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Post by costahotshot on Aug 7, 2018 17:45:00 GMT
If any prospective signing looked at this forum first they would run a mile, he hasn’t even signed yet and some are already writing him off. Let’s be positive and get behind him (should he actually sign) and the rest of the team. UTG
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Post by pirate on Aug 7, 2018 17:47:22 GMT
He scored 2 penalties last season as far as I'm aware, both in the league, so 9 goals from 38 games from open play. 16 goals in 64 games in total for Shrews. 2 in 36 for Gills. 2 in 13 for ebbsfleet. 0 in 12 for Barnsley and a 1 in 3 record in non-league for Dover. Jack Marriott only got 8 in League 2 the season before he signed for Peterborough. I know.
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 7, 2018 17:49:03 GMT
If any prospective signing looked at this forum first they would run a mile, he hasn’t even signed yet and some are already writing him off. Let’s be positive and get behind him (should he actually sign) and the rest of the team. UTG its ok some people think we’re Barca
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 17:49:12 GMT
Put the needle on the record Gasheads! R-R-R-R-R-R-Repeat. Seriously take a look back through new signing threads and all this has been done to death!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 17:52:56 GMT
Ah yes. Penalties don't count. Your words, not mine. tbones words, tbf
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 7, 2018 17:53:20 GMT
Put the needle on the record Gasheads! R-R-R-R-R-R-Repeat. Seriously take a look back through new signing threads and all this has been done to death! Indeed. Too old/too young/too small/ too cheap/too expensive/not this//not that etc etc. Cut and paste to suit.....apply to each and any thread. Geez....always thought the best managers/coaches were on the terraces. Guess it’s true.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 7, 2018 17:53:48 GMT
"Post by South Stand Salopian on 3 minutes ago
Got to laugh at Bristol Rovers fans getting too excited on Twitter it’s absolutely hilarious and if we get £400k for him it would be even more hilarious. "
Maybe they should have a read of this place!
I also doubt we're buying this guy for 400K given 150K was our limit on Bakayoko and we wanted him before we wanted Payne?
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Aug 7, 2018 17:54:12 GMT
Jack Marriott only got 8 in League 2 the season before he signed for Peterborough. I know. But you clearly listed his goal record in that way to infer that it isn't that good. 'Non-League Dover' for example. Just pointed out nor was Marriott's.
No doubt all your recommendations would have been better choices though.
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Post by bylekennet on Aug 7, 2018 17:56:14 GMT
No one will be thinking about Ellis come Saturday when Super Stefan Payne scores a 90th minute winner against Accy send them all home in tears, thatchers end belting out up the football league we go.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 7, 2018 17:59:19 GMT
Jack Marriott only got 8 in League 2 the season before he signed for Peterborough. I know. Jack Marriott was only 21/22 during that season in L2 and is clearly still improving; Payne is 27 on Friday.
Also, as I keep saying, it's not all about goals. Harrison was strong, powerful and good in the air. He could hold the ball up or travel 50 yards in possession like at Doncaster. He had fantastic work rate, tracked back and headed more set pieces out of our box than both our centre backs. From what I've read on the Shrews forum Payne ticks none of those boxes. As I've said, hopefully he proves me wrong, we certainly need someone new up front.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 7, 2018 18:03:08 GMT
Jack Marriott was only 21/22 during that season in L2 and is clearly still improving; Payne is 27 on Friday.
Also, as I keep saying, it's not all about goals. Harrison was strong, powerful and good in the air. He could hold the ball up or travel 50 yards in possession like at Doncaster. He had fantastic work rate, tracked back and headed more set pieces out of our box than both our centre backs. From what I've read on the Shrews forum Payne tocks none of those boxes.
So he travelled 50 yards in possession once? Add it to the list of things he's good at. Payne didn't need to head set pieces out of the Shrews box as they had a fantastic defence. The fact is us and Shrews are two very different teams and he'll fit in differently here than he did at Shrews.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 18:06:47 GMT
Jack Marriott was only 21/22 during that season in L2 and is clearly still improving; Payne is 27 on Friday.
Also, as I keep saying, it's not all about goals. Harrison was strong, powerful and good in the air. He could hold the ball up or travel 50 yards in possession like at Doncaster. He had fantastic work rate, tracked back and headed more set pieces out of our box than both our centre backs. From what I've read on the Shrews forum Payne tocks none of those boxes.
So he travelled 50 yards in possession once? Add it to the list of things he's good at. Payne didn't need to head set pieces out of the Shrews box as they had a fantastic defence. The fact is us and Shrews are two very different teams and he'll fit in differently here than he did at Shrews. Exactly, if your striker does that much defensive work......buy better centre backs.
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Aug 7, 2018 18:08:58 GMT
Jack Marriott was only 21/22 during that season in L2 and is clearly still improving; Payne is 27 on Friday.
Also, as I keep saying, it's not all about goals. Harrison was strong, powerful and good in the air. He could hold the ball up or travel 50 yards in possession like at Doncaster. He had fantastic work rate, tracked back and headed more set pieces out of our box than both our centre backs. From what I've read on the Shrews forum Payne tocks none of those boxes.
Half of our fans thought Harrison was lazy.
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Post by gonzales on Aug 7, 2018 18:10:12 GMT
Cos we were never in for Bakayoko, someone made it up and everyone believed it.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 7, 2018 18:11:05 GMT
Many strikers have come to us over the years with little or no track record to shout about and ended up moving on to greater things , no reason why Stefan shouldn't be another one to benefit from a spell with our unique club, so if we get this one over the line a warm welcome to him and a promise we will ALL get behind him so he can improve ,feel valued ,and move forward together , up the Rovers!
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Post by holmesgas1 on Aug 7, 2018 18:13:08 GMT
Jack Marriott was only 21/22 during that season in L2 and is clearly still improving; Payne is 27 on Friday.
Also, as I keep saying, it's not all about goals. Harrison was strong, powerful and good in the air. He could hold the ball up or travel 50 yards in possession like at Doncaster. He had fantastic work rate, tracked back and headed more set pieces out of our box than both our centre backs. From what I've read on the Shrews forum Payne tocks none of those boxes.
I liked Ellis, but let’s stop thinking he was “all powerful”. He was great at defensive headers, but how often did he score goals with head, rare. Often his first touch was poor, and yes he could run with the ball but often into blind alleys. He has bags of potential, and hopefully he comes championship material. At the moment he is just a good league 1 striker. Payne, who knows, but he knows where the net is, and in this crazy world of over inflated prices, probably about as good as were going to get if you want somebody with experience, so let’s give him a chance.
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Post by bluestone on Aug 7, 2018 18:14:05 GMT
Anyone else have a feeling of de-ja-vu?
I'm sure we've been here before recently.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 7, 2018 18:14:41 GMT
Jack Marriott was only 21/22 during that season in L2 and is clearly still improving; Payne is 27 on Friday.
Also, as I keep saying, it's not all about goals. Harrison was strong, powerful and good in the air. He could hold the ball up or travel 50 yards in possession like at Doncaster. He had fantastic work rate, tracked back and headed more set pieces out of our box than both our centre backs. From what I've read on the Shrews forum Payne tocks none of those boxes.
So he travelled 50 yards in possession once? Add it to the list of things he's good at. Payne didn't need to head set pieces out of the Shrews box as they had a fantastic defence. The fact is us and Shrews are two very different teams and he'll fit in differently here than he did at Shrews. Its almost as of two different managers migbt have two different ideas Football fans though are myopic and one dimensional
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 7, 2018 18:15:33 GMT
Whereas Harrison also took penalties for us, and his scoring record wasn't great either. You rate Harrison, whereas I wasn't overly fussed about losing him. The guy above doesn't rate Payne, but the next poster to comment clearly does "I'm genuinely gutted by this, I think Payne is the most natural finisher we have especially if playing with only one up front.... We have no other proven goalscorer at football league level I really hope we have a big player coming in " Was disappointed we were signing Bakayoko and had no problem with missing out on him. Much happier about Payne, and at least we have got someone decent in. Not sure Harrison scored any penalties for us last season, could be wrong. Think Bodin took them until January and then Lines.
He might have nearly matched Harrisons goal return but other than his goals what else does he offer. Based on Shrews comments very little.
What else do we need a striker to do but put the ball in the net? Plus if he's 6'2" then surely he can win to odd header and so bring other players into the attack and also help out on corners etc. Anyway if he's so poor why was he given the No 9 shirt then start and play 80 odd minutes for Shrewsbury on Saturday.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 7, 2018 18:17:56 GMT
Jack Marriott was only 21/22 during that season in L2 and is clearly still improving; Payne is 27 on Friday.
Also, as I keep saying, it's not all about goals. Harrison was strong, powerful and good in the air. He could hold the ball up or travel 50 yards in possession like at Doncaster. He had fantastic work rate, tracked back and headed more set pieces out of our box than both our centre backs. From what I've read on the Shrews forum Payne tocks none of those boxes.
So he travelled 50 yards in possession once? Add it to the list of things he's good at. Payne didn't need to head set pieces out of the Shrews box as they had a fantastic defence. The fact is us and Shrews are two very different teams and he'll fit in differently here than he did at Shrews. Actually he did it a number of times. I remember a goal he scored at Rotherham not long after his debut I think. He didn't always score but he brought so much to the team. In my opinion Payne is not really what we're looking for. As you pointed out Shrewsbury don't need him to head away set pieces, we do. We certainly need him to hold up the ball and bring others into play which according to Shrews he's not very good at.
They don't seem to rate him:
"A funny one this, but despite his goals I’ve always thought Payne was generally quite s**te. He never looked like a thorn in anyone’s side and never did you feel great expectation when bringing him off the bench. He always seems to be struggling for form."
Of course he'll get my full support on match days if he does sign and I'll be more than happy to eat some humble pie if he proves me wrong.
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