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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 2:51:22 GMT
For me, the revelation of that interview was that it was Ellis who recommended Bodin to the club in the first place. If we've run out of ex-Salisbury players to sign, maybe Ellis has a few more former Wales u21 contacts to use. Lee mansell also knew bodin from their torquay days but it was dc who had to make the decision to risk a part of his budget on a player who had done very little in his career and was only recently recovered from a serious injury. But if it suits your agenda by all means carry on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 2:55:45 GMT
We must be getting at least two in before Blackpool game? Nearly every club in league one has done business already, Surely we can’t leave it too late again making out we’re being all shrewd then end up with a panic buy! How much was Johnny burns? Darren mcanthony said it was £125k
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Post by garystash on Jan 5, 2018 6:36:59 GMT
I have a feeling - based on nothing more than Hamer's manner when he talks about the fee - that we got more than most rumours are suggesting for Billy.
Would be nice if it was over 500K.
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Post by gasify on Jan 5, 2018 6:43:45 GMT
I have a feeling - based on nothing more than Hamer's manner when he talks about the fee - that we got more than most rumours are suggesting for Billy. Would be nice if it was over 500K. I get that feeling to. Based on nothing more than hope and the fact he said we got more than was offered in the summer (£500k offered?).
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 5, 2018 8:41:34 GMT
We must be getting at least two in before Blackpool game? Nearly every club in league one has done business already, Surely we can’t leave it too late again making out we’re being all shrewd then end up with a panic buy! How much was Johnny burns? Darren mcanthony said it was £125k When did he say that? I can't believe we'd pay that much and then just let him leave for a Conference North side.
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Post by garystash on Jan 5, 2018 8:47:09 GMT
Darren mcanthony said it was £125k When did he say that? I can't believe we'd pay that much and then just let him leave for a Conference North side. Who's Darren MacAnthony? If @bluebutterfly means Darragh MacAnthony of Posh, what has JB's fee to do with him? We got Burn from Middlesbrough - and the fee was reported to be around 80k as I recall.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 5, 2018 8:49:09 GMT
Lighten up people. Bluebutterfly was clearly taking the water!
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Post by garystash on Jan 5, 2018 8:50:26 GMT
Lighten up people. Bluebutterfly was clearly taking the water! Whoops - didn't see that :-)
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Post by knowall on Jan 5, 2018 9:15:56 GMT
BB has made a point about playing in the Championship and had we been in the top 6 and looking likely to go up he probably would have stayed, until the summer at least. Our better players know now that we are a long way off that and if they want that opportunity and the bigger wages then they will move clubs, that I am afraid is a fact of life as these days there is not much loyalty in football. Theres no fan loyalty to players either though is there? Lots of players at the club now who played big parts in 2 promotions and a great league 1 season have been hammered relentlessly this season. Lockyer,brown,sinclair,lines and leadbitter all getting stick,hardly anyone says "their out of form" at the moment. Players have changed and fans have changed. well said - too many on here with short memories
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 5, 2018 9:53:06 GMT
We have to remember where we have come from and what these players have done, under the excellent guidance of Clarke and his team, to make themselves League 1 players. I am particularly proud of the following 10 players and am delighted that the club have chosen to back them. I still think there are gems to be found in non-league that can be real assets at this level.
Still here from relegation to conference 2013/14 Lee Brown Tom Lockyer Ollie Clarke Ellis Harrison
Signed from a non-league club immediately before or during the Conference season 2014/15 Daniel Leadbitter Stuart Sinclair
Signed from a non-league club since we regained our league status: James Clarke Tom Broadbent Joe Partington Rollin Menayese
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Post by markczgas on Jan 5, 2018 10:00:07 GMT
I have a feeling - based on nothing more than Hamer's manner when he talks about the fee - that we got more than most rumours are suggesting for Billy. Would be nice if it was over 500K. Well let's deal with feelings shall we - we can also call it fake news
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Post by markczgas on Jan 5, 2018 10:08:48 GMT
We have to remember where we have come from and what these players have done, under the excellent guidance of Clarke and his team, to make themselves League 1 players. I am particularly proud of the following 10 players and am delighted that the club have chosen to back them. I still think there are gems to be found in non-league that can be real assets at this level. Still here from relegation to conference 2013/14 Lee Brown Tom Lockyer Ollie Clarke Ellis Harrison Signed from a non-league club immediately before or during the Conference season 2014/15 Daniel Leadbitter Stuart Sinclair Signed from a non-league club since we regained our league status: James Clarke Tom Broadbent Joe Partington Rollin Menayese I think everyone's got a fair idea about this. It's about getting the MAXIMUM value for players when we have to sell them. Taylor's 300 K deal was unfortunate but a Sh*t outcome for us. Now Bodin has gone at the start of the window (??) - for around 400 - 500 K - why no bidding war ?? I would like to think most Rovers fans would think he's worth twice that ! maybe I'm wrong. We all know cash is tight so why didn't the club wait a few weeks to get more ? Hamer admitted 3 clubs had bid/enquired about him - so I'm very surprised he left on the second day of the window, aren't you ? My conclusion, is that DC was going to get pretty much sod all, but now with the quick sale of Bodin , he's going to get some of it - pretty depressing really - same old Rovers !
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Post by chilly1883 on Jan 5, 2018 23:55:43 GMT
Sorry, can't help it, but I personally don't like listening to Hamer. Sounds a little condescending, did I hear wrong last year? When he said after tying down Taylor, "we don't have to sell our best players anymore". Wow that's changed in a year. We've now sold two of our best players. We don't HAVE to sell. But you can't keep players that want to move on, especially when they have release clauses in their contracts in Taylor's case. Billy wants to play in the Championship and we are nowhere near atm. Lower league clubs will always lose better players to the Championship, not just Rovers. The money and standard of football is too big a draw for them. Financially, we do not need to sell, but what could we do in both cases? It makes sense to cash in now when the player has already decided to leave. As for some posters thinking no initial talks had taken place before this interview, get a grip. We don't need to sale?, where have have you got that theory from?. In my 37 years as a supporter, we have never displayed that vision, and we a still continue to sale any player with talent. I love this club unconditionally, but I'd be lying if I said, I wasn't getting watered off with it being so tin pot.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 6, 2018 0:28:57 GMT
As per usual I watched the interview after reading this thread and I have to say I thought SH came over well and quite assured. Verbally he was fluid and there was little of the usual "ums and aghs" I often hear on other occasions.
Surprised nobody commented on his description of the type of player we are after (listen after 6:00 minutes) as he said we are looking for players who can 'help us next season and in the league above where we are now' rather than just for the rest of this season.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 6, 2018 6:25:32 GMT
We have to remember where we have come from and what these players have done, under the excellent guidance of Clarke and his team, to make themselves League 1 players. I am particularly proud of the following 10 players and am delighted that the club have chosen to back them. I still think there are gems to be found in non-league that can be real assets at this level. Still here from relegation to conference 2013/14 Lee Brown Tom Lockyer Ollie Clarke Ellis Harrison Signed from a non-league club immediately before or during the Conference season 2014/15 Daniel Leadbitter Stuart Sinclair Signed from a non-league club since we regained our league status: James Clarke Tom Broadbent Joe Partington Rollin Menayese I think everyone's got a fair idea about this. It's about getting the MAXIMUM value for players when we have to sell them. Taylor's 300 K deal was unfortunate but a Sh*t outcome for us. Now Bodin has gone at the start of the window (??) - for around 400 - 500 K - why no bidding war ?? I would like to think most Rovers fans would think he's worth twice that ! maybe I'm wrong. We all know cash is tight so why didn't the club wait a few weeks to get more ? Hamer admitted 3 clubs had bid/enquired about him - so I'm very surprised he left on the second day of the window, aren't you ? My conclusion, is that DC was going to get pretty much sod all, but now with the quick sale of Bodin , he's going to get some of it - pretty depressing really - same old Rovers ! Getting maximum value out of players doesn't have to mean what you get from a transfer. We paid chuff all for the snake, got 2 promotions out of him and made a profit on his transfer. I'd say we got very good value out of him. Same goes for Bodin. In fact, I'd say we have had value out of most of our players accept Burn, Blisset and Nichols.
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Post by garystash on Jan 6, 2018 8:07:50 GMT
As per usual I watched the interview after reading this thread and I have to say I thought SH came over well and quite assured. Verbally he was fluid and there was little of the usual "ums and aghs" I often hear on other occasions. Surprised nobody commented on his description of the type of player we are after (listen after 6:00 minutes) as he said we are looking for players who can 'help us next season and in the league above where we are now' rather than just for the rest of this season. Thanks for pointing that out. I did notice at the time but just dismissed it as Hamer guff.
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Jan 6, 2018 8:16:55 GMT
What I reckon is:-
Rovers wanted £1 Million, PNE wanted to pay £500k because BB's contract was out in the summer so they met half way.
The fee isn't going to be disclosed, and that way most people will think that DC has a full budget.
There will be a portion of it that goes towards paying bills and the background evolution.
All Hamer had to say is that funds will be made available for Darrell to invest in his squad, but of course it won't be the full amount as there are fees to pay, and the need to reinvest in the infrastructure to make the club self sufficient.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 6, 2018 8:23:06 GMT
As per usual I watched the interview after reading this thread and I have to say I thought SH came over well and quite assured. Verbally he was fluid and there was little of the usual "ums and aghs" I often hear on other occasions. Surprised nobody commented on his description of the type of player we are after (listen after 6:00 minutes) as he said we are looking for players who can 'help us next season and in the league above where we are now' rather than just for the rest of this season. Thanks for pointing that out. I did notice at the time but just dismissed it as Hamer guff. And it could be, time will tell. The point I was trying to raise is that 'we' are happy to quote SH literally when it suits but ignore or dismiss when he is showing some of the ambition many are asking for. As I said, we'll see but it was a big improvement on last time😀
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Post by peterparker on Jan 6, 2018 8:35:01 GMT
Thanks for pointing that out. I did notice at the time but just dismissed it as Hamer guff. And it could be, time will tell. The point I was trying to raise is that 'we' are happy to quote SH literally when it suits but ignore or dismiss when he is showing some of the ambition many are asking for. As I said, we'll see but it was a big improvement on last time😀 I feel people tend to pick and choose what they want to quote of Hamer. People say they dont beleive him, dont take him serious, but at the same time happen to take his word as truth if it reinforces a negative view of him, the club or the Al Qadis
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 6, 2018 8:49:16 GMT
I think everyone's got a fair idea about this. It's about getting the MAXIMUM value for players when we have to sell them. Taylor's 300 K deal was unfortunate but a Sh*t outcome for us. Now Bodin has gone at the start of the window (??) - for around 400 - 500 K - why no bidding war ?? I would like to think most Rovers fans would think he's worth twice that ! maybe I'm wrong. We all know cash is tight so why didn't the club wait a few weeks to get more ? Hamer admitted 3 clubs had bid/enquired about him - so I'm very surprised he left on the second day of the window, aren't you ? My conclusion, is that DC was going to get pretty much sod all, but now with the quick sale of Bodin , he's going to get some of it - pretty depressing really - same old Rovers ! Getting maximum value out of players doesn't have to mean what you get from a transfer. We paid chuff all for the snake, got 2 promotions out of him and made a profit on his transfer. I'd say we got very good value out of him. Same goes for Bodin. In fact, I'd say we have had value out of most of our players accept Burn, Blisset and Nichols. Without Bliss we might still stuck in the Conference like Tranmere, he wasn't a great signing but not a total disaster. As far as Burn I assumed he was just a cheap signing, the fact he's dropped down to Conference North seems to be support that view.
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