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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 1:19:13 GMT
It wasn't a match report as such Bluebutterfly. Thanks,fair point. Some of those given a chance to impress like burn and moore might be running out of chances and broom will need to pick himself up after a poor showing. Will sweeney still be here after january? Young russe fought hard to make an impact in the 2nd half after the 1st half passed him bye. Ive never seen stuart sinclair play as badly as that and marc bola could do no right but they were all trying their best against some bloody good young players. I just feel your unhappy with the managers methods and style and its infecting your perspective and judgement on this particular match?
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Post by Centenary Gas on Nov 2, 2017 3:18:50 GMT
Very few people, including I suspect the management and players gave two hoots about the result last night. I suspect the resentment at having to turn up and play such a ridiculous match was reflected in the performance. Judging from the comments, it was. Let's move on and concentrate on an actual game of football in the FA Cup on Friday.
Another Mickey Mouse competition until the 3rd round, hope he puts the reserves out At least the FA Cup means something from the third round, even if we get to the final of the trophy it will mean F all.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 2, 2017 6:47:46 GMT
Agree with everything you say Steve but Sweeney was dreadful, i don't know whats got into him, he even made Burn look good Scab. Knob Jockey
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Post by peterparker on Nov 2, 2017 8:03:43 GMT
stolen from the other forum for perspective
just to put tuesday in perspective.
martinez cost Β£2.4m from valencia rice has played 5 premier league matches this season. samuelson has 3 full caps for norway.
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Post by RD on Nov 2, 2017 8:16:11 GMT
stolen from the other forum for perspective just to put tuesday in perspective. martinez cost Β£2.4m from valencia rice has played 5 premier league matches this season. samuelson has 3 full caps for norway. How dare you! Does that mean we need to put the pitch forks away now? DC seemingly treats the U21 teams in the competition with the contempt they deserve. Good on him.
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Post by bumble on Nov 2, 2017 8:46:29 GMT
Mods - can we file this thread under the 'People need to get a grip' category please?
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Post by knowall on Nov 2, 2017 10:21:39 GMT
Disappointed Stevek192 that you have not taken the opportunity to assess a group of youngsters who could well be the future of our Club. I do not support the current format of this competition but turned up to view the array of very expensive talent on show for West Ham. Some of their youngsters are valued more than our Football Club is worth!(Samuelson, Martinez, Diangana, and Hector-Ingram for instance) Our players should be assessed taking account of the considerable talent they faced which was probably better than any team in our division. And I thought we gave a good account in the first half until the Tom Daley like dive so impressed the referee into giving a penalty. I thought Russe showed promise, Dunnwald - why wasn't he on at the beginning? because before he came on we had no height in the front line and looked good enough to step up to the first team. Broom was lively, as was Sinclair, but some Moore, Leadbitter, Burn particularly showed how poor some of our first team squad really is. Oh, and by the way - everyone seems to forget the prize available at the end of this competition - worth having? Whilst we are obliged to take part I would say it is always worth having a go at winning the damn thing. Especially as we are one of the teams that could win it! And I doubt we are likely to win the FA Cup - anyone betting we will?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 2, 2017 10:34:53 GMT
Mods - can we file this thread under the 'People need to get a grip' category please? Or "Gas Works" as it's usually called.
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 2, 2017 11:23:44 GMT
Oh joy.....we can do this all again on Wednesday. Shall we just cut and paste/change the names to save the hassle?π©
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Post by philbemmygas on Nov 2, 2017 12:47:59 GMT
Mods - can we file this thread under the 'People need to get a grip' category please? How very dare you, that would be most threads on this forum
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Post by philbemmygas on Nov 2, 2017 12:49:10 GMT
Oh joy.....we can do this all again on Wednesday. Shall we just cut and paste/change the names to save the hassle?π© But we is against swindle town innit, they will bring about twenty fans maximum. Fecking moonrakers
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 2, 2017 12:54:45 GMT
Oh joy.....we can do this all again on Wednesday. Shall we just cut and paste/change the names to save the hassle?π© I will be there with my friends
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 13:09:14 GMT
Mods - can we file this thread under the 'People need to get a grip' category please? really?
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 2, 2017 13:23:00 GMT
Oh joy.....we can do this all again on Wednesday. Shall we just cut and paste/change the names to save the hassle?π© I will be there with my friends What did I say.....wait until Wednesday....but no you had to go and break cover early. Lots of indiscipline on here.....π
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 2, 2017 13:37:16 GMT
I will be there with my friends What did I say.....wait until Wednesday....but no you had to go and break cover early. Lots of indiscipline on here.....π Story of my life, always come out to early...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 8:06:21 GMT
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Post by peterparker on Nov 3, 2017 8:20:14 GMT
perhaps because Steve said this
I just cannot work out why DC bothered to put a strong team out against Wycombe and then put that team out last night. Sinclair in midfield with another defensive youngster and two useless wingers gave us no chance whatsoever whoever we were playing. I would go as far as to say that most if not all of the National League teams would have beaten us- we really were that bad but what you could tell was that it was a DC side letting the opposition have the ball at the back exactly the same as Saturday but the big difference being that West ham were a lot better with the ball than MK Dons There was no creativity whatsoever in our side and the only players who came out with any credit were the youngsters who tried hard,possibly Nicholls and that was about it.
I called Steve out on the MK Dons game report, but got no response.
People have been Dam moaning we cant defend and when DC set his team up to be more solid, DC gets Dam criticised for that.
As for the lack of creativity. we played two wingers. surely the idea is for the midfield to get the ball and give it to them. People moan we don't play width, we are too narrow, 4-3-3 is sh**. play 4 in midfield with 2 wide men and that's Dam wrong
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 3, 2017 10:09:34 GMT
peterparker, I called it as I saw it. Perhaps you disagree -fair enough. To me you play in a way that takes into consideration but basically play the way YOU want to play especially at home. We lost at Shrewsbury ,no we were hammered at Shrewsbury and we tightened up against Rochdale but in truth there was a wide gaps in the opposition standard and Dale were there for the taking had we attacked them and pressurised up the pitch. The team that played West ham was not "tightening up"- it was GIVING UP. I would love us to play with width but thanks to DC we can't. I will stand by what I said in the summer that DC has left us short of Pace, width and quality and overall we have stagnated due to Dc's transfer dealings- of course he is not going to come out and say that but I will.
Even with two wingers we played with attacking full backs because the wingers were no good and Leadbitter ; whilst playing reasonably; was continually caught too far forward. I will go as far to say that without SOME investment in the team in January DC has given us a squad that will need to play above themselves to finish mid table.
Until we sign 4 quality players - two wingers, a central midfielder and a striker we will not better the present results, We do not have the players to play any formation successfully and we may even need to get another centre half in unless Sweeney makes a sudden return to form. Against West Ham both him and Burn ( who IMO is a non league centre half) were bloody awful as was three of the midfielders. (I leave Russe out of the criticism because he had no chance alongside the lacklustre Sinclair. You say that when you play wingers the midfield job is to get the ball and pass it to the wingers but Sincs is not capable of that as he plays sideways and back.
I stand also by what I said that the team selected on Tuesday would struggle to beat any football league side and also the majority of the National League.
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 3, 2017 10:31:17 GMT
Well I went but wished I hadn't. Not because of the competition but because I saw One team that was a delight to watch and one team that was boring and predictable. I will leave you to work out which team was us but come the end I was embarrassed by the total lack of quality on show. I just cannot work out why DC bothered to put a strong team out against Wycombe and then put that team out last night. Sinclair in midfield with another defensive youngster and two useless wingers gave us no chance whatsoever whoever we were playing. I would go as far as to say that most if not all of the National League teams would have beaten us- we really were that bad but what you could tell was that it was a DC side letting the opposition have the ball at the back exactly the same as Saturday but the big difference being that West ham were a lot better with the ball than MK Dons There was no creativity whatsoever in our side and the only players who came out with any credit were the youngsters who tried hard,possibly Nicholls and that was about it. The result and performance on Friday night will for me give the final answer as to whether DC was right to put out such a weak side but I am not confident that DC will improve on his dismal record in the FA Cup. Such a drama queen.
It was basically a friendly
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 10:58:04 GMT
The team selection tuesday was clearly about protecting players for tonights cup match and beyond. dc still wanted to win and gave fringe and young players a chance to impress which didnt happen mostly against what turned out to be a very good side.
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