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Apr 23, 2018 22:05:06 GMT
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Post by tylerdunnell03 on Apr 23, 2018 22:05:06 GMT
What’s everybody’s take on the strikers? I think after losing Taylor and bodin we do lack the cutting edge and bit of quality in the final third... Harrison has been great this season and I like the look of Telford but obviously he hasn’t had the game time. I think we need to let Nichols have a year in league 2 at a top 6 club and get him scoring again, but I think we need to spend a bit on a striker this summer as Ellis could do with a partner who can also score. Lots of people like Gaffney but I’m sorry to say I think he must go he’s on for 15 minuets hardly trying and puffing out his arse! Hope we sign Telford as he looks a tidy player but think we need to get Ellis a proper goal scoring partner. My personal hope at the moment is Lyle Taylor on a free but let’s hope Darrell can pull a rabbit out the hat! Leave your opinions and any strikers worth having a look at.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Apr 23, 2018 22:11:23 GMT
If you look at the for and against goals against other teams in the division we are not too bad scoring obviously could be better but it's the amount of goals we concede that is a bigger problem and that needs to be addressed first
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Apr 23, 2018 22:32:43 GMT
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Post by tylerdunnell03 on Apr 23, 2018 22:32:43 GMT
If you look at the for and against goals against other teams in the division we are not too bad scoring obviously could be better but it's the amount of goals we concede that is a bigger problem and that needs to be addressed first Yes I 100% agree with u but I was just on about strikers and I think we need a top goalscorer to progress further personally. Liam sercombe chips in and the likes of Bennett but just imagine if we had a few extra goals in the strikers where we could be
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Post by pirate on Apr 23, 2018 23:20:08 GMT
I think Gaffney will probably need to be replaced if we are to kick on. With a heavy heart, I'd thank him for his efforts and wish him well for the future.
Nichols has obviously struggled and if I had my way I'd probably move him on if possible. The fact he cost us a decent amount of money means I can't see us recouping anywhere near the amount we paid for him though. Maybe it would be worth us trying to get him a loan deal somewhere to help him try and get regular game time and to find his scoring boots.
I've not seen enough of Telford to say whether he is worth a deal in the summer or not, but his goalscoring record in the development squad suggests there could be a player there.
There are a number of strikers I would personally target: Sergio Buenacasa (free), Mart Lieder (free), Streli Mamba (free), Patrick Schmidt (free), Petar Sliskovic (free), Nuha Marong (free), Macauley Chrisantus (free), Sory Kaba, Dani Aquino, Manuel Fischnaller, Marcel Platzek, Sam Hendriks and Alex Jones.
There are other ones I like, but that would be my priority list.
I've mentioned him more than a few times recently, but the one that stands out for me is Sergio Buenacasa available on a free. He has been well schooled at Barcelona and Juventus and has all the attributes to score goals at this level. 6ft, strong, quick and a good finisher off both feet and his head.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 0:28:32 GMT
We dont have a european or worldwide scouting network to actually watch the players play live so we can only offer a trial to a player with a good video which is very limiting. I dont think the club or other similar clubs have the resources to set up a workable and cost effective network in that area. If the op is talking about promotion quality strikers well i reckon we have one striker. Promotion quality midfield player = 2 players Promotion quality defenders = 0 players Promotion qualty goalkeepers = 0 players So we do have some problems in that respect.
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Apr 24, 2018 0:44:51 GMT
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Post by pirate on Apr 24, 2018 0:44:51 GMT
We dont have a european or worldwide scouting network to actually watch the players play live so we can only offer a trial to a player with a good video which is very limiting. I dont think the club or other similar clubs have the resources to set up a workable and cost effective network in that area. If the op is talking about promotion quality strikers well i reckon we have one striker. Promotion quality midfield player = 2 players Promotion quality defenders = 0 players Promotion qualty goalkeepers = 0 players So we do have some problems in that respect. It's far easier to scout players abroad now with applications such as Scout7 and Wyscout etc. That will provide you with enough footage and data to then dispatch someone to make a trip abroad to watch the player in person where applicable. We were told we are starting to look down the foreign route more now and we have seen one or two lads from abroad join the development squad. Brian Dutton was brought in with one eye in this direction and one of his tasks is apparently "identifying players from abroad who would suit Rovers' playing style." www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-looking-recruitment-abroad-56959
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 0:55:14 GMT
We dont have a european or worldwide scouting network to actually watch the players play live so we can only offer a trial to a player with a good video which is very limiting. I dont think the club or other similar clubs have the resources to set up a workable and cost effective network in that area. If the op is talking about promotion quality strikers well i reckon we have one striker. Promotion quality midfield player = 2 players Promotion quality defenders = 0 players Promotion qualty goalkeepers = 0 players So we do have some problems in that respect. It's far easier to scout players abroad now with applications such as Scout7 and Wyscout etc. That will provide you with enough footage and data to then dispatch someone to make a trip abroad to watch the player in person where applicable. We were told we are starting to look down the foreign route more now and we have seen one or two lads from abroad join the development squad. Brian Dutton was brought in with one eye in this direction and one of his tasks is apparently "identifying players from abroad who would suit Rovers' playing style." www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-looking-recruitment-abroad-56959You make a good case for this,basically your saying watch some videos then send your scout out to sweden or wherever and watch say 3 games etc? Apart from the fact we havnt exploited this route,why havnt other lge 1 and 2 clubs? Ps i know oldham signed some french players but its not widespread.
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Apr 24, 2018 1:12:20 GMT
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Post by pirate on Apr 24, 2018 1:12:20 GMT
It's far easier to scout players abroad now with applications such as Scout7 and Wyscout etc. That will provide you with enough footage and data to then dispatch someone to make a trip abroad to watch the player in person where applicable. We were told we are starting to look down the foreign route more now and we have seen one or two lads from abroad join the development squad. Brian Dutton was brought in with one eye in this direction and one of his tasks is apparently "identifying players from abroad who would suit Rovers' playing style." www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-looking-recruitment-abroad-56959You make a good case for this,basically your saying watch some videos then send your scout out to sweden or wherever and watch say 3 games etc? Apart from the fact we havnt exploited this route,why havnt other lge 1 and 2 clubs? Ps i know oldham signed some french players but its not widespread. Yeah, basically. I think I'm right in saying companies like Scout7/Wyscout have a massive database of matches from leagues across the world, including some of the lower divisions. You could possibly watch every appearance from the past few seasons for a player and then make a decision to go and scout him in person for a few games. I don't know exactly why teams haven't gone down this route more in the lower divisions, it could simply be down to finance, but there have been more and more in recent seasons. The signing of Funso Ojo at Scunthorpe looks an inspired bit of business and even Crawley Town have made 5 signings from abroad over the past couple of seasons, with Enzio Boldewijn particularly impressing.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Apr 24, 2018 5:05:26 GMT
If you look at the for and against goals against other teams in the division we are not too bad scoring obviously could be better but it's the amount of goals we concede that is a bigger problem and that needs to be addressed first Yes I agree. Therefore, regarding the strikers, I would only make small changes. Sign Telford on a permanent, give Nichols one more season to prove himself (he is under contract and nobody is going to buy him anyway) then get a replacement for Gafney. With Bennet now chipping in with goals we are looking healthy on the goal scoring front. More work needs to be done to stop conceding so many so this is where the priority should be in the summer.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 24, 2018 6:08:22 GMT
If you look at the for and against goals against other teams in the division we are not too bad scoring obviously could be better but it's the amount of goals we concede that is a bigger problem and that needs to be addressed first Yes I agree. Therefore, regarding the strikers, I would only make small changes. Sign Telford on a permanent, give Nichols one more season to prove himself (he is under contract and nobody is going to buy him anyway) then get a replacement for Gafney.With Bennet now chipping in with goals we are looking healthy on the goal scoring front. More work needs to be done to stop conceding so many so this is where the priority should be in the summer. This is exactly how I see it. Telford has huge potential, must try to sign. Nichols cost a lot of money and is surely better than he has shown so give him another season and Gaffney has probably reached his peak already with us and despite appreciating his efforts, I realise he isn't go to take us any further. There has to be a concern that Ellis might leave, I don't know how long he has left on his contract but I can see us, yet again, only getting peanuts for our best player. If he only has a year left on his contract then we could be better off selling him in the summer. Clubs are starting to notice him now and he is clearly on the radar.
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Apr 24, 2018 6:27:20 GMT
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Post by socrates on Apr 24, 2018 6:27:20 GMT
I think Gaffney will probably need to be replaced if we are to kick on. With a heavy heart, I'd thank him for his efforts and wish him well for the future. Nichols has obviously struggled and if I had my way I'd probably move him on if possible. The fact he cost us a decent amount of money means I can't see us recouping anywhere near the amount we paid for him though. Maybe it would be worth us trying to get him a loan deal somewhere to help him try and get regular game time and to find his scoring boots. I've not seen enough of Telford to say whether he is worth a deal in the summer or not, but his goalscoring record in the development squad suggests there could be a player there. There are a number of strikers I would personally target: Sergio Buenacasa (free), Mart Lieder (free), Streli Mamba (free), Patrick Schmidt (free), Petar Sliskovic (free), Nuha Marong (free), Macauley Chrisantus (free), Sory Kaba, Dani Aquino, Manuel Fischnaller, Marcel Platzek, Sam Hendriks and Alex Jones. There are other ones I like, but that would be my priority list. I've mentioned him more than a few times recently, but the one that stands out for me is Sergio Buenacasa available on a free. He has been well schooled at Barcelona and Juventus and has all the attributes to score goals at this level. 6ft, strong, quick and a good finisher off both feet and his head. Where does he play currently ?
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 24, 2018 6:38:38 GMT
I think Gaffney will probably need to be replaced if we are to kick on. With a heavy heart, I'd thank him for his efforts and wish him well for the future. Nichols has obviously struggled and if I had my way I'd probably move him on if possible. The fact he cost us a decent amount of money means I can't see us recouping anywhere near the amount we paid for him though. Maybe it would be worth us trying to get him a loan deal somewhere to help him try and get regular game time and to find his scoring boots. I've not seen enough of Telford to say whether he is worth a deal in the summer or not, but his goalscoring record in the development squad suggests there could be a player there. There are a number of strikers I would personally target: Sergio Buenacasa (free), Mart Lieder (free), Streli Mamba (free), Patrick Schmidt (free), Petar Sliskovic (free), Nuha Marong (free), Macauley Chrisantus (free), Sory Kaba, Dani Aquino, Manuel Fischnaller, Marcel Platzek, Sam Hendriks and Alex Jones. There are other ones I like, but that would be my priority list. I've mentioned him more than a few times recently, but the one that stands out for me is Sergio Buenacasa available on a free. He has been well schooled at Barcelona and Juventus and has all the attributes to score goals at this level. 6ft, strong, quick and a good finisher off both feet and his head. We can’t afford him too many letters for his shirt!😂
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Apr 24, 2018 6:45:34 GMT
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Apr 24, 2018 6:45:34 GMT
Agree with a lot of what has been said in this thread my own personal take is that our scoring record compares well with most of the teams in the division but to me we still don't appear to be a team that creates huge amounts of chances. DC in the past has liked a lot of forward options we've had 2 strikers starting with 3 on the bench on a number of occasions. With that in mind if finances allow I'd like to see two come in even as well as Telford signed. Personally I think more creativity in midfield & a defensive midfielder are priorities over spending big on a striker.
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Post by Nortongashead on Apr 24, 2018 7:22:20 GMT
Losing Bodin's quality in the final third has probably cost us a play off push if he stayed fit for us. We currently do not have a 20 goal striker within our ranks although Ellis can be commended for his efforts this season. Ellis is improving all the time and badly needs a strike partner for a 4-4-2 formation. Nichols has been disappointing but I believe its as much to do with DC as it is him the striker himself. I would like to see him loaned out to get him scoring again, if he has a successful loan then it gives us options for January. Then again would completely understand if he was let go for a lesser fee than we gave, sometimes signings don't work and DC can't sh** miracles all the time. Telford for me has something in his locker and would like to see him signed on a permanent if he is available. Gaffney is a good player who works his socks off but I feel if we want to bring in more quality then he will be the man to make way, his scoring record is not prolific enough for a team with top 6 aspirations in L1. Obvious signings are Stockley of Exeter or Taylor of Wimbledon but a lot as always depends on the backing of the owners, really hope their ambitions match DC's or I fear it may be time for DC to move as he will of taken us as far can with current backing.
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Post by badengas on Apr 24, 2018 8:25:05 GMT
Play Broadbent as an old fashioned number 9 and Harrison, Bennett and even Nichols could all score 20 plus off him.
Better still sign Akinfenwa to play alongside him and simply frighten the crap out of defences until they let you score.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Apr 24, 2018 8:54:20 GMT
Put the beard up front with Ellis then we have the new smash and grab
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Post by peterhooper57 on Apr 24, 2018 9:01:39 GMT
IMO definitely need to offer Ellis an extended contract. Loan out Nichols and let Gaffney and Telford go.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 24, 2018 9:07:05 GMT
IMO definitely need to offer Ellis an extended contract. Loan out Nichols and let Gaffney and Telford go.Why? Personally I'd let Gaffers go, assuming he's out of contract, as he just doesn't seem to be improving. I'd tell Nichols he's got pre-season plus August to make his mark or he can find another club on loan. Assuming we sign Telford I'd spend a decent part of the transfer/playing budget on another centre forward to replace Gaffers.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Apr 24, 2018 9:17:32 GMT
DC makes the call on who does and who does not play, and unfortunately for Telford, DC rarely picks him, so l would let him go and free up money to bring in two quality strikers.
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Post by Nortongashead on Apr 24, 2018 9:46:50 GMT
Steve Morison of Millwall anyone, bags of experience and could get on a free.
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