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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 10:52:48 GMT
Right wing bigot. Just for balance. Now that is 😂. Bang out of line. Those scales of yours are mightily leaning towards the left as you are standing. I will tell you I am as far from the far right wing as I am from the far left but don’t let the educated on here know this will you as it won’t wash. I do detest Labour with a passion tho, that I will readily admit to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 10:53:40 GMT
Right wing bigot. Just for balance. So that is the password?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 10:56:40 GMT
Who is talking about what is best for YOUR country? You are not patriotic so obviously does not apply to you. And try as I might I can’t recall claiming any moral superiority over anyone or anything, but this is you all over. Can I suggest you go out for s stroll every now and then and get some fresh air? Perhaps you’ll feel better and less angry after puffing out all that hot air and breathing in some fresh clean air like I do. Typical Who are you to claim I am not patriotic? You know nothing about me, my past, my life, nothing. So, let's go back to your assertion that you want what's best for my country. What is Best, by your definition. Give it a try. Theres a relief, you had me worried for a minute. So, Where have I claimed some sort of moral superiority?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 11:05:46 GMT
Typical Who are you to claim I am not patriotic? You know nothing about me, my past, my life, nothing. So, let's go back to your assertion that you want what's best for my country. What is Best, by your definition. Give it a try. Theres a relief, you had me worried for a minute. So, Where have I claimed some sort of moral superiority? Here. You said I am still trying to work out why being patriotic and passionate about your country and wanting the best for your country makes you a racist and/or fascist. Of course people are only labelled this by left wing Labour voters. All very odd. To which I asked Not odd at all. It's your view of what's best for my country I object to. I think, have you actually elaborated what's "best" for my country? Other than some innate self obsessed moral superiority, how can you claim to want what's best for my country, without actually articulating what you think the "Best" is? Well??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 11:11:40 GMT
Theres a relief, you had me worried for a minute. So, Where have I claimed some sort of moral superiority? Here. You said I am still trying to work out why being patriotic and passionate about your country and wanting the best for your country makes you a racist and/or fascist. Of course people are only labelled this by left wing Labour voters. All very odd. To which I asked Not odd at all. It's your view of what's best for my country I object to. I think, have you actually elaborated what's "best" for my country? Other than some innate self obsessed moral superiority, how can you claim to want what's best for my country, without actually articulating what you think the "Best" is? Well?? I asked a simple question which you choose to complicate with your wannabe politician attitude. Just ask the question and the one before, there’s a good chap. I haven’t got long I have horses to excercise...,,
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 12, 2018 11:25:05 GMT
Right wing bigot. Just for balance. Now that is 😂. Bang out of line. Those scales of yours are mightily leaning towards the left as you are standing. I will tell you I am as far from the far right wing as I am from the far left but don’t let the educated on here know this will you as it won’t wash. I do detest Labour with a passion tho, that I will readily admit to. Hey, I hate the Tories but I'd say I'm very centre but slightly left leaning. You sort of prove my point! Instead of arguing, there is probably a lot we agree on!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 11:31:16 GMT
Here. You said I am still trying to work out why being patriotic and passionate about your country and wanting the best for your country makes you a racist and/or fascist. Of course people are only labelled this by left wing Labour voters. All very odd. To which I asked Not odd at all. It's your view of what's best for my country I object to. I think, have you actually elaborated what's "best" for my country? Other than some innate self obsessed moral superiority, how can you claim to want what's best for my country, without actually articulating what you think the "Best" is? Well?? I asked a simple question which you choose to complicate with your wannabe politician attitude. Just ask the question and the one before, there’s a good chap. I haven’t got long I have horses to excercise...,, I see you incapable. Either a lack of intellect or lack of vocabulary. Explains you base views.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 12:30:57 GMT
Now that is 😂. Bang out of line. Those scales of yours are mightily leaning towards the left as you are standing. I will tell you I am as far from the far right wing as I am from the far left but don’t let the educated on here know this will you as it won’t wash. I do detest Labour with a passion tho, that I will readily admit to. Hey, I hate the Tories but I'd say I'm very centre but slightly left leaning. You sort of prove my point! Instead of arguing, there is probably a lot we agree on! That is probably true. A balance in life somewhere in the middle would suit me fine but that will never happen as times have changed, unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 12:34:29 GMT
I asked a simple question which you choose to complicate with your wannabe politician attitude. Just ask the question and the one before, there’s a good chap. I haven’t got long I have horses to excercise...,, I see you incapable. Either a lack of intellect or lack of vocabulary. Explains you base views. What do you mean ‘ explains you base views? You pick me up on my vocabulary but can’t see your own!! My lack of intellect is a valid point as is my vocabulary but my main weakness is not wanting to write an essay just because I ask a simple question! I can’t stop the farrier is on his way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 13:15:59 GMT
I see you incapable. Either a lack of intellect or lack of vocabulary. Explains you base views. What do you mean ‘ explains you base views? You pick me up on my vocabulary but can’t see your own!! My lack of intellect is a valid point as is my vocabulary but my main weakness is not wanting to write an essay just because I ask a simple question! I can’t stop the farrier is on his way. Right. Well that's a brutally honest self assessment. My apologies.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 12, 2018 14:14:07 GMT
Hey, I hate the Tories but I'd say I'm very centre but slightly left leaning. You sort of prove my point! Instead of arguing, there is probably a lot we agree on! That is probably true. A balance in life somewhere in the middle would suit me fine but that will never happen as times have changed, unfortunately. Agreed times have changed but thats all the more reason to want to change them back. People like the EDL and people like ANTFA need to be hounded out by all normal people,not congratulated and put on a pedestal. The current Labour party should be binned off from top to bottom and start again so that if we must insist on having 2 party politics in this country, at least both parties are semi reasonable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 15:41:20 GMT
What do you mean ‘ explains you base views? You pick me up on my vocabulary but can’t see your own!! My lack of intellect is a valid point as is my vocabulary but my main weakness is not wanting to write an essay just because I ask a simple question! I can’t stop the farrier is on his way. Right. Well that's a brutally honest self assessment. My apologies. I am nothing if not honest. No need for an apology we all know the score when going on forums.
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Post by aghast on Oct 12, 2018 21:04:40 GMT
I am still trying to work out why being patriotic and passionate about your country and wanting the best for your country makes you a racist and/or fascist. Of course people are only labelled this by left wing Labour voters. All very odd. You haven't answered Oldie's point, but have danced around it for a while. What views about patriotism and wanting the best for your country do you hold, that, in your opinion, make left wing Labour voters wrongly lable you a racist and/or a fascist? Very hard to judge whether the left wingers are wrong, unless you tell us about the bits of your beliefs you think they are actually getting wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 21:37:47 GMT
I am still trying to work out why being patriotic and passionate about your country and wanting the best for your country makes you a racist and/or fascist. Of course people are only labelled this by left wing Labour voters. All very odd. You haven't answered Oldie's point, but have danced around it for a while. What views about patriotism and wanting the best for your country do you hold, that, in your opinion, make left wing Labour voters wrongly lable you a racist and/or a fascist? Very hard to judge whether the left wingers are wrong, unless you tell us about the bits of your beliefs you think they are actually getting wrong. Which was my point Aghast. But it seems that Quantocks has admitted his knowledge is limited and the ability to express himself even more so. If I was harsh, I would say this applies to most with Alt Right views. Cue indignation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 22:51:05 GMT
I am still trying to work out why being patriotic and passionate about your country and wanting the best for your country makes you a racist and/or fascist. Of course people are only labelled this by left wing Labour voters. All very odd. You haven't answered Oldie's point, but have danced around it for a while. What views about patriotism and wanting the best for your country do you hold, that, in your opinion, make left wing Labour voters wrongly lable you a racist and/or a fascist? Very hard to judge whether the left wingers are wrong, unless you tell us about the bits of your beliefs you think they are actually getting wrong. What are you on about? I asked a question, the same one you quoted, and Oldie replied with his typical question not answer. I asked the question and welcome an answer then I may put my view over. I haven’t danced around oldies question to me, I have flatly ignored it because of his reply. Just like I am going to ignore you. Now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 22:56:23 GMT
You haven't answered Oldie's point, but have danced around it for a while. What views about patriotism and wanting the best for your country do you hold, that, in your opinion, make left wing Labour voters wrongly lable you a racist and/or a fascist? Very hard to judge whether the left wingers are wrong, unless you tell us about the bits of your beliefs you think they are actually getting wrong. Which was my point Aghast. But it seems that Quantocks has admitted his knowledge is limited and the ability to express himself even more so. If I was harsh, I would say this applies to most with Alt Right views. Cue indignation. 🦕
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 23:04:16 GMT
Which was my point Aghast. But it seems that Quantocks has admitted his knowledge is limited and the ability to express himself even more so. If I was harsh, I would say this applies to most with Alt Right views. Cue indignation. 🦕 Them, if you won't let it go, respond to Aghast.
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 12, 2018 23:27:01 GMT
You haven't answered Oldie's point, but have danced around it for a while. What views about patriotism and wanting the best for your country do you hold, that, in your opinion, make left wing Labour voters wrongly lable you a racist and/or a fascist? Very hard to judge whether the left wingers are wrong, unless you tell us about the bits of your beliefs you think they are actually getting wrong. What are you on about? I asked a question, the same one you quoted, and Oldie replied with his typical question not answer. I asked the question and welcome an answer then I may put my view over. I haven’t danced around oldies question to me, I have flatly ignored it because of his reply. Just like I am going to ignore you. Now. The problem is if people flatly ignore others and do not engage in meaningful dialogue then it leaves the parties with a false image of the other, further entrenchment of views hardens the beliefs and before long the whole message is lost. If people don't explain then their points of view then you can't then blame the audience for not understanding or failing to agree.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 7:21:01 GMT
What are you on about? I asked a question, the same one you quoted, and Oldie replied with his typical question not answer. I asked the question and welcome an answer then I may put my view over. I haven’t danced around oldies question to me, I have flatly ignored it because of his reply. Just like I am going to ignore you. Now. The problem is if people flatly ignore others and do not engage in meaningful dialogue then it leaves the parties with a false image of the other, further entrenchment of views hardens the beliefs and before long the whole message is lost. If people don't explain then their points of view then you can't then blame the audience for not understanding or failing to agree. I understand what you are saying Stuart but this has generated from a Question I asked which no one has replied to but are more concerned with turning said question on its head, just like politicians oddly enough. I find it hard to believe by the way that there are so many on here who tar Conservative voters with the far right brush. Looking on it, I think it is their ignorant way of justifying the far left which is obviously Labour voters.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 7:23:29 GMT
Them, if you won't let it go, respond to Aghast. You still haven’t responded to my question which was the sole reason for Aghast jumping on my back! Funny that.
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