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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 15:48:09 GMT
One of the reasons Wael also broke the UWE was because he said it would make us nomadic. So anywhere from the bottom of Muller Road to the top of Horfield is out the question. If he thought UWE was out the way then we can discount mangotsfield, Frenchay, Old Market et al. Im sure the city centre sites are more appealing for the transport links and other things nearby. However the Mem is actually just about in the centre of the greater Bristol area. (Whitchurch to patchway ,avonmouth to longwell green.) So in a good place for all people to reach ,just the roads / rail are not too good at the moment.
The city centre isn't actually anywhere near the centre of the city ! Well not at the moment anyway. Though is suspect south Bristol will double in size over the next 30 years.
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Post by tbonegas on Feb 22, 2018 16:10:27 GMT
It wasn't that long ago we were going to be building a new stadium in Avonmouth, that itk poster soon disappeared Jog my memory, who was it?
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Feb 22, 2018 16:50:01 GMT
It wasn't that long ago we were going to be building a new stadium in Avonmouth, that itk poster soon disappeared Jog my memory, who was it? thegasfc
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 22, 2018 19:25:05 GMT
One of the reasons Wael also broke the UWE was because he said it would make us nomadic. So anywhere from the bottom of Muller Road to the top of Horfield is out the question. If he thought UWE was out the way then we can discount mangotsfield, Frenchay, Old Market et al. Im sure the city centre sites are more appealing for the transport links and other things nearby. However the Mem is actually just about in the centre of the greater Bristol area. (Whitchurch to patchway ,avonmouth to longwell green.) So in a good place for all people to reach ,just the roads / rail are not too good at the moment.
The city centre isn't actually anywhere near the centre of the city ! Well not at the moment anyway. Though is suspect south Bristol will double in size over the next 30 years.
So it's a good place to reach if you walk? Not sure how the city centre sites are considered good either as Temple Meads is a mile or more away unless we build nearby and the roads are usually grid locked. Although Shrewsbury show where ever you build a stadium fans will turn up.
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Post by socrates on Feb 23, 2018 0:17:10 GMT
Exactly. Only those with hidden agenda's can be negative about it. However, I give it a week before a fair few forgets whats been said by Wael and they get all impatient again! My only "hidden agenda" is I'd like to see Rovers play in a new stadium with my children, or even grandchildren, before I'm too old to enjoy it, nothing Wael has said in his interview gives me any real hope that will be the case. So Wael has to rush in to it just because your worried you’ll be dead before it gets built ? They’ve been here 2 years and spent the first 18 months of that sorting out the mess that the shambles of a board we had before left them.
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Post by Fat Albert on Feb 23, 2018 7:16:53 GMT
Not sure why people keep suggesting theories on locations for other stadium sites? We have been told the Mem will be the place so in my eyes all that speculation is just setting yourselves up for disappointment. I would be happy if we get plans for a redevelopment. It won’t be perfect but at least it’ll be better than anything we’ve had before.
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Post by spiess1 on Feb 23, 2018 12:27:06 GMT
"...setting yourselves up for disappointment..." Now, Fatal Bert,.... you're talking turkey! People convince themselves that a theory is a fact,... and then get stroppy when their 'theory-turned-fact' doesn't happen. And blame.... the board/DC' selection/ Ellis/team/pasties, etc. Example....many erroneously assumed that "Al Qadi = Man City scenario" and blame HIM (Wael) when THEIR idea doesn't materialise.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Feb 23, 2018 13:01:10 GMT
After listening to Waels interview i thought how lucky we are to have such a smashing guy at the helm and a real footie fan as well!.Right from the start of his tenure he emphasized the need for evolution, not revolution and quick fixes, all the spin about millions of pounds be thrown at the club came from the media, and press and a lot of very exited long suffering supporters, and never from Wael himself. I wish the mods would ban the phrase UWE from this forum because as in the python sketch IT IS DEAD ,EXPIRED,AND DECEASED! It was never a viable proposition as far as Rovers were concerned, and we have to move on.I know its frustrating but its only been a couple of years,no time really, and i believe there is lots of ground work being done to lay the foundations for a great future for the Gas.Think of it like buying an old run down property to do up ,you have to do a lot of prep , make sure the foundations are sure, rub down all the old painted and decaying surfaces , remove that which is not suitable and then,AND ONLY THEN,can you replace ,and put the shiny new paint on, yes you could paint and patch up and it would look OK FOR A WHILE, but very quickly it all falls to pieces!So i am glad and relieved that we have a caring owner who is respectful of our past and very much planning for a great future for Bristol Rovers without destroying the culture of the club! keep up the good work Wael and thank you!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2018 13:08:05 GMT
Im sure the city centre sites are more appealing for the transport links and other things nearby. However the Mem is actually just about in the centre of the greater Bristol area. (Whitchurch to patchway ,avonmouth to longwell green.) So in a good place for all people to reach ,just the roads / rail are not too good at the moment.
The city centre isn't actually anywhere near the centre of the city ! Well not at the moment anyway. Though is suspect south Bristol will double in size over the next 30 years.
So it's a good place to reach if you walk? Not sure how the city centre sites are considered good either as Temple Meads is a mile or more away unless we build nearby and the roads are usually grid locked. Although Shrewsbury show where ever you build a stadium fans will turn up. Well there are those who may walk or cycle to games ,however it was more that the distance from the far points of north/east/south/west is pretty equal. As opposed to say ashton gate which is the otherside of the universe from places like patchway or staple hill for example. Temple meads is right next to old market/st phillips marsh for example ,lots of pedestrian walkways underpasses and river bridges to get to the station within five minutes. The fact is any stadium will have gridlocked roads around it on matchdays. However more buses go through the city centre so more people can get just one bus to get to the stadium rather than several.
It cant be that bad or else why would they want a 12000 arena in that area ? The wanting by the council of that being there is a good precedent to build a large leisure building in the area.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 23, 2018 18:30:35 GMT
After listening to Waels interview i thought how lucky we are to have such a smashing guy at the helm and a real footie fan as well!.Right from the start of his tenure he emphasized the need for evolution, not revolution and quick fixes, all the spin about millions of pounds be thrown at the club came from the media, and press and a lot of very exited long suffering supporters, and never from Wael himself. I wish the mods would ban the phrase UWE from this forum because as in the python sketch IT IS DEAD ,EXPIRED,AND DECEASED! It was never a viable proposition as far as Rovers were concerned, and we have to move on.I know its frustrating but its only been a couple of years,no time really, and i believe there is lots of ground work being done to lay the foundations for a great future for the Gas.Think of it like buying an old run down property to do up ,you have to do a lot of prep , make sure the foundations are sure, rub down all the old painted and decaying surfaces , remove that which is not suitable and then,AND ONLY THEN,can you replace ,and put the shiny new paint on, yes you could paint and patch up and it would look OK FOR A WHILE, but very quickly it all falls to pieces!So i am glad and relieved that we have a caring owner who is respectful of our past and very much planning for a great future for Bristol Rovers without destroying the culture of the club! keep up the good work Wael and thank you! The UWE was viable when Sainsbury's looked like buying the Mem, I also assume for a year plus Wael thought it was viable, so to say it was never viable is nonsense. Just a pity a deal couldn't be agreed between the two parties.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 23, 2018 18:37:38 GMT
So it's a good place to reach if you walk? Not sure how the city centre sites are considered good either as Temple Meads is a mile or more away unless we build nearby and the roads are usually grid locked. Although Shrewsbury show where ever you build a stadium fans will turn up. Well there are those who may walk or cycle to games ,however it was more that the distance from the far points of north/east/south/west is pretty equal. As opposed to say ashton gate which is the otherside of the universe from places like patchway or staple hill for example. Temple meads is right next to old market/st phillips marsh for example ,lots of pedestrian walkways underpasses and river bridges to get to the station within five minutes. The fact is any stadium will have gridlocked roads around it on matchdays. However more buses go through the city centre so more people can get just one bus to get to the stadium rather than several.
It cant be that bad or else why would they want a 12000 arena in that area ? The wanting by the council of that being there is a good precedent to build a large leisure building in the area.
If they do build a stadium near Temple Meads I think I'd revert to watching Rovers on iFollow, as I don't want to spend two hours plus sat on public transport up to twice a week just to watch an home game.
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Post by spiess1 on Feb 23, 2018 18:41:37 GMT
Part-timer.
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Post by socrates on Feb 23, 2018 19:06:12 GMT
After listening to Waels interview i thought how lucky we are to have such a smashing guy at the helm and a real footie fan as well!.Right from the start of his tenure he emphasized the need for evolution, not revolution and quick fixes, all the spin about millions of pounds be thrown at the club came from the media, and press and a lot of very exited long suffering supporters, and never from Wael himself. I wish the mods would ban the phrase UWE from this forum because as in the python sketch IT IS DEAD ,EXPIRED,AND DECEASED! It was never a viable proposition as far as Rovers were concerned, and we have to move on.I know its frustrating but its only been a couple of years,no time really, and i believe there is lots of ground work being done to lay the foundations for a great future for the Gas.Think of it like buying an old run down property to do up ,you have to do a lot of prep , make sure the foundations are sure, rub down all the old painted and decaying surfaces , remove that which is not suitable and then,AND ONLY THEN,can you replace ,and put the shiny new paint on, yes you could paint and patch up and it would look OK FOR A WHILE, but very quickly it all falls to pieces!So i am glad and relieved that we have a caring owner who is respectful of our past and very much planning for a great future for Bristol Rovers without destroying the culture of the club! keep up the good work Wael and thank you! I hope your right and I think your right too. I am worried about the Hani factor in it all though. Are you ?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 23, 2018 20:04:25 GMT
After listening to Waels interview i thought how lucky we are to have such a smashing guy at the helm and a real footie fan as well!.Right from the start of his tenure he emphasized the need for evolution, not revolution and quick fixes, all the spin about millions of pounds be thrown at the club came from the media, and press and a lot of very exited long suffering supporters, and never from Wael himself. I wish the mods would ban the phrase UWE from this forum because as in the python sketch IT IS DEAD ,EXPIRED,AND DECEASED! It was never a viable proposition as far as Rovers were concerned, and we have to move on.I know its frustrating but its only been a couple of years,no time really, and i believe there is lots of ground work being done to lay the foundations for a great future for the Gas.Think of it like buying an old run down property to do up ,you have to do a lot of prep , make sure the foundations are sure, rub down all the old painted and decaying surfaces , remove that which is not suitable and then,AND ONLY THEN,can you replace ,and put the shiny new paint on, yes you could paint and patch up and it would look OK FOR A WHILE, but very quickly it all falls to pieces!So i am glad and relieved that we have a caring owner who is respectful of our past and very much planning for a great future for Bristol Rovers without destroying the culture of the club! keep up the good work Wael and thank you! I hope your right and I think your right too. I am worried about the Hani factor in it all though. Are you ? The Hani factor? What are you basing that on? Bollocks rumours started on here with no evidence whatsoever provided to back them up? Is it any coincidence that the negative rumours have stopped since certain people left the club?
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Post by allgasandgaiters on Feb 23, 2018 20:26:47 GMT
After listening to Waels interview i thought how lucky we are to have such a smashing guy at the helm and a real footie fan as well!.Right from the start of his tenure he emphasized the need for evolution, not revolution and quick fixes, all the spin about millions of pounds be thrown at the club came from the media, and press and a lot of very exited long suffering supporters, and never from Wael himself. I wish the mods would ban the phrase UWE from this forum because as in the python sketch IT IS DEAD ,EXPIRED,AND DECEASED! It was never a viable proposition as far as Rovers were concerned, and we have to move on.I know its frustrating but its only been a couple of years,no time really, and i believe there is lots of ground work being done to lay the foundations for a great future for the Gas.Think of it like buying an old run down property to do up ,you have to do a lot of prep , make sure the foundations are sure, rub down all the old painted and decaying surfaces , remove that which is not suitable and then,AND ONLY THEN,can you replace ,and put the shiny new paint on, yes you could paint and patch up and it would look OK FOR A WHILE, but very quickly it all falls to pieces!So i am glad and relieved that we have a caring owner who is respectful of our past and very much planning for a great future for Bristol Rovers without destroying the culture of the club! keep up the good work Wael and thank you! And ... breathe! ......
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Post by singupgas on Feb 23, 2018 20:48:27 GMT
I hope your right and I think your right too. I am worried about the Hani factor in it all though. Are you ? The Hani factor? What are you basing that on? Bollocks rumours started on here with no evidence whatsoever provided to back them up? Is it any coincidence that the negative rumours have stopped since certain people left the club? There are a lack of positive rumours though. Henbury greatness thread coming across as a bit of wind up and mocking the situation.
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Post by socrates on Feb 23, 2018 20:53:38 GMT
I hope your right and I think your right too. I am worried about the Hani factor in it all though. Are you ? The Hani factor? What are you basing that on? Bollocks rumours started on here with no evidence whatsoever provided to back them up? Is it any coincidence that the negative rumours have stopped since certain people left the club? The Hani factor in the sense that when Wael and his family bought the club it very quickly became clear that Wael loves football but his brother ( who it later became clear controls the money ) doesn’t and had to be convinced that buying Rovers was a good thing for them to do. In Waels words “ he thinks I’m crazy but I’ve talked him round “ I don’t give a sh** about rumours and as a mod you should know that , I’ve posted fairly regularly on here for years. I go on what I see and I like Wael I like what he wants to do and what he’s been doing but I’ve never seen Hani interviewed and I know he doesn’t like football I also have heard from Hamer that Hani controls the money so yes I am concerned about the Hani factor. So no not basing it on bollocks rumours at all thanks very much.
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Post by socrates on Feb 23, 2018 21:05:28 GMT
The Hani factor? What are you basing that on? Bollocks rumours started on here with no evidence whatsoever provided to back them up? Is it any coincidence that the negative rumours have stopped since certain people left the club? There are a lack of positive rumours though. Henbury greatness thread coming across as a bit of wind up and mocking the situation. I couldn’t give a monkeys about rumours , negative or positive and I’d urge everyone to do the same. Although a lot of people seem to love it and to be fair forums like this would be Quiet betweeen Monday morning and Friday evening ( apart from midweek matches ) if it wasn’t for rumours so it gives people something to talk about I suppose.
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Post by aghast on Feb 23, 2018 21:14:02 GMT
After listening to Waels interview i thought how lucky we are to have such a smashing guy at the helm and a real footie fan as well!.Right from the start of his tenure he emphasized the need for evolution, not revolution and quick fixes, all the spin about millions of pounds be thrown at the club came from the media, and press and a lot of very exited long suffering supporters, and never from Wael himself. I wish the mods would ban the phrase UWE from this forum because as in the python sketch IT IS DEAD ,EXPIRED,AND DECEASED! It was never a viable proposition as far as Rovers were concerned, and we have to move on.I know its frustrating but its only been a couple of years,no time really, and i believe there is lots of ground work being done to lay the foundations for a great future for the Gas.Think of it like buying an old run down property to do up ,you have to do a lot of prep , make sure the foundations are sure, rub down all the old painted and decaying surfaces , remove that which is not suitable and then,AND ONLY THEN,can you replace ,and put the shiny new paint on, yes you could paint and patch up and it would look OK FOR A WHILE, but very quickly it all falls to pieces!So i am glad and relieved that we have a caring owner who is respectful of our past and very much planning for a great future for Bristol Rovers without destroying the culture of the club! keep up the good work Wael and thank you! The UWE was viable when Sainsbury's looked like buying the Mem, I also assume for a year plus Wael thought it was viable, so to say it was never viable is nonsense. Just a pity a deal couldn't be agreed between the two parties. You're talking about two different situations. The first was where where we magically got the stadium for nothing, based on the sale of the Mem for squillions more than it was worth, so we could afford to give away many revenue streams to UWE. The second was where we had to actually pay for it ourselves, so unless UWE were willing to hand back all or most of those revenue streams, it could never be viable. After many months of negotiating, UWE were (understandably perhaps) not willing to lose out on what they thought would be a cash cow, and we (very understandably) were not willing to pay for a stadium which generated nothing for club except match day receipts. That's how I see it.
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Post by socrates on Feb 23, 2018 21:22:30 GMT
The UWE was viable when Sainsbury's looked like buying the Mem, I also assume for a year plus Wael thought it was viable, so to say it was never viable is nonsense. Just a pity a deal couldn't be agreed between the two parties. You're talking about two different situations. The first was where where we magically got the stadium for nothing, based on the sale of the Mem for squillions more than it was worth, so we could afford to give away many revenue streams to UWE. The second was where we had to actually pay for it ourselves, so unless UWE were willing to hand back all or most of those revenue streams, it could never be viable. After many months of negotiating, UWE were (understandably perhaps) not willing to lose out on what they thought would be a cash cow, and we (very understandably) were not willing to pay for a stadium which generated nothing for club except match day receipts. That's how I see it. I think your probably spot on with that assumption. I don’t know and neither do you I think but from everything that’s happened these last 2 years it’s the conclusion I’ve come to as well.
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