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Post by baggins on Sept 19, 2018 20:48:03 GMT
It's interesting that we all seem to "know" the above version of the takeover story. It surely can't be a coincidence that this seems to have come out from many "reliable" sources. What none of us know is do the AQs actually want/need to sell? There has to be some reason for all these leaks and it's fair to say it's certainly been damaging to the AQs. All seems a bit underhand to me. Depends on what is best for the club really doesn't it? Hard to see how a lifetime under the Al Qadis is anything but a slow death. We are best having this move go through and taking our chances... Really? Take our chances with a complete unknown over someone we know? That's one hell of a chance.
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Post by dinsdale on Sept 19, 2018 20:48:35 GMT
This is what ive heard (however nobody mentioned Higgs) which matches exactly with what Ed Ware was mooting just after Wael and chums screwed us on uwe and decided to bail. This has been a long time in the offing. I wasnt under the impression that we would own the uwe however but then again the people that build it will own us and as is standard will say we own it but attatch the debt to build it to it. Wael and chums screwed us on UWE? What's that supposed to mean? They stopped it from happening, my apologies for inflammatory language.
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Post by dinsdale on Sept 19, 2018 20:49:58 GMT
Depends on what is best for the club really doesn't it? Hard to see how a lifetime under the Al Qadis is anything but a slow death. We are best having this move go through and taking our chances... Really? Take our chances with a complete unknown over someone we know? That's one hell of a chance. We do know them (at least some) we need uwe to stay alive would be depressing to see the old board back though
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 19, 2018 20:51:55 GMT
Depends on what is best for the club really doesn't it? Hard to see how a lifetime under the Al Qadis is anything but a slow death. We are best having this move go through and taking our chances... Really? Take our chances with a complete unknown over someone we know? That's one hell of a chance. I'd rather take the risk on someone that MIGHT be ambitious compared to staying with someone we know that isn't!
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Post by axegas on Sept 19, 2018 20:52:41 GMT
It's interesting that we all seem to "know" the above version of the takeover story. It surely can't be a coincidence that this seems to have come out from many "reliable" sources. What none of us know is do the AQs actually want/need to sell? There has to be some reason for all these leaks and it's fair to say it's certainly been damaging to the AQs. All seems a bit underhand to me. Depends on what is best for the club really doesn't it? Hard to see how a lifetime under the Al Qadis is anything but a slow death. We are best having this move go through and taking our chances... Gradual improvement doesn't lead to a slow death. I really do get that people are frustrated with the pace of what the Al Qadis are putting into place and their vagueness about the future but based on what they've implemented so far, our prospects are a hell of a lot better than they were under Higgs and co with their dodgy Wonga loans and lengthy court cases.
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Post by tylerdunnell03 on Sept 19, 2018 20:54:13 GMT
Depends on what is best for the club really doesn't it? Hard to see how a lifetime under the Al Qadis is anything but a slow death. We are best having this move go through and taking our chances... Gradual improvement doesn't lead to a slow death. I really do get that people are frustrated with the pace of what the Al Qadis are putting into place and their vagueness about the future but based on what they've implemented so far, our prospects are a hell of a lot better than they were under Higgs and co with their dodgy Wonga loans and lengthy court cases. Agree but the owners intentions are to develop the mem,.. how are we meant to progress like that
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Post by baggins on Sept 19, 2018 21:10:48 GMT
Wael and chums screwed us on UWE? What's that supposed to mean? They stopped it from happening, my apologies for inflammatory language. Did they?
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Post by baggins on Sept 19, 2018 21:11:35 GMT
Really? Take our chances with a complete unknown over someone we know? That's one hell of a chance. I'd rather take the risk on someone that MIGHT be ambitious compared to staying with someone we know that isn't! That's one big risk.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 19, 2018 21:15:07 GMT
Still nothing from current board putting rumours to bed. Would be a simple to do.
Reason to believe something might be happening.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 21:17:30 GMT
Deal to sell club is virtually a done deal. New owners will be a construction company from Hampshire plus Ed Ware and Nick Higgs like I mentioned earlier. Stadium back on course with a better deal than previous. Construction company will build stadium at no cost to club who will own it in exchange for Mem. They will cover costs by building a large number of houses on Mem site. Wael to retain 10% shares. That is what I heard today, not sure how accurate...dont shoot the messenger! This is what ive heard (however nobody mentioned Higgs) which matches exactly with what Ed Ware was mooting just after Wael and chums screwed us on uwe and decided to bail. This has been a long time in the offing. I wasnt under the impression that we would own the uwe however but then again the people that build it will own us and as is standard will say we own it but attatch the debt to build it to it. Carstairs will be drooling like a rabid dog when the news reaches the burbs.
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Post by baggins on Sept 19, 2018 21:17:40 GMT
Still nothing from current board putting rumours to bed. Would be a simple to do. Reason to believe something might be happening. Or not.
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Post by aghast on Sept 19, 2018 22:22:59 GMT
Basically how i see it is remnants of the old board were cheesed off seeig UWE fall through especially with the dodgy reasoning provided. Almost immediately they were putting the case for how this could be delivered and having seen the new board move from being the people who were going to make uwe a reality to the current situation. We all know the old board used to leak like crazy so that makes sense with this also. We have never been provided with an explanation about why the deal wasn't right. Just that it wasn't. Presumably, though, it all hinged upon the money from Sainsburys. Without that, the huge gap in funding would mean a group of bankers would not see a return for far too many years. But that begs the question about why Wael said the finance was in place to build a new stadium. It clearly wasn't, so far as I can see, so he was either mistaken or lying. I prefer to think that he always planned for a group of new investors to come along and fund it. The original plan fell through, and finally now he has found some people who are willing to invest, but, given that we are far more heavily in debt than we were when he took over, their position is much stronger and his ownership of the club is either being rejected or reduced to a small 10% holding.
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 19, 2018 22:29:51 GMT
Gradual improvement doesn't lead to a slow death. I really do get that people are frustrated with the pace of what the Al Qadis are putting into place and their vagueness about the future but based on what they've implemented so far, our prospects are a hell of a lot better than they were under Higgs and co with their dodgy Wonga loans and lengthy court cases. Agree but the owners intentions are to develop the mem,.. how are we meant to progress like that How do you know that?? All we have been told is, they are looking into a number of options.
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Post by Quartermaster on Sept 20, 2018 5:01:55 GMT
Still nothing from current board putting rumours to bed. Would be a simple to do. Reason to believe something might be happening. Odd, given their excellent record for communicating with the fans...
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Post by singupgas on Sept 20, 2018 6:48:47 GMT
Still nothing from current board putting rumours to bed. Would be a simple to do. Reason to believe something might be happening. Odd, given their excellent record for communicating with the fans... Bit different, your customers think you are selling the club, just say they aren't. Could be done in a few sentences on the clubs website.
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 20, 2018 11:24:42 GMT
Odd, given their excellent record for communicating with the fans... Bit different, your customers think you are selling the club, just say they aren't. Could be done in a few sentences on the clubs website. I have heard from my two sources within the club; that rumours off selling the club are not true. in fact the actual words used were "bolloxs" and "horseshit"; if any of the smoke and mirrors gang can quote their anonymous sources I would be interested to hear them
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Post by tomylil on Sept 20, 2018 11:40:28 GMT
Deal to sell club is virtually a done deal. New owners will be a construction company from Hampshire plus Ed Ware and Nick Higgs like I mentioned earlier. Stadium back on course with a better deal than previous. Construction company will build stadium at no cost to club who will own it in exchange for Mem. They will cover costs by building a large number of houses on Mem site. Wael to retain 10% shares. That is what I heard today, not sure how accurate...dont shoot the messenger! Not shooting any messenger.....and fine in theory.... but where does PP sit in all this wheeling and dealing? Surely no one is going to splash the cash without some sort of way ahead with that side of things? Guess with houses all around it shouldn't be an issue but you can never take these things for granted I should think. So.. The construction company gets the Mem and develops it for housing after having paid off the Jersey mob and clearing the charge. They therefore need to generate what, £6m from the land before they start making any money ? Even a dinky little stadium with nothing happening inside will cost about £1.5m per thousand seats so these samaritans will spend about £30m of their hard earned cash and will hand it over to Rovers ? Oh and of course the stadium land will cost..?? Hope this is all correct, but from the outside looking in, what on earth is in it for the suggested new owners, who operate in such a volatile industry..
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Post by EastVanGas on Sept 20, 2018 11:48:13 GMT
Not shooting any messenger.....and fine in theory.... but where does PP sit in all this wheeling and dealing? Surely no one is going to splash the cash without some sort of way ahead with that side of things? Guess with houses all around it shouldn't be an issue but you can never take these things for granted I should think. So.. The construction company gets the Mem and develops it for housing after having paid off the Jersey mob and clearing the charge. They therefore need to generate what, £6m from the land before they start making any money ? Even a dinky little stadium with nothing happening inside will cost about £1.5m per thousand seats so these samaritans will spend about £30m of their hard earned cash and will hand it over to Rovers ? Oh and of course the stadium land will cost..?? Hope this is all correct, but from the outside looking in, what on earth is in it for the suggested new owners, who operate in such a volatile industry.. This sums up my thoughts. Seems to make sense at first glance then when you look a little closer it appears to be unviable. Sounds like a far fetched rumour. While something is clearly going on, I don't feel like what is being discussed is accurate.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Sept 20, 2018 12:01:16 GMT
Bit different, your customers think you are selling the club, just say they aren't. Could be done in a few sentences on the clubs website. I have heard from my two sources within the club; that rumours off selling the club are not true. in fact the actual words used were "bolloxs" and "horseshit"; if any of the smoke and mirrors gang can quote their anonymous sources I would be interested to hear them
Their sources are all the same, *TWITTER*
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 20, 2018 12:14:50 GMT
I have heard from my two sources within the club; that rumours off selling the club are not true. in fact the actual words used were "bolloxs" and "horseshit"; if any of the smoke and mirrors gang can quote their anonymous sources I would be interested to hear them
Their sources are all the same, *TWITTER*
Severncider who suggested the rumours are true even apparently has a Director texting him, I assume if it wasn't true the Director would have warned him to be mindful of what he posts on here, or they'll be a letter in the post telling him not to post total bolloxs. Plus if Wael's not in any talks whatsoever why not just say that either officially, or unofficially to the fans asking him on twitter/Insta, to kill off the rumours given they now seem to be now effecting the playing side of the club?
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