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Post by baggins on Mar 19, 2018 14:02:59 GMT
I don't get his straight into the starting 11 bit. Broadbent offers so much more, size, playing out from the back 4, it's a mystery. Maybe Scooby can solve it? I think he should have waited for an opportunity and just been a matchday squad member rather than straight into the starting XI. It is rare for DC to put a new signing in straight away so perhaps Craig insisted on a starting place during his signing talks and backed himself to keep his place? I think he has a lot to offer with experience and know how, could have perhaps done with that two months before he actually signed when we were struggling? Coming in and forcing Broadbent out of the matchday squad when he did didn't send a great message to the rest of the squad or fans IMO. I really can't think why we signed him or why we needed him. 2 great centre backs on the bench who have proved they're capable regardless of age. Odd and pointless waste of budget.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 14:49:58 GMT
How can you have 2 players sat on the bench on the halfway line ? I think you know what I meant but I'll respond anyway. I don't see the point in having smaller players back in our own box defending corners when all it does is enable more of the opposition to come forward - IMO much better to occupy some of the opposition as far away from our goal as possible. I referred to "the likes of Bennett, Nicholls and Telford" meaning that type of player. I totally agree with you I think KB would be my choice
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 19, 2018 18:52:50 GMT
I think he should have waited for an opportunity and just been a matchday squad member rather than straight into the starting XI. It is rare for DC to put a new signing in straight away so perhaps Craig insisted on a starting place during his signing talks and backed himself to keep his place? I think he has a lot to offer with experience and know how, could have perhaps done with that two months before he actually signed when we were struggling? Coming in and forcing Broadbent out of the matchday squad when he did didn't send a great message to the rest of the squad or fans IMO. I really can't think why we signed him or why we needed him. 2 great centre backs on the bench who have proved they're capable regardless of age. Odd and pointless waste of budget. He was brought in to bring experience, to replace the likes of McM, Manse and Easter, something most of us said was required. If it wasn't for a couple of dodgy refs decisions we could now be looking well placed for a Play Off push something we never looked like achieving before TC & KB arrived.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 19, 2018 18:58:05 GMT
I really can't think why we signed him or why we needed him. 2 great centre backs on the bench who have proved they're capable regardless of age. Odd and pointless waste of budget. He was brought in to bring experience, to replace the likes of McM, Manse and Easter, something most of us said was required. If it wasn't for a couple of dodgy refs decisions we could now be looking well placed for a Play Off push something we never looked like achieving before TC & KB arrived. IF? If my auntie had a pair of bollocks, she would be my uncle. Such a small word that can make such a difference?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 19, 2018 19:05:51 GMT
He was brought in to bring experience, to replace the likes of McM, Manse and Easter, something most of us said was required. If it wasn't for a couple of dodgy refs decisions we could now be looking well placed for a Play Off push something we never looked like achieving before TC & KB arrived. IF? If my auntie had a pair of bollocks, she would be my uncle. Such a small word that can make such a difference? As I suggested it was something we never even looked like achieving before they arrived, I guess your attention span got the better of you when you say the "if" word so you would just had to type some meaningless nonsense.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 19, 2018 19:09:36 GMT
IF? If my auntie had a pair of bollocks, she would be my uncle. Such a small word that can make such a difference? As I suggested it was something we never even looked like achieving before they arrived, I guess your attention span got the better of you when you say the "if" word so you would just had to type some meaningless nonsense. Meaningless nonsense lol. Priceless coming from you Topper!
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Post by socrates on Mar 19, 2018 19:13:18 GMT
Tom Broadbent has been our best central defender this season by a mile.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 19, 2018 19:15:21 GMT
Tom Broadbent has been our best central defender this season by a mile. I couldn’t agree more.
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Post by Gashead51 on Mar 19, 2018 19:23:34 GMT
Tom Broadbent has been our best central defender this season by a mile. I couldn’t agree more. I agree too, along with a thousands more if you listen to the word on the terraces. Every game I’ve attended since his last 90mins ask where or why is TB not playing, on the bench or not even in the squad?
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Post by socrates on Mar 19, 2018 19:36:43 GMT
I do however totally understand why DC signed Craig. It’s easy to say in hindsight that so far he’s only been an average signing which he has but DC signed him for his leadership , experience and probably thought he’d perform a bit better than he has too. Overall I think we’ll look back thinking he was a good signing. He’ll probably become a coach soon maybe even player coach next season. We did need more leadership and experience in the squad and he’s given us that. None of that changes the fact that Broadbents been our best defender though.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 19, 2018 21:39:41 GMT
The question is, have we looked any better at the back since Craig joined? Have we stopped shipping goals? Have we looked more organized? Have the "inexperienced" players improved? Have we stopped conceding sloppy goals?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 19, 2018 22:01:01 GMT
The question is, have we looked any better at the back since Craig joined? Have we stopped shipping goals? Have we looked more organized? Have the "inexperienced" players improved? Have we stopped conceding sloppy goals? Pre TC in January we let in 3 goals in 4 games with 1 clean sheet, post TC in Feb/March we've let in 11 goals in 8 games, so average of 5.5 goals every 4 games, with 1 clean sheet. So the stats suggests say we're no better? Plus TB's now stopped developing as a player.
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Post by paulpirate on Mar 19, 2018 22:05:30 GMT
Tom Broadbent has been our best central defender this season by a mile. here here,if dc carries on playing him he will be gone in the summer 🤨
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 19, 2018 22:30:16 GMT
The question is, have we looked any better at the back since Craig joined? Have we stopped shipping goals? Have we looked more organized? Have the "inexperienced" players improved? Have we stopped conceding sloppy goals? Pre TC in January we let in 3 goals in 4 games with 1 clean sheet, post TC in Feb/March we've let in 11 goals in 8 games, so average of 5.5 goals every 4 games, with 1 clean sheet. So the stats suggests say we're no better? Plus TB's now stopped developing as a player. Just noticed our recent from is L-D-W-D-L which hardly suggests TC is helping the team with his vast experience!!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 19, 2018 22:33:33 GMT
Looking at the fixtures I think we'll come up short of last season's points tally. I don't think that's much of an issue though. The squad is evolving. We can see that with the likes of Broadbent, Bennett and Russe looking likely to play bigger parts next season and with Menayese and Broom also hopefully coming into their own. In my opinion, the key to our success for next season could hinge on keeping Ellis, Locks and Sercs, and Ollie Clarke being 100% fit. If that's the case then I could see us challenging with the addition of one quality forward player.
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Post by tommym9 on Mar 19, 2018 22:37:57 GMT
Thanks for the write up Steve. It was hard to tell from our end, but the replay shows the first penalty is OC tackling from behind.
The second one their player seems to run into TLs arm which was admittedly high.
Feeling a bit hard done by but our own mistakes cost us really.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 0:21:19 GMT
Craig didn't have to fight for his place like most others. He replaced someone who was in good form and from what I've seen isn't playing as well as the player he replaced. I don't get his straight into the starting 11 bit. Broadbent offers so much more, size, playing out from the back 4, it's a mystery. Maybe Scooby can solve it? I dont think its a mystery at all,at this stage craig is a better defender than broadbent and sweeney. We were regularly shipping 4 goals with lockyer,sweeney,burn and broadbent playing, thankfully thats improved. Playing out from the back in league one is over rated imo v rochdale we twice got into difficulties from intercepted balls from broadbent. Broadbent has done well and looks a real find but hes had some poor games and was very shaky in his last game v rochdale.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 20, 2018 8:35:47 GMT
I don't get his straight into the starting 11 bit. Broadbent offers so much more, size, playing out from the back 4, it's a mystery. Maybe Scooby can solve it? I dont think its a mystery at all,at this stage craig is a better defender than broadbent and sweeney. We were regularly shipping 4 goals with lockyer,sweeney,burn and broadbent playing, thankfully thats improved. Playing out from the back in league one is over rated imo v rochdale we twice got into difficulties from intercepted balls from broadbent. Broadbent has done well and looks a real find but hes had some poor games and was very shaky in his last game v rochdale. As they say the stats don't lie, I've already posted this a few posts back: Pre TC in January we let in 3 goals in 4 games with 1 clean sheet, post TC in Feb/March we've let in 11 goals in 8 games, so average of 5.5 goals every 4 games, with 1 clean sheet. So the stats suggests say we're no better? Plus TB's now stopped developing as a player. Just noticed our recent from is L-D-W-D-L which hardly suggests TC is helping the team with his vast experience!! There's nothing in the stats to suggest TC has brought any benefit to the team, from memory TB's last game v Rochdale was alongside TC!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 9:03:29 GMT
I dont think its a mystery at all,at this stage craig is a better defender than broadbent and sweeney. We were regularly shipping 4 goals with lockyer,sweeney,burn and broadbent playing, thankfully thats improved. Playing out from the back in league one is over rated imo v rochdale we twice got into difficulties from intercepted balls from broadbent. Broadbent has done well and looks a real find but hes had some poor games and was very shaky in his last game v rochdale. As they say the stats don't lie, I've already posted this a few posts back: Pre TC in January we let in 3 goals in 4 games with 1 clean sheet, post TC in Feb/March we've let in 11 goals in 8 games, so average of 5.5 goals every 4 games, with 1 clean sheet. So the stats suggests say we're no better? Plus TB's now stopped developing as a player. Just noticed our recent from is L-D-W-D-L which hardly suggests TC is helping the team with his vast experience!! There's nothing in the stats to suggest TC has brought any benefit to the team, from memory TB's last game v Rochdale was alongside TC! Dc made up his mind to get an experienced defender based on the goals against from august to january not just the january games. Take a look through all the results this season and its blindingly obvious why he signed craig.
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 20, 2018 9:08:49 GMT
As they say the stats don't lie, I've already posted this a few posts back: Pre TC in January we let in 3 goals in 4 games with 1 clean sheet, post TC in Feb/March we've let in 11 goals in 8 games, so average of 5.5 goals every 4 games, with 1 clean sheet. So the stats suggests say we're no better? Plus TB's now stopped developing as a player. Just noticed our recent from is L-D-W-D-L which hardly suggests TC is helping the team with his vast experience!! There's nothing in the stats to suggest TC has brought any benefit to the team, from memory TB's last game v Rochdale was alongside TC! Dc made up his mind to get an experienced defender based on the goals against from august to january not just the january games. Take a look through all the results this season and its blindingly obvious why he signed craig. I agree, it seems to me that he wanted an experienced defender, wanted TC and was able to get him. Whether he works out is open to debate as all signings are, but it's what DC wanted.
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