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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 12:26:53 GMT
Is whale the one with no money?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 12:35:20 GMT
Redevelop the stadium in a piecemeal fashion. Is that still just a recommendation by Mr Hamer? How else can you redevelop unless we find a Ground Share option? No,I meant have we ever been told that by wael.If not then all possibilities would still be open. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 9, 2018 12:38:41 GMT
Is whale the one with no money? Yeah. He gets pocket money off Hani. He also wears shorts and a windmill hat. |
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Post by baggins on Feb 9, 2018 13:31:08 GMT
Sometimes to sustain progress you need to hold fire, for a bit. Congratulate ourselves with how far we've come in quite a short space of time, re-group, get things sorted in the background and then go again. Won't happen for a few seasons, maybe more, but who isn't happy being where we are for a while?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 13:48:11 GMT
Sometimes to sustain progress you need to hold fire, for a bit. Congratulate ourselves with how far we've come in quite a short space of time, re-group, get things sorted in the background and then go again. Won't happen for a few seasons, maybe more, but who isn't happy being where we are for a while? Like sex.. I want more but know I won't get it for a couple of years. X |
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Post by baggins on Feb 9, 2018 13:49:20 GMT
Sometimes to sustain progress you need to hold fire, for a bit. Congratulate ourselves with how far we've come in quite a short space of time, re-group, get things sorted in the background and then go again. Won't happen for a few seasons, maybe more, but who isn't happy being where we are for a while? Like sex.. I want more but know I won't get it for a couple of years. X Married huh. |
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 9, 2018 13:54:53 GMT
more evidence pointed towards that we would than if we wouldn’t So we suddenly get 20k gates ahead of clubs like ipswich,reading,cardiff,fulham,hull c and bolton? Reading averaged 8,918 the season before they moved to the Madjeski, a couple of years before that they were only averaging 3,841 at Elm Park, now they average 17,505. Cardiff averaged 6,895 at the turn of the millenium in the 2000/01 season when they were a mid table 3rd Division team like us, now they average 16,564. Fulham averaged 4,191 before Al Fayed's money shot them up the leagues, now they average 19,199. Hull averaged 6,684 the season before they moved into the KC Stadium, now they average 20,761. Bolton averaged 6,030 when they were last a mid table 3rd Division side like us in the 91/92 season, before they moved into the Reebok(As it was called then) now they average 14,934. You can find the stats here www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htmSo judging by that evidence I would say in a brand spanking shiny new stadium, Rovers would get just as big crowds if not bigger than those clubs, yes. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 14:02:08 GMT
So we suddenly get 20k gates ahead of clubs like ipswich,reading,cardiff,fulham,hull c and bolton? Reading averaged 8,918 the season before they moved to the Madjeski, a couple of years before that they were only averaging 3,841 at Elm Park, now they average 17,505. Cardiff averaged 6,895 at the turn of the millenium in the 2000/01 season when they were a mid table 3rd Division team like us, now they average 16,564. Fulham averaged 4,191 before Al Fayed's money shot them up the leagues, now they average 19,199. Hull averaged 6,684 the season before they moved into the KC Stadium, now they average 20,761. Bolton averaged 6,030 when they were last a mid table 3rd Division side like us in the 91/92 season, before they moved into the Reebok(As it was called then) now they average 14,934. You can find the stats here www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htmSo judging by that evidence I would say in a brand spanking shiny new stadium, Rovers would get just as big crowds if not bigger than those clubs, yes. If we get 2 promotions we will be in the premier division. If we are averaging 20k crowds for the first time since the 50"s then great. There are so many factors involved its impossible to predict. All the clubs you mentioned played in the premier league which is a big crowd puller but nobody knows which way our team is going right now. Theres a lot more to getting 20k attendances than having a new stadium imo. |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 9, 2018 14:06:23 GMT
id like to know as well as many of others. Then why keep spreading "fake news" that the owners aren't prepared to invest in the club? its not fake news so I’ll carry on pal |
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Post by baggins on Feb 9, 2018 14:08:34 GMT
Reading averaged 8,918 the season before they moved to the Madjeski, a couple of years before that they were only averaging 3,841 at Elm Park, now they average 17,505. Cardiff averaged 6,895 at the turn of the millenium in the 2000/01 season when they were a mid table 3rd Division team like us, now they average 16,564. Fulham averaged 4,191 before Al Fayed's money shot them up the leagues, now they average 19,199. Hull averaged 6,684 the season before they moved into the KC Stadium, now they average 20,761. Bolton averaged 6,030 when they were last a mid table 3rd Division side like us in the 91/92 season, before they moved into the Reebok(As it was called then) now they average 14,934. You can find the stats here www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htmSo judging by that evidence I would say in a brand spanking shiny new stadium, Rovers would get just as big crowds if not bigger than those clubs, yes. If we get 2 promotions we will be in the premier division. If we are averaging 20k crowds for the first time since the 50"s then great. There are so many factors involved its impossible to predict. All the clubs you mentioned played in the premier league which is a big crowd puller but nobody knows which way our team is going right now. Theres a lot more to getting 20k attendances than having a new stadium imo. Better ground, better facilities equals better crowds equals more money equals more success. It's that simple. |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 9, 2018 14:10:05 GMT
they’ve got money but not for us, perhaps furnish me with your facts of where this so called money has been spent in the past 2 years🤔 apart from the money the accounts say has been spent Perhaps just put that money into perspective 🤔 |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 9, 2018 14:11:30 GMT
id like to know as well as many of others. What do you want them to say, and what can they tell us other than what they have, that they are looking into The Mem redevelopment. and even if they say that someone like you most likely won't believe it anyway.
We have all discussed the options at The Mem site and we all know there are many logistical challenges and isn't as easy as slapping a drawing or building on a blank piece of empty land/paper
Hand on heart can you see the Mem being rebuilt, simple question yes or no? |
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 9, 2018 14:16:14 GMT
Reading averaged 8,918 the season before they moved to the Madjeski, a couple of years before that they were only averaging 3,841 at Elm Park, now they average 17,505. Cardiff averaged 6,895 at the turn of the millenium in the 2000/01 season when they were a mid table 3rd Division team like us, now they average 16,564. Fulham averaged 4,191 before Al Fayed's money shot them up the leagues, now they average 19,199. Hull averaged 6,684 the season before they moved into the KC Stadium, now they average 20,761. Bolton averaged 6,030 when they were last a mid table 3rd Division side like us in the 91/92 season, before they moved into the Reebok(As it was called then) now they average 14,934. You can find the stats here www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htmSo judging by that evidence I would say in a brand spanking shiny new stadium, Rovers would get just as big crowds if not bigger than those clubs, yes. If we get 2 promotions we will be in the premier division. If we are averaging 20k crowds for the first time since the 50"s then great. There are so many factors involved its impossible to predict. All the clubs you mentioned played in the premier league which is a big crowd puller but nobody knows which way our team is going right now. Theres a lot more to getting 20k attendances than having a new stadium imo. Of course success on the field will keep fans coming back. Reading and Hulls crowds as soon as they moved into their new stadiums pretty much doubled straight away. If Rovers moved into a 20k+ stadium I am certain that our crowds would be 17-18k straight away too. Progression on the pitch is a factor to keeping those numbers through the turnstiles, absolutely, but there's no reason why we can't do it, if clubs like Reading and Hull can. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 9, 2018 14:18:19 GMT
Then why keep spreading "fake news" that the owners aren't prepared to invest in the club? its not fake news so I’ll carry on pal But its not News is it just a rumour |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Feb 9, 2018 14:22:12 GMT
Fair point. Not many other businesses where the owners give information away perhaps, but footballs like no other business. We don’t need to know the detail that some are demanding but it would be good to know what their vision is, what their long term plans are for the ground, some kind of time-scale no matter how rough. No need for detail or week to week stuff but just some kind of idea would be good. I’m hopeful for that but not expecting it. UTG! Have they not done that? Colony useable by July 19. Redevelop the stadium in a piecemeal fashion. What else is there? They said they are rebuilding the Mem in a piecemeal fashion did they? Also the Colony will be usable by July 19th 😂 don’t make me laugh I don’t even think a planning application has been put in as of yet, it takes 8 weeks for planning to be accepted so if they put it in say Monday the determination date wouldn’t be until 9 April which would give them 13 weeks to be completed including get it all signed off before it can be handed over , and that’s if they put it in Monday lol 😂 😂 |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 9, 2018 14:30:16 GMT
Have they not done that? Colony useable by July 19. Redevelop the stadium in a piecemeal fashion. What else is there? They said they are rebuilding the Mem in a piecemeal fashion did they? Also the Colony will be usable by July 19th 😂 don’t make me laugh I don’t even think a planning application has been put in as of yet, it takes 8 weeks for planning to be accepted so if they put it in say Monday the determination date wouldn’t be until 9 April which would give them 13 weeks to be completed including get it all signed off before it can be handed over , and that’s if they put it in Monday lol 😂 😂 It's already in. Been in a while. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 14:33:04 GMT
If we get 2 promotions we will be in the premier division. If we are averaging 20k crowds for the first time since the 50"s then great. There are so many factors involved its impossible to predict. All the clubs you mentioned played in the premier league which is a big crowd puller but nobody knows which way our team is going right now. Theres a lot more to getting 20k attendances than having a new stadium imo. Better ground, better facilities equals better crowds equals more money equals more success. It's that simple. Its not though im afraid,i could list plenty of new ground fails and a new ground on its own is not enough. |
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Post by peterparker on Feb 9, 2018 14:33:12 GMT
What do you want them to say, and what can they tell us other than what they have, that they are looking into The Mem redevelopment. and even if they say that someone like you most likely won't believe it anyway.
We have all discussed the options at The Mem site and we all know there are many logistical challenges and isn't as easy as slapping a drawing or building on a blank piece of empty land/paper
Hand on heart can you see the Mem being rebuilt, simple question yes or no? does it matter if I say yes or no?
If I asked you, I assume your answer would be No? if so the point stands that you probably wouldn't believe them if they told you if the re-affirmed there commitment or published a design plan for the redevelopment so what do you want them to say?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 14:35:47 GMT
If we get 2 promotions we will be in the premier division. If we are averaging 20k crowds for the first time since the 50"s then great. There are so many factors involved its impossible to predict. All the clubs you mentioned played in the premier league which is a big crowd puller but nobody knows which way our team is going right now. Theres a lot more to getting 20k attendances than having a new stadium imo. Of course success on the field will keep fans coming back. Reading and Hulls crowds as soon as they moved into their new stadiums pretty much doubled straight away. If Rovers moved into a 20k+ stadium I am certain that our crowds would be 17-18k straight away too. Progression on the pitch is a factor to keeping those numbers through the turnstiles, absolutely, but there's no reason why we can't do it, if clubs like Reading and Hull can. We will just have to agree to disagree on this. No way 17-18k would watch rovers in the current mid table league 1 position imo. |
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 9, 2018 14:54:40 GMT
Fair point. Not many other businesses where the owners give information away perhaps, but footballs like no other business. We don’t need to know the detail that some are demanding but it would be good to know what their vision is, what their long term plans are for the ground, some kind of time-scale no matter how rough. No need for detail or week to week stuff but just some kind of idea would be good. I’m hopeful for that but not expecting it. UTG! Have they not done that? Colony useable by July 19. Redevelop the stadium in a piecemeal fashion. What else is there? Yes I suppose they have in a way but it’s always struck me that these comments were reacting to 20man or someone else asking a question and have been so piecemeal and patchy. I don’t think other businesses would have got away with some statements in reaction to questions passing for some kind of plan or vision for the future. They haven’t been very proactive in presenting a case and a vision for us. Im not unhappy with our “evolution”, the development squad, increase in support staff, the transfer windows, mid -table in League 1 are all things I wouldn’t have dreamed of 3 years ago. I just think some forward thinking in sharing with us the plan B after the UWE went wrong would have been an easy win for them and would have taken us fans with them and would have given them some breathing time. Without that they left space, a vacuum for others to make suppositions and rumours. Could have been avoided imo. UTG! |
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