycombe and then put that team out last night. Sinclair in midfield with another defensive youngster and two useless wingers gave us no chance whatsoever whoever we were playing. I would go as far as to say that most if not all of the National League teams would have beaten us- we really were that bad but what you could tell was that it was a DC side letting the opposition have the ball at the back exactly the same as Saturday but the big difference being that West ham were a lot better with the ball than MK Dons There was no creativity whatsoever in our side and the only players who came out with any credit were the youngsters who tried hard,possibly Nicholls and that was about it. The result and performance on Friday night will for me give the final answer as to whether DC was right to put out such a weak side but I am not confident that DC will improve on his dismal record in the FA Cup. Very few people, including I suspect the management and players gave two hoots about the result last night. I suspect the resentment at having to turn up and play such a ridiculous match was reflected in the performance. Judging from the comments, it was. Let's move on and concentrate on an actual game of football in the FA Cup on Friday.
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 1, 2017 11:41:08 GMT
Sorry but if the players didn't give two hoots then they deserve to have their contracts ripped up.
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Post by knowall on Nov 1, 2017 11:41:18 GMT
Disappointed Stevek192 that you have not taken the opportunity to assess a group of youngsters who could well be the future of our Club. I do not support the current format of this competition but turned up to view the array of very expensive talent on show for West Ham. Some of their youngsters are valued more than our Football Club is worth!(Samuelson, Martinez, Diangana, and Hector-Ingram for instance) Our players should be assessed taking account of the considerable talent they faced which was probably better than any team in our division. And I thought we gave a good account in the first half until the Tom Daley like dive so impressed the referee into giving a penalty. I thought Russe showed promise, Dunnwald - why wasn't he on at the beginning? because before he came on we had no height in the front line and looked good enough to step up to the first team. Broom was lively, as was Sinclair, but some Moore, Leadbitter, Burn particularly showed how poor some of our first team squad really is.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 11:43:23 GMT
I just cannot work out why DC bothered to put a strong team out against Wycombe and then put that team out last night. Because, like all those who stayed at home, he detests the fact that we have to play against U21 sides, so treats those games with the respect they deserve - zilch!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 1, 2017 11:45:43 GMT
Well I went but wished I hadn't. Not because of the competition but because I saw One team that was a delight to watch and one team that was boring and predictable. I will leave you to work out which team was us but come the end I was embarrassed by the total lack of quality on show. I just cannot work out why DC bothered to put a strong team out against Wycombe and then put that team out last night. Sinclair in midfield with another defensive youngster and two useless wingers gave us no chance whatsoever whoever we were playing. I would go as far as to say that most if not all of the National League teams would have beaten us- we really were that bad but what you could tell was that it was a DC side letting the opposition have the ball at the back exactly the same as Saturday but the big difference being that West ham were a lot better with the ball than MK Dons There was no creativity whatsoever in our side and the only players who came out with any credit were the youngsters who tried hard,possibly Nicholls and that was about it. The result and performance on Friday night will for me give the final answer as to whether DC was right to put out such a weak side but I am not confident that DC will improve on his dismal record in the FA Cup. Very few people, including I suspect the management and players gave two hoots about the result last night. I suspect the resentment at having to turn up and play such a ridiculous match was reflected in the performance. Judging from the comments, it was. Let's move on and concentrate on an actual game of football in the FA Cup on Friday.
Another Mickey Mouse competition until the 3rd round, hope he puts the reserves out
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 1, 2017 11:47:30 GMT
Well I went but wished I hadn't. Not because of the competition but because I saw One team that was a delight to watch and one team that was boring and predictable. I will leave you to work out which team was us but come the end I was embarrassed by the total lack of quality on show. I just cannot work out why DC bothered to put a strong team out against Wycombe and then put that team out last night. Sinclair in midfield with another defensive youngster and two useless wingers gave us no chance whatsoever whoever we were playing. I would go as far as to say that most if not all of the National League teams would have beaten us- we really were that bad but what you could tell was that it was a DC side letting the opposition have the ball at the back exactly the same as Saturday but the big difference being that West ham were a lot better with the ball than MK Dons There was no creativity whatsoever in our side and the only players who came out with any credit were the youngsters who tried hard,possibly Nicholls and that was about it. The result and performance on Friday night will for me give the final answer as to whether DC was right to put out such a weak side but I am not confident that DC will improve on his dismal record in the FA Cup. Very few people, including I suspect the management and players gave two hoots about the result last night. I suspect the resentment at having to turn up and play such a ridiculous match was reflected in the performance. Judging from the comments, it was. Let's move on and concentrate on an actual game of football in the FA Cup on Friday. In that case why put out a strong side v Wycombe, I sense a lot of fans went last night assuming we'd put out similar side/give a similar performance. Sweeney seems a different player to the one we had last season, it's all a bit odd!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 1, 2017 11:48:35 GMT
I just cannot work out why DC bothered to put a strong team out against Wycombe and then put that team out last night. Because, like all those who stayed at home, he detests the fact that we have to play against U21 sides, so treats those games with the respect they deserve - zilch! So why did he not sub 3 first team players in the first minute ? now that would have been funny No DC took that game serious because there is BIG money involved and we all know money is what makes football important, not the joy of football
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 11:54:57 GMT
A dreadful and unfair report imo,with us playing friday night the selection was always going to be difficult for the manager. Im sure he hoped for a better performance but he was right to make the match a low priority and protect as many 1st choice players as possible from injury. Marcus stewarts post match interview gave a much more balanced view of the game and the difficulties rovers faced against a good young side. Make no mistake some of the players playing last night are close to the exit door but there were encouraging performances from russe,hargreaves and dunwald.
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Post by peterparker on Nov 1, 2017 11:58:03 GMT
Sorry but if the players didn't give two hoots then they deserve to have their contracts ripped up. Do you ever turn up to work some days and think, this is sh** why am I bothering?
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Post by mariobalotelli on Nov 1, 2017 12:55:11 GMT
Isn’t it obvious as to why we played a stronger team against Wycombe than we did a bunch of U23’s?
Usually no problem with your reports but this ones embarrassing considering the competition
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 1, 2017 12:58:15 GMT
Isn’t it obvious as to why we played a stronger team against Wycombe than we did a bunch of U23’s? Usually no problem with your reports but this ones embarrassing considering the competition Why did you read it then ?
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Nov 1, 2017 15:21:43 GMT
I didn't go or listen to commentary but the preview did say hammers u23's are a tight knit team, playing together regularly and have been expensively put together to provide the hammers with relatively cheap future talent. Most of what is in the para about is the opposite of the team we put out. Anyone member brfc Vs bath city in FA Trophy 'shocker'? A perfect example of a well drilled team beating a mish mash team of people needing game time etc.I thought we'd always played strongish teams in both that game and the Chesham and Barrow games. Made it even worse that we lost all of them. www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2014/december/rovers-crash-out-of-fa-trophy/Looking at that team it seems only Lockyer and Mansell were rested.
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