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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 9:39:15 GMT
Meanwhile, back in the land of the living BBC News - Shipping containers used to house homeless children www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-49412835Whilst we water £6b against the wall because of leavers. And how much of our money has been spnked up the wall by inept Espana, corrupt Romania & Bulgaria, freeloading Poland ? Tell us?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 9:41:10 GMT
What propaganda? Probably best if you refuse to discuss it eh, as once again you'll be shown to be wrong. Who was the "Remainer" who wrote the Yellowhammer report??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 9:51:34 GMT
That is a terrible article written by someone who has no idea how the financial markets work. I'm pretty sure that with his 25 rip roaring years in the City that Oldie will agree with me. Deary me, is this what passes for journalism these days. A quote you often make. So in reference to the claim made in this article how do the financial markets work, in layman's terms?? Silly man. You know as well as I do that they really are quite complicated and the manner of that article indicates it was written by someone who doesn't understand it, plus it was written FOR people who don't understand it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 9:52:49 GMT
What propaganda? Probably best if you refuse to discuss it eh, as once again you'll be shown to be wrong. Who was the "Remainer" who wrote the Yellowhammer report?? You are aware that it was probably not written by one person? What stupid questions you ask.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 9:56:26 GMT
More good news.... UK set to announce huge Asian trade deal despite 'Project Fear' ploy. "The agreement with South Korea will allow businesses to keep trading freely until after the October 31 exit date. The new free trade agreement also allegedly replicates the parameters of the current EU-South Korea trade deal which was signed in 2011. Recently appointed Trade Secretary, Liz Truss will apparently sign the deal with Korean Minister of Trade, Yoo Myung-hee in London." Trade deal with South KoreaSo, In basic terms, we have, or are about to, spend £6.1B to replicate what we already have as members of the EU...Wouldn't pass muster in the financial analysis demanded in the City. Um....no. Yet again you only see things in black & white. This repeating myself is getting quite tedious. Over 2 billion of that money has been 'set aside' to deal with any potential problems that may crop up. It is not being spent, but is there if needed. Around 1 billion is being spent on infrastructure around various ports to facilitate the easy transit for vehicles etc. The throughput of vehicles is being spread around more to other ports as Dover-Calais is seen as a choke-point. This will also create jobs in the other ports.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 10:27:37 GMT
A quote you often make. So in reference to the claim made in this article how do the financial markets work, in layman's terms?? Silly man. You know as well as I do that they really are quite complicated and the manner of that article indicates it was written by someone who doesn't understand it, plus it was written FOR people who don't understand it. So, in essence, it's an empty response.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 10:28:55 GMT
Who was the "Remainer" who wrote the Yellowhammer report?? You are aware that it was probably not written by one person? What stupid questions you ask. Precisely, I would have expected nothing less. Which makes the quote (written by a "remainer")nonsensical.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 10:31:52 GMT
So, In basic terms, we have, or are about to, spend £6.1B to replicate what we already have as members of the EU...Wouldn't pass muster in the financial analysis demanded in the City. Um....no. Yet again you only see things in black & white. This repeating myself is getting quite tedious. Over 2 billion of that money has been 'set aside' to deal with any potential problems that may crop up. It is not being spent, but is there if needed. Around 1 billion is being spent on infrastructure around various ports to facilitate the easy transit for vehicles etc. The throughput of vehicles is being spread around more to other ports as Dover-Calais is seen as a choke-point. This will also create jobs in the other ports. You missing the point deliberately? We already have this deal with South Korea, right now, today. Even 2p spent on replicating it is 2p too much. Leaver stupidity in all its glory.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 10:40:46 GMT
Silly man. You know as well as I do that they really are quite complicated and the manner of that article indicates it was written by someone who doesn't understand it, plus it was written FOR people who don't understand it. So, in essence, it's an empty response. Well, if you don't have some vague understanding of how the markets work after 25 rip roaring years in the City, then how the hell do you expect anyone else to?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 10:45:14 GMT
Um....no. Yet again you only see things in black & white. This repeating myself is getting quite tedious. Over 2 billion of that money has been 'set aside' to deal with any potential problems that may crop up. It is not being spent, but is there if needed. Around 1 billion is being spent on infrastructure around various ports to facilitate the easy transit for vehicles etc. The throughput of vehicles is being spread around more to other ports as Dover-Calais is seen as a choke-point. This will also create jobs in the other ports. You missing the point deliberately? We already have this deal with South Korea, right now, today. Even 2p spent on replicating it is 2p too much. Leaver stupidity in all its glory. But you've been saying for ages that we will lose all these deals! In fact, if you bothered to read the report about Malaysia, they are suggesting that the UK will get an even better deal than the one the EU has! So, you moan about austerity, and also moan about government spending. You moan about losing trade deals, yet moan when we don't lose trade deals. Methinks you are getting desperate in your arguments.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 10:51:02 GMT
Came across this book today. It looks mighty interesting....
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Post by baggins on Aug 22, 2019 11:27:24 GMT
Came across this book today. It looks mighty interesting.... Written by a Farmer no doubt.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 13:36:00 GMT
So, in essence, it's an empty response. Well, if you don't have some vague understanding of how the markets work after 25 rip roaring years in the City, then how the hell do you expect anyone else to? I am asking you the question, as you made the assertion in your put down of the article in the Metro. Well?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 13:41:49 GMT
You missing the point deliberately? We already have this deal with South Korea, right now, today. Even 2p spent on replicating it is 2p too much. Leaver stupidity in all its glory. But you've been saying for ages that we will lose all these deals! In fact, if you bothered to read the report about Malaysia, they are suggesting that the UK will get an even better deal than the one the EU has! So, you moan about austerity, and also moan about government spending. You moan about losing trade deals, yet moan when we don't lose trade deals. Methinks you are getting desperate in your arguments. Obtuse. We will lose the 60 odd deals when we leave. The point is, again, we appear to be spending £6.1B to get them back...one so far. On exactly the same terms. Would you walk away from a contract which has a basis in law, only to turn around and sign the same contract after spending huge sums of money. Does that sort of strategy add up to any financial analysis? Yes/No Edit. sh**, I forgot, you support leave.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 13:55:26 GMT
Brexit is not just about trade. As I've said many times if the EU had remained purely a trade organisation there would never have been such discontent and a subsequent majority vote to leave.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 15:53:32 GMT
But you've been saying for ages that we will lose all these deals! In fact, if you bothered to read the report about Malaysia, they are suggesting that the UK will get an even better deal than the one the EU has! So, you moan about austerity, and also moan about government spending. You moan about losing trade deals, yet moan when we don't lose trade deals. Methinks you are getting desperate in your arguments. Obtuse. We will lose the 60 odd deals when we leave. The point is, again, we appear to be spending £6.1B to get them back...one so far. On exactly the same terms. Would you walk away from a contract which has a basis in law, only to turn around and sign the same contract after spending huge sums of money. Does that sort of strategy add up to any financial analysis? Yes/No Edit. sh**, I forgot, you support leave. A one-off cost of 6 billion to save 20+ billion every single year. That is 200+ billion in the first ten years alone. In my mind that stands up to any financial analysis. You did say you worked in the City didn't you? Were you very successful? Sorry, no need to answer that.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 22, 2019 19:05:35 GMT
Brexit is not just about trade. As I've said many times if the EU had remained purely a trade organisation there would never have been such discontent and a subsequent majority vote to leave. I agree it wasn't all economics, although I am struggling to see any tangible benefits for all this economic and political upheaval.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 22, 2019 19:09:40 GMT
Obtuse. We will lose the 60 odd deals when we leave. The point is, again, we appear to be spending £6.1B to get them back...one so far. On exactly the same terms. Would you walk away from a contract which has a basis in law, only to turn around and sign the same contract after spending huge sums of money. Does that sort of strategy add up to any financial analysis? Yes/No Edit. sh**, I forgot, you support leave. A one-off cost of 6 billion to save 20+ billion every single year. That is 200+ billion in the first ten years alone. In my mind that stands up to any financial analysis. You did say you worked in the City didn't you? Were you very successful? Sorry, no need to answer that. Not sure I agree with your savings, even so how much of that is genuine discretionary spend and how much is used to offset the costs such as stimulus packages, tariff offsets, tax cuts or promises to retain existing spending?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 19:26:10 GMT
A one-off cost of 6 billion to save 20+ billion every single year. That is 200+ billion in the first ten years alone. In my mind that stands up to any financial analysis. You did say you worked in the City didn't you? Were you very successful? Sorry, no need to answer that. Not sure I agree with your savings, even so how much of that is genuine discretionary spend and how much is used to offset the costs such as stimulus packages, tariff offsets, tax cuts or promises to retain existing spending? No matter how you play with the figures, it is a huge cost saving to leave, and easily offsets the 6 billion.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 22, 2019 19:44:27 GMT
Not sure I agree with your savings, even so how much of that is genuine discretionary spend and how much is used to offset the costs such as stimulus packages, tariff offsets, tax cuts or promises to retain existing spending? No matter how you play with the figures, it is a huge cost saving to leave, and easily offsets the 6 billion. I see you missed my point.
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