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Post by gasofsomerset on Aug 5, 2018 16:13:06 GMT
Do people realise that he scored 5 goals last season where he was being played in a complete different position to how we would play him?
The guy hasn’t even worn the shirt and people are already disregarding him. How many people didn’t rate Ellis originally because I can sure remember people moaning and groaning at the mem not even two years ago.
If people weren’t so judgemental and opinionated I’m sure we would have had that Rhys Healey from Cardiff since that was pretty much confirmed from multiple sources, but then the player him self ‘liked’ a tweet on Twitter about how our fans love to moan about future signings and nothing came from it.
Get behind your team ffs
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Post by pirate on Aug 5, 2018 16:17:33 GMT
In laymans terms, its basically a cart horse isn't it? NO. Can tell you are not a racing man. A young raw male animal who in time will mature and could be very useful. Or the Collins dictionary definition; 'A young person or animal that is coltish is full of energy but clumsy or awkward, because they lack physical skill or control.'
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 16:23:44 GMT
Do people realise that he scored 5 goals last season where he was being played in a complete different position to how we would play him? The guy hasn’t even worn the shirt and people are already disregarding him. How many people didn’t rate Ellis originally because I can sure remember people moaning and groaning at the mem not even two years ago. If people weren’t so judgemental and opinionated I’m sure we would have had that Rhys Healey from Cardiff since that was pretty much confirmed from multiple sources, but then the player him self ‘liked’ a tweet on Twitter about how our fans love to moan about future signings and nothing came from it. Get behind your team ffs Do you really believe some comments on twitter really frighten Healey off? Blaming twitter comments for the difficulty we seem to have in attracting players is really pointing the blame in the wrong direction I think.
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Post by pirate on Aug 5, 2018 16:27:08 GMT
If people weren’t so judgemental and opinionated I’m sure we would have had that Rhys Healey from Cardiff since that was pretty much confirmed from multiple sources, but then the player him self ‘liked’ a tweet on Twitter about how our fans love to moan about future signings and nothing came from it. If he is that weak mentally perhaps it's for the best that he didn't join. Listen, it's a football forum and people are allowed to state an opinion on players whether they play for us or not, you may not like those opinions and disagree, but it's a game of opinions and we aren't always going to agree and wave our pom poms and pretend otherwise. Even if we dont particularly rate a certain player or whatever, that doesn't mean those players won't have our full support on a matchday I might add!
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 5, 2018 16:28:52 GMT
Do people realise that he scored 5 goals last season where he was being played in a complete different position to how we would play him? The guy hasn’t even worn the shirt and people are already disregarding him. How many people didn’t rate Ellis originally because I can sure remember people moaning and groaning at the mem not even two years ago. If people weren’t so judgemental and opinionated I’m sure we would have had that Rhys Healey from Cardiff since that was pretty much confirmed from multiple sources, but then the player him self ‘liked’ a tweet on Twitter about how our fans love to moan about future signings and nothing came from it. Get behind your team ffs Do you really believe some comments on twitter really frighten Healey off? Blaming twitter comments for the difficulty we seem to have in attracting players is really pointing the blame in the wrong direction I think. Yes I do. If I was a player and had the choice between a few clubs. If one teams fans were slagging me off and fans were saying, no wonder Nichols confidence is shot, why would I pick that club?? Obviously it won't be the only factor, but if it was the choice between 2 similar clubs, I would pick the ones not moaning about me. If he's not bothered, he wouldn't have been looking into us. Every person is different and some people would worry a lot about those comments.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 16:35:01 GMT
Bakayoko was Walsall's young player of the season in 2016/17. He was prolific at youth level and scored a hatrick on his full debut so obviously has goals in him. He may be a 10 goal a season player but could be just what we need. I could see him having a good partnership with Reilly in a sort of Owen and Heskey way! May also help defending crosses. If you are right and he get 10 league goals this season then he will have been value for money. Personally I think you are being optimistic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 16:40:49 GMT
Do you really believe some comments on twitter really frighten Healey off? Blaming twitter comments for the difficulty we seem to have in attracting players is really pointing the blame in the wrong direction I think. Yes I do. If I was a player and had the choice between a few clubs. If one teams fans were slagging me off and fans were saying, no wonder Nichols confidence is shot, why would I pick that club?? Obviously it won't be the only factor, but if it was the choice between 2 similar clubs, I would pick the ones not moaning about me. If he's not bothered, he wouldn't have been looking into us. Every person is different and some people would worry a lot about those comments. I think this is getting silly, firstly Healey turns us down due to twitter comments and now Nichol's form is a result of the forum slagging him off. So if we say we like a player very much do you think that would seal a transfer deal or make a poor player good. Oh that life was so simple.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 16:50:37 GMT
Do people realise that he scored 5 goals last season where he was being played in a complete different position to how we would play him? The guy hasn’t even worn the shirt and people are already disregarding him. How many people didn’t rate Ellis originally because I can sure remember people moaning and groaning at the mem not even two years ago. If people weren’t so judgemental and opinionated I’m sure we would have had that Rhys Healey from Cardiff since that was pretty much confirmed from multiple sources, but then the player him self ‘liked’ a tweet on Twitter about how our fans love to moan about future signings and nothing came from it. Get behind your team ffs Do you really believe some comments on twitter really frighten Healey off? Blaming twitter comments for the difficulty we seem to have in attracting players is really pointing the blame in the wrong direction I think. I know, it's hilarious isn't it? The bottom line is that if the money was good enough he would be a Rovers player no matter what the fans said about him.
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Post by madgas on Aug 5, 2018 16:51:20 GMT
From the Sheffield fans I know- they’d drive him elsewhere. Watched a lot of him have they? he didn’t play many games for the first team, but they watch a more friendlies than I do. I’m just saying thats their overall opinion of him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 16:52:42 GMT
If people weren’t so judgemental and opinionated I’m sure we would have had that Rhys Healey from Cardiff since that was pretty much confirmed from multiple sources, but then the player him self ‘liked’ a tweet on Twitter about how our fans love to moan about future signings and nothing came from it. If he is that weak mentally perhaps it's for the best that he didn't join. Listen, it's a football forum and people are allowed to state an opinion on players whether they play for us or not, you may not like those opinions and disagree, but it's a game of opinions and we aren't always going to agree and wave our pom poms and pretend otherwise. Even if we dont particularly rate a certain player or whatever, that doesn't mean those players won't have our full support on a matchday I might add! Mentally weak is spot on. You would fear for him on a cold Tuesday night away to Sunderland if he can't handle a couple of geezers on the internet questioning his ability.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 16:53:57 GMT
Yes I do. If I was a player and had the choice between a few clubs. If one teams fans were slagging me off and fans were saying, no wonder Nichols confidence is shot, why would I pick that club?? Obviously it won't be the only factor, but if it was the choice between 2 similar clubs, I would pick the ones not moaning about me. If he's not bothered, he wouldn't have been looking into us. Every person is different and some people would worry a lot about those comments. I think this is getting silly, firstly Healey turns us down due to twitter comments and now Nichol's form is a result of the forum slagging him off. So if we say we like a player very much do you think that would seal a transfer deal or make a poor player good. Oh that life was so simple. Hahaha good point, let's all see if we can use the power of prayer to turn Nichols into a 30 goal a season striker...
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Post by madgas on Aug 5, 2018 16:54:12 GMT
i still think we might see 4 new signings before the window shuts.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 5, 2018 16:59:46 GMT
i still think we might see 4 new signings before the window shuts. Get Pirate to go through 74 pages of wishlist players, tell them all they are the next Messi, that we will all love them unconditionally and we may well see some lovely new faces next week
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 17:01:40 GMT
And for the record I don't think anyone means to write this guy off- he just appears on paper at least to be a massive gamble for the price being asked for him.
Imo Walsall have got some nerve trying to get a fee at all as he is clearly surplus to requirements. I don't have any names to hand but I bet Pirate could furnish us with some other names in the 150-200k bracket to show us what we could get for that money and I bet it makes our business look even worse than it already does.
Reilly and Nichols as yet have done nothing at this level in a Rovers shirt so the idea of getting a striker in to help them score goals feels like choosing the mansion you will buy when you win the lottery before you have even bought a ticket.
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Post by pirate on Aug 5, 2018 17:06:24 GMT
Watched a lot of him have they? he didn’t play many games for the first team, but they watch a more friendlies than I do. I’m just saying thats their overall opinion of him. I'll stick with my own opinion and more importantly the likes of Gary Bowyer who rates him highly and Chris Wilder who spent £400k on him and doesn't want to let him go permanently yet because he thinks he might yet still have something to offer at Championship level. He has only made one first appearance for them and that was described as "assured" in his local press. He is a class act and would've been ideal in my opinion.
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Post by bluestone on Aug 5, 2018 17:07:28 GMT
Everyone's a bloody expert it seems.
Can't we just welcome the lad to the club and give him a chance ffs. He hasn't even been officially announced, I'd laugh my socks off of it turns out to be someone else!
I feel quite sorry for any new player that joins Bristol Rovers. We like to think we're some of the best fans in the world but if the views of many on this forum are representative of the wider fanbase then sadly we are not imo.
Moan, moan, moan, moan, moan.
Well if it's ok with you I will put my trust in DC and MS rather than you so called "experts".
They may not have got it right with all our signings (Nichols being the obvious recent example) but they've not done bad job overall.
All of our players that have moved up to the championship over the last 2 seasons (Bodin, Ellis, Snake) are talent that were developed under the stewardship of DC and Bristol Rovers Football Club and there are many others still in our current squad that have been developed into decent L1 players as well (Sincs, OClarke, Leads, JClarke Locks).
Whether you like it or not, this is how it is going to be, no marquee signings, but spotting raw talent that needs to be nurtured and developed (Mensah, Partington, Broadbent) or finding someone that has fallen out of favour at their current club (Bennett, Craig).
So if you want to support BRFC then please quit griping and moaning and get behind the strategy. So many people on here presume to know that DC is not happy with the backing he is getting (blah blah blah etc.) but not long ago he signed a 5 year contract extension remember?!
Rant over......
Trust in DC and Up The Gas!
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Post by madgas on Aug 5, 2018 17:16:55 GMT
he didn’t play many games for the first team, but they watch a more friendlies than I do. I’m just saying thats their overall opinion of him. I'll stick with my own opinion and more importantly the likes of Gary Bowyer who rates him highly and Chris Wilder who spent £400k on him and doesn't want to let him go permanently yet because he thinks he might yet still have something to offer at Championship level. He has only made one first appearance for them and that was described as "assured" in his local press. He is a class act and would've been ideal in my opinion. I think when you spend 400k you have to back the player. I’m not knocking the guy and would support him had he came here. But per you- wilder doesn’t him leaving on a perm, then we’re not a likely good fit. We have 5 CBs. Ones the club captain, the other is experienced pro. We’re not a good a fit. Here, come on loan and fight to second choice?
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Post by pirate on Aug 5, 2018 17:21:34 GMT
I'll stick with my own opinion and more importantly the likes of Gary Bowyer who rates him highly and Chris Wilder who spent £400k on him and doesn't want to let him go permanently yet because he thinks he might yet still have something to offer at Championship level. He has only made one first appearance for them and that was described as "assured" in his local press. He is a class act and would've been ideal in my opinion. I think when you spend 400k you have to back the player. I’m not knocking the guy and would support him had he came here. But per you- wilder doesn’t him leaving on a perm, then we’re not a likely good fit. We have 5 CBs. Ones the club captain, the other is experienced pro. We’re not a good a fit. Here, come on loan and fight to second choice? Who is to say Wilder's opinion won't change in January or at the end of the season? All I know is I would've liked him here and would have him in the team ahead of Craig, or even play him, Craig and Locks in a 3. Edit: It doesn't matter now anyway, he's a Blackpool player until the end of the season (barring any return clauses) and it looks like we will be going with what we have in central defence. Hopefully the new defensive coach can have impact and we can stop conceding such soft goals.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 17:25:45 GMT
Not slagging the player off - I’ll give him a chance but I’m definitely very unhappy with the club. They can consider themselves very lucky to have my £300 this year! The rovers I fell in love with seem to have disappeared and I’m fed up of being fed rubbish, treated like sh*t and taken advantage of as a fan. Plus evolution is boring as hell! I really hope I feel more positive come next Saturday but at present I am not looking forward to watching this squad. Seems like it’s going to be a drag of a season! I’m feeling less and less passionate for rovers Which is very odd for me. It’s like something in me knows I’m being played with and wants to stand up and say no more, that’s it! Weird one! stay away then, your negativity won’t be missed 👍 true they will make enough of that themselves this year! 😜
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Post by strads1983 on Aug 5, 2018 18:43:40 GMT
i still think we might see 4 new signings before the window shuts. I suppose you are named madgas for a reason! Love the optimism 👍🏼
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