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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 22, 2018 6:58:55 GMT
Not because of the team or managers performance, but those idiots shouting and booing at the team at full time. absolute disgusting language and behavior by so called supporters.
We need to get behind this team and encourage them, not question their family heritage or ask them to have sex and travel
Disgusting, just like our friends south of the river
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Post by inzider on Nov 22, 2018 8:03:54 GMT
Totally agree.
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Post by landersgas on Nov 22, 2018 8:18:52 GMT
Not because of the team or managers performance, but those idiots shouting and booing at the team at full time. absolute disgusting language and behavior by so called supporters. We need to get behind this team and encourage them, not question their family heritage or ask them to have sex and travel Disgusting, just like our friends south of the river Totally agree with OP, I was there last night, we'd booked an executive box for the first time so the result took the shine off that, whilst the result was bloody awfull, the players were clearly putting in the effort and we played the better football, first half in particular we should have been well up from the balance of play. As someone who stood thick and thin with the club through the tough Twerton years, I was surprised and ashamed last night to hear the vitriol and chants at the end of the match. This is hardly going to motivate players, and unfortunately it really is just like the 82ers, in past years getting behind the team through thick and thin was what made us different to the Teds, and helped us get through the tough times. Not so sure now. Shameful.
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Post by completewingback on Nov 22, 2018 8:27:24 GMT
And people wonder why so many players won't sign for us. This fanbase can turn against you any second, and the club is in shambles with no leadership. Not even Browner escaped a few choice words after his decision to leave, despite his immense credit. You could give us a Championship budget and we'd still sign Payne again and again.
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Post by costahotshot on Nov 22, 2018 8:34:14 GMT
Agree 100%, result a disaster but it wasn’t the worst performance and fans behaving like that makes me angry and very sad. UTG
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Post by simonj on Nov 22, 2018 8:37:33 GMT
And people wonder why so many players won't sign for us. This fanbase can turn against you any second, and the club is in shambles with no leadership. Not even Browner escaped a few choice words after his decision to leave, despite his immense credit. You could give us a Championship budget and we'd still sign Payne again and again. Don't think Payne was top of the list.
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Post by completewingback on Nov 22, 2018 8:40:58 GMT
And people wonder why so many players won't sign for us. This fanbase can turn against you any second, and the club is in shambles with no leadership. Not even Browner escaped a few choice words after his decision to leave, despite his immense credit. You could give us a Championship budget and we'd still sign Payne again and again. Don't think Payne was top of the list. Which is exactly my point.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 8:43:30 GMT
Totally agree with OP. The result was a very poor one but I didn't see a lack of commitment or effort for the cause. I actually thought we played pretty well until the first goal went in when indecision crept in.
The reaction and behaviour of some so called supporters was simply embarrassing.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Nov 22, 2018 8:45:26 GMT
And people wonder why so many players won't sign for us. This fanbase can turn against you any second and the club is in shambles with no leadership. Not even Browner escaped a few choice words after his decision to leave, despite his immense credit. You could give us a Championship budged and we'd still sign Payne again and again. Nonsense. Players don’t sign for us because of our fan base, if they don’t sign for us it’s because either we can’t pay them what they want or they think they can get a better club. Perhaps a club that doesn’t have shambolic facilities, no leadership or direction and no hope of progression. Our fan base is one of the great things that this club has going for it, and I think it’s a far more tolerant fan base than most. Our fan base has never seen meaningful success and has generally had to put up with poor football and even poorer facilities and seen most of our erstwhile rivals such as Cardiff, Swansea, Reading and even Brentford and Bournemouth go watering past us. if it wasn’t for our fan base we have been dead long ago! if we want to get angry at the current state of the club let’s at least direct that anger to where it’s deserved and that isn’t at each other but at the people at the very top. The buck stops and rests completely with them.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 22, 2018 8:49:39 GMT
And people wonder why so many players won't sign for us. This fanbase can turn against you any second, and the club is in shambles with no leadership. Not even Browner escaped a few choice words after his decision to leave, despite his immense credit. You could give us a Championship budget and we'd still sign Payne again and again. Don't agree. We've been sh** for nearly a year. Everyone has a tipping point. I think we've been pretty patient.
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Post by completewingback on Nov 22, 2018 9:01:27 GMT
And people wonder why so many players won't sign for us. This fanbase can turn against you any second, and the club is in shambles with no leadership. Not even Browner escaped a few choice words after his decision to leave, despite his immense credit. You could give us a Championship budget and we'd still sign Payne again and again. Don't agree. We've been sh** for nearly a year. Everyone has a tipping point. I think we've been pretty patient. I don't think it's a matter of being extremely patient or anything. I acknowledge that the state of the club is a toll on everyone involved with BRFC, between us and the players and DC. What I do think, however, is that a considerable sample, in this fanbase here, are extremely trigger-happy, very thin with their patience, and they're very vocal. This is not new, I still remember the first few months in the Conference and I don't even want to think how we'd be faring if these fans had their way back then. I also remembered Browner as an example, but there's other players and managers who have been underappreciated or worse by the fans. Not to mention the ardent hatred for Taylor just because he went to the other side. It's like he murdered someone. Not too long ago we had a case of racial abuse from a fan (and the club's response was top, but still). People don't have to clap and smile after seeing our recent performances, but to some of them you ask simple things like "who would you bring in DC's stead?" and they don't even know. And where are the boos and moans for the board? I see way more of that in here than out there. It's always players and managers first for some reason. I can go on and on, but what I'm saying is our fanbase is big - this can be just as good as it can be bad, and when it's bad, it usually stinks.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 22, 2018 10:16:36 GMT
None of us mind losing as long as we go down fighting and not with a whimper. A lack of effort and commitment to the cause won't win any fans over.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 22, 2018 10:23:59 GMT
None of us mind losing as long as we go down fighting and not with a whimper. A lack of effort and commitment to the cause won't win any fans over.or shouting abuse to players at full time won't win any players over either
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Post by GasLass on Nov 22, 2018 10:28:19 GMT
I don't believe putting people down will help them improve at all but at the same time, you can understand why there was a negative reaction.. we're applauding them at the end of every match even when they've played absolutely sh*te, but still, I'd personally never boo or cuss my team at the Mem, I can discuss their flaws as a team 100%, but I'd never shout and cuss them.. people are frustrated its understandable, I don't condone it but I understand it, just a shame it happens, we're better than that
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Post by titchthephot on Nov 22, 2018 10:33:39 GMT
We played some really good, entertaining football for the first 30 mins last night. The problem is all about confidence. When we didn't score in those 30 minutes you could see the team start to lose focus and maybe stopped believing in themselves.As DC said in his interview there are highs and lows in football. We are in a low at the moment. We have some truly skilful players who are not quite in sync with game. Whether it is bad luck or 'just not our time at the moment. I don't know. EVERY team goes through that phase at some point. If we get rid of DC we will only go in one direction...down. We may go down with him as our manager but I trust him to do his utmost to keep us in this league or if we do go down then he is the man to turn it around. As for certain players not really fitting in to our team , well, there is nothing we can do until the January transfer market and even then there may not be anyone suitable. I personally don't think Payne suits our style of play but it is up to him to work hard to make it happen. He suited Shrewsbury when he was there but not all jigsaw pieces fit all jigsaws!! I will be at the Mem next Tuesday, cheering them on (yes, having a moan if it still isn't as good as it should be) but at the end of the day I am a Gashead through and through. They are my team and they will always be my team. That adage 'If you can't support them when they lose then don't bother when they win!' is so true at the moment. By the way, spot on original post. BZ
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 22, 2018 10:36:38 GMT
I think the boos were justified. Fans have a right to voice their opinions. I also think people have a right to sing you're not fit to wear the shirt if they think players aren't putting their all in.
I doubt it will make the players play any better, but fans are entitled to do the above.
Where the line is crossed for me is swearing at players and getting nasty. By all means slag off their performance, but getting personal isn't on.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 22, 2018 10:37:13 GMT
I've never booed us. Ever.
Have done officials....on occasions.
Posted this on another thread, because the other lot seem to boo for a past time and not accept our mediocrity.....
On a half serious note, does anyone think if we were more vocal with not putting up with awful performances, we wouldn't be where we are now?
I really think our patience has been tried.
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 22, 2018 10:56:45 GMT
I think the boos were justified. Fans have a right to voice their opinions. I also think people have a right to sing you're not fit to wear the shirt if they think players aren't putting their all in. I doubt it will make the players play any better, but fans are entitled to do the above. Where the line is crossed for me is swearing at players and getting nasty. By all means slag off their performance, but getting personal isn't on. The booing was justified; we`d just lost to a non League side. The chanting was not justified. The players had put their all in, they just weren`t good enough. The OP is spot on.
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 22, 2018 11:12:47 GMT
We played some really good, entertaining football for the first 30 mins last night. The problem is all about confidence. When we didn't score in those 30 minutes you could see the team start to lose focus and maybe stopped believing in themselves. Agreed, but ( to me ) this was because Barnet lacked any belief in themselves for the first 25 minutes. They gave us all the time and space on the ball that we could possibly want, and we did everything we wanted except score. At that point, you could see Barnet`s mindset change. They were still on level terms, and they were in with a fighting chance. Instead of dropping off, they started to press us whenever we had the ball, the space that we were enjoying was gone, and it looked as if they had sneaked another couple of players onto the pitch. From that point on, it was hard to tell which was the non League side. If you don`t put the ball in the net when you`re on top, chances are it`ll come back to haunt you.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 22, 2018 11:35:17 GMT
We played some really good, entertaining football for the first 30 mins last night. The problem is all about confidence. When we didn't score in those 30 minutes you could see the team start to lose focus and maybe stopped believing in themselves. Agreed, but ( to me ) this was because Barnet lacked any belief in themselves for the first 25 minutes. They gave us all the time and space on the ball that we could possibly want, and we did everything we wanted except score. At that point, you could see Barnet`s mindset change. They were still on level terms, and they were in with a fighting chance. Instead of dropping off, they started to press us whenever we had the ball, the space that we were enjoying was gone, and it looked as if they had sneaked another couple of players onto the pitch. From that point on, it was hard to tell which was the non League side. If you don`t put the ball in the net when you`re on top, chances are it`ll come back to haunt you.
Also think when they changed their formation to 3-5-2 and pushed No 12 further forward and their number 8 (ball player) dropped back a bit, ment our poor midfield could not cope
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