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Post by spiess1 on Jan 24, 2018 22:30:32 GMT
They've left off the motto. "Nay,lad...I can't tell thee the time."
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 24, 2018 22:58:24 GMT
Good Post Wareham (be I Hampshire ? be I buggery....... 😀 ) Anyway I digress, yes more than happy with our current status, in fact it's almost like when I first started going in the 60's - Third division, good seasons followed by mediocre ones, score a lot, let in a lot. Loved it all, though I used to end up frustrated at the end of the season, until that great Friday night at Roots Hall. However, 1 times have changed & people are not patient anymore to wait for success - it has to be now, it's almost a cultural thing and younger folk are being brought up with this mindset. 2. Adding that to todays expectation when going to a football game, gone are the days of being crammed in the Tote End, with the beautiful smell of Gas wafting in and the smoke of a lovely Woodbine in your face, people want a nice bogs, good food, a pint (without having to queue) and a decent stadium to watch the game. 3. Football has moved on drastically & as a club we have not. We had a wake up call in 2014 & due to a fine manager (IMO) he has got us back to a respectable position on the field. But unless things start shaping up off the field we could end up in a worse place. I briefly tuned in to the start of the game shown on sky last night - packed stadium, the flags idea was brilliant - I hated all of the 3 mins I watched, but what about the kids & neutrals, where are they going to go in the future? We all would like quality signings to improve the team, but If we can't afford them so be it, I don't get all the negativity towards DC but I can understand the negitivity around the apparent lack of planning around the infrastructure. Keep hold of DC & we can evolve the team but evolution needs to be speeded up off the field, I think DC is eluding to this on various interviews. I am living in hope rather than expectation now, but hey, enjoying the football again now & the effort from the lads UTG Agree 100%. Because people don’t want to wait, we all demand stuff ASAP, we want to go up for a third consecutive year, we want to see lots of signings in the first week of the window and because we have social media people can complain if it doesn’t happen. Much of what we do hasn’t seen us move on and that causes great frustration. And I know that there’s little I can do so stop that feeling of not moving on, so I have to look at the positives. I was thinking exactly the same as you about last night and seeing all those flags. I hate to say it but it looked good until I switched it off. Those flags probably cost more than DCs transfer budget for this window! And like you toddy I live more in hope than expectation but hey that’s what it’s like to be a gashead! UTG!
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 25, 2018 1:06:48 GMT
we are where we should be - division 3 in old money. forget ground etc., it's better players we need to progress
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 25, 2018 1:07:43 GMT
and by the way- I'm watered
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 25, 2018 1:13:06 GMT
and by the way- I'm watered Pirate ~ I love your posts you so know the players we should sign
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 1:22:48 GMT
Someone once said "The only way to get out of mediocrity is to keep shooting for excellence" Mediocrity is fine for me at the moment but not aiming for more is a dangerous game. How many promotions would you normally demand/expect in say a 5 year period in pro football?
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Post by pirate on Jan 25, 2018 1:30:38 GMT
and by the way- I'm watered Pirate ~ I love your posts you so know the players we should sign Neymar, N'Golo Kante, Sergio Ramos.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 1:34:25 GMT
Someone once said "The only way to get out of mediocrity is to keep shooting for excellence" Mediocrity is fine for me at the moment but not aiming for more is a dangerous game. Winners don’t settle for mediocrity. Aiming high is for aspirational people. We can and must think big again. Why not us? You sound like one of those university graduates suddenly employed as a manager in the real world. all soundbites and bull****. How many promotions do you require in say a 5 year period in pro football to be a success?
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Post by Marshy on Jan 25, 2018 7:30:49 GMT
and by the way- I'm watered How’s your head this morning midsomer?? he he. And on a school night tut tut!
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Post by richhertford on Jan 25, 2018 8:23:21 GMT
Winners don’t settle for mediocrity. Aiming high is for aspirational people. We can and must think big again. Why not us? You sound like one of those university graduates suddenly employed as a manager in the real world. all soundbites and bull****. How many promotions do you require in say a 5 year period in pro football to be a success? Depends if we want to be ground breaking. Bournemouth had a plan. We went backwards while they went forward. Brighton went forward and all those years ago so did Watford. Some clubs aim high. I think it is reasonable to give a great manager (rewarded with a improved contract) a ground breaking target. To get to Championship in 5 years seems reasonable to me. Another promotion was expected this season by many.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 25, 2018 9:09:41 GMT
You sound like one of those university graduates suddenly employed as a manager in the real world. all soundbites and bull****. How many promotions do you require in say a 5 year period in pro football to be a success? Depends if we want to be ground breaking. Bournemouth had a plan. We went backwards while they went forward. Brighton went forward and all those years ago so did Watford. Some clubs aim high. I think it is reasonable to give a great manager (rewarded with a improved contract) a ground breaking target. To get to Championship in 5 years seems reasonable to me. Another promotion was expected this season by many. Bournemouth had Eddie Howe but probably no more of a “plan” than any other club. Yes, agree that to get there in 5 years does seem reasonable and would imagine that is what everyone to do with Rovers wants but to be fair to the owners istr Wael saying that he didn’t have a 5 year plan to get there when he took over. Was clear he wanted to build the club up but avoided talk about plans. And to recruit modestly within our budget would seem to me to be the way to do that. I guess time will tell. UTG!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 25, 2018 12:22:50 GMT
Someone once said "The only way to get out of mediocrity is to keep shooting for excellence" Mediocrity is fine for me at the moment but not aiming for more is a dangerous game. How many promotions would you normally demand/expect in say a 5 year period in pro football?
I'm talking about this season not past seasons. That's the trouble with gashead's always looking back rather than forwards.
As you want to discuss the past though, we could have had another promotion had we shown a bit of ambition last January.
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Post by Fetch on Jan 25, 2018 12:33:56 GMT
Looking at the table we are smack bang in mid table although nearer points wise to the bottom 4 rather than the top 7. Which is probably, table wise, the best it’s been for almost 10 years. But this forum has been so negative this season and I’m sure it is because of the UWE/dround announcements 3 days before the season started and an almost silent owner since. It’s easy to get down about the ground stuff but I’ve tried to look to the team as opposed to the other which I can’t do anything about. In the last few months we’ve beaten Portsmouth, Bradford and Rotherham all after being behind and they are all competing for the play offs. We were unlucky not to get anything at Blackburn. We are well below Wigan at the moment but so are most teams and Shrewsbury have gone a different way to us in having more loans to take them to the top. It’s worked for them this season but it might not next season.I saw us outplay R and B but missed the Pompey match and I’m sure there will be others who’ve seen us more than me but imo DC is absolutely right to be picky over who he signs. The characters in our squad appear to be top class and Mensah joining seems to be a really positive, good addition. So yes I hope we sign a few more but we’re doing ok and with TL and TB signing new contracts we might have learnt some lessons from MT and BB. Not being itk means I’m probably unaware of some stuff others seem to know chapter and verse about but so what I’m never sure if they really do know stuff or are making half a fact or just a rumour go a long long way. Whatever, im looking forward to the rest of the season, perhaps 1/2 more signings but knowing that we will have a goodish squad in place for next season. UTG! Three points from me : 1.) Our away form has been dreadful and we are probably heading for a very low points tally AWAY - so an indication that we are not promotion/play off candidates this season. Only thing that might change that now is strengthening the starting 11 - unlikely to happen !? 2.) I'll be disappointed if we either finish with fewer points or in a lower position than last season. You want to make progress each season unless some kind of disaster hits the team - like 3 players out injured for the season !3.) Very pleased that our home form has picked up (shows that DC is a very good manager), but we've already lost more at home this season than last. Personally, I won't be disappointed if we finish in a lower position than last season, for the following reasons: 1.) The league is much stronger this year. The three teams that went up (Sheff Utd, Bolton, Millwall) have been replaced by arguably financially stronger or equal clubs (Blackburn, Wigan, Rotherham). The teams that went down (Chesterfield, Swindon, Port Vale, Coventry) have been replaced by two much stronger sides and two equal sides (Plymouth, Portsmouth, Doncaster, Blackpool). Not to mention the rest of the mid-table clubs have strengthened too. 2.) We have lost a lot of experience. Macca, Jamma, Mansell, Lawrence - we all underestimated their influence in training and in the dressing room, I think. I would agree that this is something to be disappointed about, however, as it was up to DC to replace that experience. 3.) We have a very young and inexperienced squad. We all know we aren't going up this season, and I don't think many of us thought we would at the start of the season either - So primarily the goal for this season is to develop our young team into established L1 quality players, which I think we have been doing (Harrison, Broadbent, Partington, even Sinclair developing into solid L1 players, with others like Lockyer, Ollie Clarke, Nichols slowly getting there). I will be disappointed if we finish in a lower position next season, however.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 12:47:32 GMT
How many promotions would you normally demand/expect in say a 5 year period in pro football?
I'm talking about this season not past seasons. That's the trouble with gashead's always looking back rather than forwards.
As you want to discuss the past though, we could have had another promotion had we shown a bit of ambition last January.
On the other hand we could spent a £1m last january and missed out on promotion. Whatever we think about it our owners are operating on a set budget which the manager has to work with. By the way why are you looking back to last january? its gone so move on.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 25, 2018 13:02:43 GMT
I'm talking about this season not past seasons. That's the trouble with gashead's always looking back rather than forwards.
As you want to discuss the past though, we could have had another promotion had we shown a bit of ambition last January.
On the other hand we could spent a £1m last january and missed out on promotion. Whatever we think about it our owners are operating on a set budget which the manager has to work with. By the way why are you looking back to last january? its gone so move on.
lol, I only mentioned last Jan because you keep talking about the past. I did explain this in the last post.
They are operating on a measly budget by the sound of things.
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Post by baggins on Jan 25, 2018 13:59:13 GMT
and by the way- I'm watered Absolute disgra....good on you.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 25, 2018 17:00:58 GMT
and by the way- I'm watered How’s your head this morning midsomer?? he he. And on a school night tut tut! it's not good and by the looks a mate has used my phone to send messages and may have posted on here ~ need to check
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