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Post by dexygas on Sept 27, 2018 19:34:47 GMT
They both sound so convincing how on earth can anyone workout who is telling the truth
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 20:12:02 GMT
They both sound so convincing how on earth can anyone workout who is telling the truth More importantly, how does this affect the UK?
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Post by dexygas on Sept 27, 2018 20:20:04 GMT
Kavanaugh found guilty Trumps judgement questioned which in turn accelerates is demise election called Democrats win which causes election in uk Corbyn wins We stay in Europe
That is the best I can do
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 20:23:28 GMT
Kavanaugh found guilty Trumps judgement questioned which in turn accelerates is demise election called Democrats win which causes election in uk Corbyn wins We stay in Europe That is the best I can do I think you need to have a look at yourself. If you want a serious conversation.
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Post by dexygas on Sept 27, 2018 20:28:18 GMT
lol, I thought I did pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 9:57:26 GMT
I also watched the hearing, and yes, both appeared to be very intelligent, convincing and in truth you found yourself believing both of them !
However, you have to question why it has taken so many years for this woman to come out with her complaint. There is no evidence and it's just a case of 'he said she said'. Sounds as though they may have had a teenage drunken fumble, which she has resented all these years. Well, I'm pretty sure that we've all had some teenage drunken fumbles that we've regretted, however, I think it is wrong to try and destroy a man's career after so many years. The whole case is just a political stunt in my view.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 28, 2018 10:23:52 GMT
Yeah it's kinda hard not to think this is a stunt too.
I'm no fan of his, but I'm sure there are not many blokes who haven't had a drunken and sh**ty fumble when we were in our teens.
The thing that makes this different is her assertion that he was threatening towards her. Have to say, I can well believe that and probably should be enough to keep him from this particular appointment.
Is it wrong to say I didn't particularly like either of them?
The whole mess stinks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 10:34:46 GMT
Yeah it's kinda hard not to think this is a stunt too. I'm no fan of his, but I'm sure there are not many blokes who haven't had a drunken and sh**ty fumble when we were in our teens. The thing that makes this different is her assertion that he was threatening towards her. Have to say, I can well believe that and probably should be enough to keep him from this particular appointment. Is it wrong to say I didn't particularly like either of them? The whole mess stinks. I just feel that if she felt what happened was so wrong, then why didn't she report it at the time? Why wait all these years? "but I'm sure there are not many blokes who haven't had a drunken and sh**ty fumble when we were in our teens." - Only Baggins.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 28, 2018 10:53:01 GMT
It's certainly true that it wasn't as much of an acceptable or easy thing to report back then.
Do you think cops back then would have taken her seriously or given a sh**?
You only have to look at the Brock Turner case to see how that went down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 10:55:39 GMT
Just to join in, the whole thing makes for uncomfortable reading / watching. I bought her story that she didn't want to admit being out drinking, and drinking with "boys" led her to not report it. I can't stand Kavanaugh's views, but I don't think he should be hung on a teenage "incident" where no rape occurred.
If someone else comes out and claims something similar later in his life then it's over for him. But in the absence of that the USA will be saddled with a hopelessly conservative Supreme Court who will interprate the 2nd amendment as literally as they will the Old Testament. For years. How long before Roe v Wade reappears.
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Oct 8, 2018 17:17:34 GMT
All this historical stuff is just using up valuable legal, judicial, police and public time. Meanwhile gangs, drugs, plastic pollution, air pollution, overcrowding, poverty and economic stagnation continue to flourish. Nothing to worry about really.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 17:28:44 GMT
All this historical stuff is just using up valuable legal, judicial, police and public time. Meanwhile gangs, drugs, plastic pollution, air pollution, overcrowding, poverty and economic stagnation continue to flourish. Nothing to worry about really. In the States??
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