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Post by twertonboy on Jun 30, 2018 15:04:24 GMT
It’s Concerning we’re not being linked with another striker at the same time as a back up but all other clubs that were in the hunt have been... I might be wrong but that was the only proven goal scorer in this division that was out of contract ? So there’s no way we can splash out and buy someone not after the Nichols disaster... Telford on loan again is our best bet now Why do we have to be linked with strikers? DC evidently likes to go quietly about his business. Not sure why we have to tell all and sundry what moves we are making in the transfer window! When there’s smoke I’m pretty sure dc or any other manager doesn’t want it leaked but in this day and age it gets leaked especially by the players agents to increase interest so it’s not a case of dc keeping it quiet
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jun 30, 2018 18:21:13 GMT
We don’t ever seem to be able to convince players wanted by other clubs. With one of the worst grounds in the football league and no training ground of their own, Bristol Rovers are unlikely to attract any quality players above division 2, o ye the bottom six budget will also prove problematic
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 30, 2018 18:24:18 GMT
We don’t ever seem to be able to convince players wanted by other clubs. With one of the worst grounds in the football league and no training ground of their own, Bristol Rovers are unlikely to attract any quality players above division 2, o ye the bottom six budget will also prove problematic Then factor in permanently miserable fans with nothing good to say about the club and it's a wonder anyone bothers.
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Post by pirate on Jun 30, 2018 18:25:04 GMT
We don’t ever seem to be able to convince players wanted by other clubs. With one of the worst grounds in the football league and no training ground of their own, Bristol Rovers are unlikely to attract any quality players above division 2, o ye the bottom six budget will also prove problematic The owners are rich enough to afford a few quality players if they wanted to.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jun 30, 2018 18:33:47 GMT
With one of the worst grounds in the football league and no training ground of their own, Bristol Rovers are unlikely to attract any quality players above division 2, o ye the bottom six budget will also prove problematic Then factor in permanently miserable fans with nothing good to say about the club and it's a wonder anyone bothers. Really, IMO the support is the best thing about the club. Rovers supporters are no more miserable and arguably better than any other team in the uk. Also we are so lucky to have D.C. without him we would be in trouble.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jun 30, 2018 18:36:37 GMT
With one of the worst grounds in the football league and no training ground of their own, Bristol Rovers are unlikely to attract any quality players above division 2, o ye the bottom six budget will also prove problematic The owners are rich enough to afford a few quality players if they wanted to. Agreed. But l interpret evolution over revolution as we are not putting any of our own personal money into the club. So no Lyle Taylor’s any time soon.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jun 30, 2018 20:49:58 GMT
We don’t ever seem to be able to convince players wanted by other clubs. With one of the worst grounds in the football league and no training ground of their own, Bristol Rovers are unlikely to attract any quality players above division 2, o ye the bottom six budget will also prove problematic I honestly don't think the memorial stadium or training facilities make the mind up of potential signings. No one on the pitch worries about the non homogenous seating when Thatchers End is roaring in their favour. We do have training facilities, gyms, therapists, analyst and a fair physio recovery rate that might enhance a genuine candidate. But the real reason is wages and ambition. And the chance to work with genuine players in a (seems to appear) content environment bordering on feeling belonging to a family. In my opinion..
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Post by knowall on Jun 30, 2018 21:01:07 GMT
The owners are rich enough to afford a few quality players if they wanted to. Agreed. But l interpret evolution over revolution as we are not putting any of our own personal money into the club. So no Lyle Taylor’s any time soon. so where is the money coming from then? Ex Directors paid off. loan company paid off, more staff employed, new pitch (twice) improvements to bars and shop and more to come - somewhere in the region of £15000000 spent - so where does that all come from?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 30, 2018 21:31:22 GMT
Agreed. But l interpret evolution over revolution as we are not putting any of our own personal money into the club. So no Lyle Taylor’s any time soon. so where is the money coming from then? Ex Directors paid off. loan company paid off, more staff employed, new pitch (twice) improvements to bars and shop and more to come - somewhere in the region of £15000000 spent - so where does that all come from? I thought the bar was funded by the insurance money and brewery with the club shop funded by Macron? PH57 is clearly suggesting all the money is being offset against the Mem value, the ALQ's, as far as most of us are aware, haven't written off a single penny so far. Spending money, twice, on a pitch isn't going to fund a decent replacement for Taylor/Bodin which is what is required this summer.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 30, 2018 22:27:48 GMT
so where is the money coming from then? Ex Directors paid off. loan company paid off, more staff employed, new pitch (twice) improvements to bars and shop and more to come - somewhere in the region of £15000000 spent - so where does that all come from? I thought the bar was funded by the insurance money and brewery with the club shop funded by Macron? PH57 is clearly suggesting all the money is being offset against the Mem value, the ALQ's, as far as most of us are aware, haven't written off a single penny so far. Spending money, twice, on a pitch isn't going to fund a decent replacement for Taylor/Bodin which is what is required this summer. Didn't they write off the MSP loan or did I misremember that? In terms of offsetting against the Mem value, that is security not cash. They are still spending their own money, at least upfront.
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Post by axegas on Jun 30, 2018 23:38:54 GMT
With one of the worst grounds in the football league and no training ground of their own, Bristol Rovers are unlikely to attract any quality players above division 2, o ye the bottom six budget will also prove problematic I honestly don't think the memorial stadium or training facilities make the mind up of potential signings. No one on the pitch worries about the non homogenous seating when Thatchers End is roaring in their favour. We do have training facilities, gyms, therapists, analyst and a fair physio recovery rate that might enhance a genuine candidate. But the real reason is wages and ambition. And the chance to work with genuine players in a (seems to appear) content environment bordering on feeling belonging to a family. In my opinion.. Don't forget Geography too seeing as it appears we missed out on Otis Khan and Lyle Taylor because of this. It hands clubs in London and up north where there are lots of teams around, a genuine advantage. I'd also argue that training facilities are more of a factor than you might think. A players impressions of a club with a plush, state of the art modern training ground are going to be so much higher than a club with the facilities that we do. Basing the physiotherapy in an old dressing room is hardly going to convince a potential player to join.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jul 1, 2018 5:05:40 GMT
I honestly don't think the memorial stadium or training facilities make the mind up of potential signings. No one on the pitch worries about the non homogenous seating when Thatchers End is roaring in their favour. We do have training facilities, gyms, therapists, analyst and a fair physio recovery rate that might enhance a genuine candidate. But the real reason is wages and ambition. And the chance to work with genuine players in a (seems to appear) content environment bordering on feeling belonging to a family. In my opinion.. Don't forget Geography too seeing as it appears we missed out on Otis Khan and Lyle Taylor because of this. It hands clubs in London and up north where there are lots of teams around, a genuine advantage. I'd also argue that training facilities are more of a factor than you might think. A players impressions of a club with a plush, state of the art modern training ground are going to be so much higher than a club with the facilities that we do. Basing the physiotherapy in an old dressing room is hardly going to convince a potential player to join. Yes, agreed, there are other factors. Quite different from amateur football, where alot of choosing a club is based on locality and the group of mates or circle of social friends is a priority..
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Post by poorblue on Jul 1, 2018 8:05:13 GMT
Jun 27, 2018 at 3:34pm aforce said:
We don’t ever seem to be able to convince players wanted by other clubs.
With one of the worst grounds in the football league and no training ground of their own, Bristol Rovers are unlikely to attract any quality players above division 2, o ye the bottom six budget will also prove problematic
Strange how we all see things differently!
For a team that is full of players of doubtful ability that no other football league team wanted the Gas has somehow with a manager who doesn't sort out his team until too late in the transfer window that 2 successive promotions have been achieved. Even more strange that some of those doubtful ability players have stirred some fans into a frenzy of doom and gloom when other teams seem to see some good in them as they depart to higher pastures.
I have been attending Rovers games for quite a while now. I have been to over 130 away grounds watching them. Of those 98 were league grounds. Whilst we all see things in a different manner I cannot accept the view that the Mem is one of the worst grounds in the league. In my view at worst it is somewhat like the teams position i.e. in the middle of the 96 league teams stadiums.
I don't understand some fans preoccupation with the training ground? Yes a training ground is important but who owns it? Believe me Rovers 1st team do train on a very nice training ground. Only Div 2 quality players will sign for Rovers until we own a training ground? Channon, Ball, Walters, Lambert, Cureton, Stewart, Carayol, Taylor and Bodin makes light of that rash statement. As you can see I'm not a doom and gloom merchant that only leads to further despair.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 1, 2018 9:33:27 GMT
The MSP loan wasn't "written off" it was simply transferred elsewhere and forms part of the £10m+ overall debts.
As things stand the ALQ's are simply servicing the ever increasing debts, and even the interest on that is being added to the debts. At some point the ALQ's will have to come with a plan to stop the debts increasing.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 1, 2018 9:39:43 GMT
Jun 27, 2018 at 3:34pm aforce said:
We don’t ever seem to be able to convince players wanted by other clubs.
With one of the worst grounds in the football league and no training ground of their own, Bristol Rovers are unlikely to attract any quality players above division 2, o ye the bottom six budget will also prove problematic
Strange how we all see things differently! For a team that is full of players of doubtful ability that no other football league team wanted the Gas has somehow with a manager who doesn't sort out his team until too late in the transfer window that 2 successive promotions have been achieved. Even more strange that some of those doubtful ability players have stirred some fans into a frenzy of doom and gloom when other teams seem to see some good in them as they depart to higher pastures. I have been attending Rovers games for quite a while now. I have been to over 130 away grounds watching them. Of those 98 were league grounds. Whilst we all see things in a different manner I cannot accept the view that the Mem is one of the worst grounds in the league. In my view at worst it is somewhat like the teams position i.e. in the middle of the 96 league teams stadiums. I don't understand some fans preoccupation with the training ground? Yes a training ground is important but who owns it? Believe me Rovers 1st team do train on a very nice training ground. Only Div 2 quality players will sign for Rovers until we own a training ground? Channon, Ball, Walters, Lambert, Cureton, Stewart, Carayol, Taylor and Bodin makes light of that rash statement. As you can see I'm not a doom and gloom merchant that only leads to further despair. Carayol, Taylor and Bodin were all Div 2 or lower players simply looking for a decent playing contract, the last thing they probably worried about is our training ground etc. If we are to progress we need to be signing the likes of Taylor i.e. good mid table Div 1 players looking to make the next step up. If DC can't bring a number of those in this summer another mid table finish will be on the cards. Regardless does anyone seriously consider we can survive more than a season based at the present Mem and a rented training ground.
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