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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 17:58:41 GMT
Ellis back to us on loan for Christmas?
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 25, 2018 18:11:37 GMT
A bit irrelevant because we don’t have a vacancy and I hope we don’t. DC stuck with us when a big team, Leeds, came calling. Now we’re having a tough patch we should stick with him and with a contact with nearly 3 years to go I think we will.
Istr a thread on here back in the summer about Hurst moving up whilst DC was left stuck in League 1. We certainly don’t need him here, I said it at the time and still think DC is a better manager than Hurst. DCs record is better and he plays a better style of football. (Yes I know it’s tough atm) The way he is supposed to have left Shrewsbury according to Shrews fans (he’d agreed to join Ipswich before their play off final appearance) hasn’t made him very popular and they’re quite happy about what’s happened. Neither do some Grimsby fans have fond memories of him and he never kicked on with them as DC did with us. Perhaps that will teach Ipswich fans to be careful what they wish for.
UTG!
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 25, 2018 18:15:07 GMT
Any league one club who sacks their manager within the next couple of months will be wanting Hurst. He will be at a new club before the end of the year. It’s strange how this time last year we would have been panicking about championship clubs near the bottom of the league wanting DC! As for Ipswich, their fans will now be wanting a big name with championship experience. They won’t be going anywhere near any league one managers! What's he actually achieved at this level, one decent season in Div 1, I'm not sure that's proof he will suddenly turn another Div 1 club around should they appoint him. Oh I totally agree, he has only really had one good season in league one but then clubs don’t seam to look behond that and then the managers go out and buy players after one good season! It’s just the way it goes these days! |
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Post by oldgas on Oct 25, 2018 19:13:28 GMT
A bit irrelevant because we don’t have a vacancy and I hope we don’t. DC stuck with us when a big team, Leeds, came calling. Now we’re having a tough patch we should stick with him and with a contact with nearly 3 years to go I think we will. Istr a thread on here back in the summer about Hurst moving up whilst DC was left stuck in League 1. We certainly don’t need him here, I said it at the time and still think DC is a better manager than Hurst. DCs record is better and he plays a better style of football. (Yes I know it’s tough atm) The way he is supposed to have left Shrewsbury according to Shrews fans (he’d agreed to join Ipswich before their play off final appearance) hasn’t made him very popular and they’re quite happy about what’s happened. Neither do some Grimsby fans have fond memories of him and he never kicked on with them as DC did with us. Perhaps that will teach Ipswich fans to be careful what they wish for. UTG! I should imagine Hurst is about as popular in Shrewsbury as that two-faced arsehole snake is in north and east Bristol. I am still watered off with him because I doubt any other Championship manager would have taken a punt on Ellis, and if we still had him we would probably have several more points on the board. |
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Post by barumgas on Oct 25, 2018 19:24:40 GMT
The signing of Ellis looks like a poor piece of business for them now. Although his settling in and finding a bit of form will obviously have hindered that a bit, it didn’t sound like their fans rated him too much before he got injured. Maybe if he’s not getting game time when he gets fit we could ask about a loan in Jan. We could do with having Ellis back. At least he knows where the back of the net is |
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Post by gregsy on Oct 25, 2018 20:08:23 GMT
I doubt we could afford Harrisons wages even if a loan was available....
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Post by neilv93 on Oct 25, 2018 20:35:48 GMT
Bet they miss ol' Big Nose after all... careful what you wish for etc. I agree. I think it is a perfect example of the saying be careful what you wish for. I found it very strange when he left. Thought he did a great job there and overachieved really, was very unappreciated in my opinion. Sounds incredible to say but I think a lot of Town fans genuinely liked the idea of a relegation battle more than another boring mid-table finish. They wanted some excitement LOL. At least they'll win a few games in L1 next season... |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 25, 2018 20:44:57 GMT
The signing of Ellis looks like a poor piece of business for them now. Although his settling in and finding a bit of form will obviously have hindered that a bit, it didn’t sound like their fans rated him too much before he got injured. Maybe if he’s not getting game time when he gets fit we could ask about a loan in Jan. I think we'd have more of a chance if he was fit now. Chances are a new manager will want to see the whole team and give everyone a chance so doubt they would let him go until the summer. |
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Post by hollyhillgas on Oct 25, 2018 20:51:03 GMT
A bit irrelevant because we don’t have a vacancy and I hope we don’t. DC stuck with us when a big team, Leeds, came calling. Now we’re having a tough patch we should stick with him and with a contact with nearly 3 years to go I think we will. Istr a thread on here back in the summer about Hurst moving up whilst DC was left stuck in League 1. We certainly don’t need him here, I said it at the time and still think DC is a better manager than Hurst. DCs record is better and he plays a better style of football. (Yes I know it’s tough atm) The way he is supposed to have left Shrewsbury according to Shrews fans (he’d agreed to join Ipswich before their play off final appearance) hasn’t made him very popular and they’re quite happy about what’s happened. Neither do some Grimsby fans have fond memories of him and he never kicked on with them as DC did with us. Perhaps that will teach Ipswich fans to be careful what they wish for. UTG! I should imagine Hurst is about as popular in Shrewsbury as that two-faced arsehole snake is in north and east Bristol. I am still watered off with him because I doubt any other Championship manager would have taken a punt on Ellis, and if we still had him we would probably have several more points on the board. Even more watered off he didn't take Payne as well. |
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Post by socrates on Oct 25, 2018 20:54:08 GMT
The signing of Ellis looks like a poor piece of business for them now. Although his settling in and finding a bit of form will obviously have hindered that a bit, it didn’t sound like their fans rated him too much before he got injured. Maybe if he’s not getting game time when he gets fit we could ask about a loan in Jan. I thought Ellis was a poor bit of business from the start for them and us and said at the time he’s an average / poor league 1 striker who got better for one season and got over double figures just about. Should have stayed with us might well have kept improving like he did last season but similar to Taylor in that I can see why he went for the money and a chance in the championship so I don’t blame him for that. I’d have him back in January , maybe their new boss won’t like him and we can. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 23:32:37 GMT
Ellis back to us on loan for Christmas? If we have £8-10k a week to spare on his wages or ipswich pay most of his salary. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 26, 2018 2:07:23 GMT
Don't know if Paul Hurst is available, or even who he is...
But I know that Paul Hirst is available.
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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 26, 2018 2:13:14 GMT
Looks silly now having left Shrewsbury but would have struggled to repeat last seasons form. Not too dissimilar as to when a certain other Paul came here after losing at Wembley. I realise pedants aren't very popular but it was at Old Trafford in front of a staggering 11,484 people. Might as well of held it at Swindon Town.  |
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Post by pirate on Oct 26, 2018 2:21:13 GMT
Don't know if Paul Hurst is available, or even who he is... But I know that Paul Hirst is available. I realise pedants aren't very popular, but Paul Hurst is the former Grimsby, Shrewsbury and now former Ipswich manager. I don't know if Paul Hirst is available, or even who he is.  |
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Post by Gastafari on Oct 26, 2018 3:59:42 GMT
Always going to happen.
They've signed a lot of League 2 and average League 1 players like Ellis.
Signing 1 or 2 good lower league players to join a Championship side could work, but to sign a whole host of them to replace proven Championship players was always going to see them struggle and it's no surprise to see them rock bottom.
By all accounts they're playing decent Football and are more pleasing on the eye than they were under Mick McCarthey, but they're losing every week.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 26, 2018 7:36:59 GMT
Looks silly now having left Shrewsbury but would have struggled to repeat last seasons form. Not too dissimilar as to when a certain other Paul came here after losing at Wembley. I realise pedants aren't very popular but it was at Old Trafford in front of a staggering 11,484 people. Might as well of held it at Swindon Town. Ha, fair enough. Point still stands though. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 26, 2018 8:36:10 GMT
Ellis back to us on loan for Christmas? If we have £8-10k a week to spare on his wages or ipswich pay most of his salary. They couldn't pay £750k up front for him, which is peanuts by championship standards, so I doubt they will allow that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 9:43:59 GMT
Always going to happen. They've signed a lot of League 2 and average League 1 players like Ellis. Signing 1 or 2 good lower league players to join a Championship side could work, but to sign a whole host of them to replace proven Championship players was always going to see them struggle and it's no surprise to see them rock bottom. By all accounts they're playing decent Football and are more pleasing on the eye than they were under Mick McCarthey, but they're losing every week. The last point may be an interesting and timely lesson for those complaining that we were rubbish when we won against Wimbledon! |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 26, 2018 10:04:07 GMT
To be honest, Ipswich have been utterly stagnant for years. I can see what they tried to do with Hurst this summer but the job was too quick for him. He's by no means a bad manager but the book of players he'd have knowledge of are way bellow what is needed for that league. Really, he needed a Sports Director/Director of Football above him to help with recruitment. City had a similar issue when employing Derek McInnes, he's proved himself since at Aberdeen to be a fine manager. I do think Ipswich look doomed this season and Ellis would have probably been better off ignoring Stewwie's advice and should have looked North.
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Post by lympstonegas on Oct 26, 2018 12:02:45 GMT
Ellis back to us on loan for Christmas? Not a chance in my book. Players are loaned out to improve and gain confidence. Don't think he would gain anything from coming back to us. Needs stretching so a top L1 side perhaps ? |
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